Topic : Defining Your Authentic Self

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Have you read "Self Matters" or become familiar with the process of uncovering your authentic self from watching the show? Share your story here.

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June 4, 2008, 7:55 pm PDT

Hi, Jo, Welcome to the Authentic Self! : - )

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Hello all,

 

Since i'm pretty new on the message boards I'd like to introduce myself a little bit. I'm Jo, and I live in the Netherlands. I'm a 40 year old male. I've been wheelchair bound all my life. I recently found my authentic self, when I finally decided to follow my heart on getting a new job. All my life I've given the control of what I would do withy my life carreer wise, to institutions that 'knew best'.

 

Recently I started my own little practice as a registered stresscounsellor. The business is just developing so the financial part of it is not so good yet. But believe me, i'm loving every second of it!

 

Jo

Hi Jo,

 

I've been posting on this board for a few weeks now, and all of a sudden all these cool people decided to come back.  I'm still on Chapter 4 of Self Matters.  It's becoming a running joke.  Did you read Dr. Phil's Self Matters, and if so, how long did Chapter 4 take you?  LOL!  The issue is I love to write.  I'm writing down way too much detail, but I can't stop.  I actually enjoy the process Dr. Phil laid out for finding your authentic self.

 

Olivia

 
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June 5, 2008, 7:24 am PDT

That's what's so neat about SELF MATTERS

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You know what, I haven't thought about the next time yet. : - )
In this book, Dr. Phil discusses how we remain  in a  'reactive' state.  And continue to do so until we finally start to work thru the reasons we are so reactive.  Basically that means -- we continue to do as we do until we know better. 

It sounds simple; however, at first, it's not. It takes focusing on listening and then doing something different if you don't like the same rut you're in. That's why SELF MATTERS really comes in and saves the day.  It helps you to "learn to listen".
 
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June 5, 2008, 7:32 am PDT

I wouldn't run away ....

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Yes; This helps but I realize now that Tolle is saying what Dr.Phil and many other gurus have said and

wrote books about. Since i have been studying and on the journey of life I take what I need from various sources and leave the rest. So I think that the pain body has been discussed in other venues also.

I seem to lean more towards Wayne Dyer. He seems to go back many years ago and what he said many years ago holds true to this day. What he says has also been said by others.

But on some occasions when I am at someone's house sometimes my body gets so scared and I want to run out. It feels like its not safe there and that is a reminder of my pain body from the past. It makes sense now and from now on I will follow  my gut or instincts. There are reasons why we fear certain people and certain places. I realize that now.

Wow; Life is a journey isnt it?

Thanks again for your hard work on the board and to everyone else who spends time  helping here.

 

When I feel anxious or  a panic attack .. (1) I do Tolle's  ALLOW  BREATHE  ACKNOWLEDGE   then ask:  (2)  Am I in immediate danger? --  I'm experiencing fear so I need to address whether or not  it's a past event being triggered that is triggering the "fight/flight" emotions.

(2) if I'm not in immediate danger, then I continue to keep my eyes close and visualize those emotions as a cloud.  I see the colors and I keep doing the ALLOW  BREATHE  ACKNOWLEDGE ... 

(3) At this point I can begin to experience "memories" from my past or just the same emotion I created from childhood -- I open my arms and step up and into the cloud.  I continue to ask myself if I'm safe, if I'm in danger.

Many of my fears / emotions when this occur are from my childhood -- because I no longer want my childhood to control my adulthood, I then (4) I remind myself that I'm an adult now.  I'm able to take care of me.  I thank my body for the memories and (5) I step through the cloud and out into the UNKNOWN.

I've been doing this since 2005 when I realized that I just wasn't going to live the life I wanted because of so much fear of the WHAT IFs.   I then draw a picture of my visual and allow myself to remember what I was saying and feeling.  As I do so, I realize that I'm going to be okay.

I like Dyer too.  I find that if I stick to just one teacher, I get tunnel vision.  So by turning to other teachers, I'm able to build upon what I already know.  It's a way I find of challenging myself to expand my tight little bubble I live in.
 
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June 5, 2008, 7:37 am PDT

Olivia .... me too!

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Hi Jo,

 

I've been posting on this board for a few weeks now, and all of a sudden all these cool people decided to come back.  I'm still on Chapter 4 of Self Matters.  It's becoming a running joke.  Did you read Dr. Phil's Self Matters, and if so, how long did Chapter 4 take you?  LOL!  The issue is I love to write.  I'm writing down way too much detail, but I can't stop.  I actually enjoy the process Dr. Phil laid out for finding your authentic self.

 

Olivia

I spent a lot of time journaling my emotions and feelings .. I allowed myself to express them on paper because I realized that Self Matters was triggering so many thoughts.  I'm glad I did.  I realized I just needed to "select" one non-working area in my life and just focus on that .. but continue to write down everything.

I still do that ...  and take as long as it takes. When I finally sat down and read it, I was in a mental crisis in my life.  We all read and do this book the way we need to.  That you finally left Chapter 3 is awesome.  It really triggered my thinking and I had to keep reminding myself to just read the entire book from front to back and then come back and spend the time.  I get lost in thoughts and memories .. that's why it took me so long to finally to start living a healthy life style.  I kept forgetting what I was doing because of my thoughts. 
 
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June 5, 2008, 7:40 am PDT

Hi Jo

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Hi Jo,

 

I've been posting on this board for a few weeks now, and all of a sudden all these cool people decided to come back.  I'm still on Chapter 4 of Self Matters.  It's becoming a running joke.  Did you read Dr. Phil's Self Matters, and if so, how long did Chapter 4 take you?  LOL!  The issue is I love to write.  I'm writing down way too much detail, but I can't stop.  I actually enjoy the process Dr. Phil laid out for finding your authentic self.

 

Olivia

First, I'm sorry I didn't welcome you earlier .. your original post doesn't show up -- my account is so old and has undergone 2 "website" updates, that I think it has tunnel vision.

I'm so glad you stepped into the UNKNOWN and doing your heart's desire!  That's so awesome!!! 

I know that you've opened yourself up to receiving all the very good!

Have you ever read Self Matters? or any of Dr. Phil's other books?
 
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June 5, 2008, 12:48 pm PDT

a bit of morbidity...

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I was thinking about your post this morning as I climbed out of bed early to get dressed and drive my mother and father to the back doctor. My mother uses every second of every minute of every day- when she isnt sleeping- engaging in DRAMA and/or emotional blackmail. Im the only one who can drive them right, now or trust me I would NOT be doing it! My father is my mothers primary enabler. So, when she engages in passive controlling behaviors-just to inconvenience others- I intervene. However, my father has been conditioned by my mother to know, beyond a shadow of a doubt that if confronted in anyway my mother, 110 times out of 100 will resort to tears and any other manner of negative attention-seeking that comes into her head. Further, as punishment she will climb back into bed, once at home and loudly sob, scream, or just plain sulks, broods, engage in petulance, insisting that she is just too upset to get up out of bed for food or to do anything else for at least 24-76 hours. However, if she feels that the person hasnt been punished enough with her passive demand for bedside service then she will stretch the time out for a week beyond the time she was confronted. My father brings her food, nervously waits for her next whimper or moan, to run to see if he can cheer her up Hes in emotional distress throughout the whole DRAMA ordeal. I have said to him, ITS WHAT SHES ALWAYS DONE!!! But, my father is going to treat it like a brand new experience each and every time! When that act has seen more performances than all of the plays on and off Broadway, since New York was founded! So, thats WHY he doesnt want anyone upsetting my mother! My father has problems with Blood Pressure and when my mother finally climbs out of the bed and his blood pressure is TOO high she has a list of people she chooses to BLAME for this. His brother or ME. (Others have stopped coming around.)

Personally, I know the routine. I know the consequences for challenging the routine. I have repeatedly assured MY father that I will not participate with her in game playing, when Im helping him do 15 different things and my mother decides to interrupt by standing next to me with her arm hyper extended holding an object because she WILL NOT observe the tiniest courtesy of simply waiting to place whatever nor will she ask. She does this while standing BY the table and wants the item PLACED ON THE TABLE! Instead she will resort to huffing and puffing and finally say, Here! Take This! I am about to fall down! I cant hold this any more! I then say, Then, JUST PUT IT DOWN! OR shell just point to something expecting you to get up and fetch it for her without her ever uttering a word. Now, MY father is SO well trained that hell just break his neck, jumping up to get it!

Well, today was like every other day she was passively trying to block people from either entering or exiting the office with her HUGE rolling walker, for the 1,000,000 time! Its a favorite game of hers to have people WAIT and she WONT move the D*** thing until someone asks her personally to move it! So, today, I just moved it away from the small foyer. She just leered at me.

She will do the exercises requested of her perfectly right up until the time the one on one stops then she begins doing them inaccurately -even with my father and I both re-directing her- until someone else COMES BACK OVER to re-address that. In faux sweetness, she tells them how much she appreciates their help and when they again disappear she starts the, I can do this right routine. all over again! So, that even when my father and I are there reminding her about the appropriate movements she still wants others involved with her non-stop!

I ask her before we leave anywhere, if she needs to go to the bathroom before we go. Just as soon as we are back in the car, have her 75 lb walker folded and lifted back into the car, then she calmly says, I believe I will go to the bathroom after all! So, she gets another opportunity to do the anguished, Sarah Bernhardt walk back into the office. (Which, at home and without an audience, is a quick noise-free sprint.)

After packing her and her 75 lb walker back into the car, she then turns and says, with phoniness that few can imagine, You dont know how much I appreciate you. Well, yes I really DO. Shes been careful to show me that throughout my life! So, when we were stopped at a fast food place, at my fathers request, she actually asks me, Why do you hate me? Im Your mother, you know! After explaining to her that I didnt hate her but went on to identify the numerous behaviors, manipulations, etc that I literally despise about her, I then added that after using people for your own amusement and then telling them you appreciate them is like preparing a crap sandwich for someone and placing their favorite jam on it, I explained. What youre consistently missing is the fact that youre still offering up a Crap Sandwich!

My father called me after they returned home. He sounded distressed again saying, "Your mother has always had trouble with her nerves! You know that!" I responded with,

"Actually, she just has NERVE, Dad!"

 

Oh, well. Its progress, not perfection!

 

Brenda

One wonders if your mother has ever given a thought to what her life may be like if your father passes before she does? After all, he is the one that she has trained so well...

 

I wonder what crap sandwiches taste like when eaten all by yourself?

 

 
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June 5, 2008, 12:53 pm PDT

Life Law in action

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I have to apologize for my last post.

In re-reading it, I recognized that like it or not, I made an agreement to help my dad.

I knew that it was bad and many times it gets worse than just plain awful. However, this bizarre on-going DRAMA is NOT going away. I just have to find a way of reducing any unnecessary contact with my mother. Others besides my father's brother and my very sensative Aunt Betty have just detached from my mother because....well...for reasons that are now obvious. Even my very caring Aunt Betty has reduced her visits to 10 mins. and once a month, if that. I completely understand. The 'Every-Single-Second-DRAMA' is draining, exhausting. There are far better things in life than having that when it isn't absolutely necessary!

I am now following Aunt Betty's lead- to be present when needed and that's it!

 

Brenda

Brenda, you're relatives' behavior in avoiding your mother is "We Teach People How to Treat Us" in action.

Your mother eventually drives everyone away.

 
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June 5, 2008, 1:06 pm PDT

Hey all,

We don't have internet service set up at the new house yet, so I'm only able to check in on a sporadic basis. I've been busy unpacking, cleaning, and painting. All of these mundane solitary activities have given me much needed time for meditation.

A nice little vacation...

I'm glad to see Grub and Marsplasti back, along with some new voices.

Take care.

 
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June 5, 2008, 7:36 pm PDT

My hand hurts from journaling, and my daughter loves the Cartoon Channel

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I spent a lot of time journaling my emotions and feelings .. I allowed myself to express them on paper because I realized that Self Matters was triggering so many thoughts.  I'm glad I did.  I realized I just needed to "select" one non-working area in my life and just focus on that .. but continue to write down everything.

I still do that ...  and take as long as it takes. When I finally sat down and read it, I was in a mental crisis in my life.  We all read and do this book the way we need to.  That you finally left Chapter 3 is awesome.  It really triggered my thinking and I had to keep reminding myself to just read the entire book from front to back and then come back and spend the time.  I get lost in thoughts and memories .. that's why it took me so long to finally to start living a healthy life style.  I kept forgetting what I was doing because of my thoughts. 

Yep, my hands about ready to fall off.  (LOL)  But, I'm learning a lot about why I'm unique.  As humans we are all distinct; however, we share some similarities.  Pop culture is usually a given similarity.  Come on, we all know what happend to Britiny Spears. : - )

 

By the way, we got cable today!  I have been so deprived. LOL  My daughter is totally into the cartoon channel.  I give it a couple of days for the newness to ware off.  She still loves the zoo and pools more than anything else in the world.  

 

The weather has been so crazy around here lately.  We really need to be taking better care of our environment, because it's lashing back.  I just saw my first real electrical storm.  I thought it was something from a science fiction movie.  My neighbors and myself are soooo stupid.  We actually took chairs outside and watched the damn thing.  When a surge got close to one of the roofs all of us ran back inside with our chairs.  I was the only one to go back outside an hour later.  It was one of the scariest yet coolest things I've seen in a long time.  There was not wind, no rain, no thunder...only a bright sky lit up from bolts of energy.  It was lighter outside at 11:00 pm than it was inside my house with all the lights on.  You could feel the energy all around you.  My hair was standing on end.   

 
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June 5, 2008, 9:13 pm PDT

Some old statistics -

show that the sexually abused are often morbidly obese or neglected in their home-life.  Though I don't fit in this category as such.  I think that family-members may have & this created a tight-kit family against such things, even though it was never openly mentioned.  And again, this may be one of the reasons it happens in religious organisations.  People who fit in the neglected group seek a better way, but not all can achieve this.

 

That sometimes, it is an unrealistic goal to have.  And one has to see what is uncommon really very common in all areas of the community.  ie. There is pedaphiles in all parts of the community.  It's just that the tight-knit communities that would normally protect their young, sometimes couldn't.  ie. Aborigines.  And it was a slide downwards.

 

Cotton-woolling children is not a good idea as often pedaphiles aspire to do better, to have a better more stable life, and hopefully not follow past abuse but it happens.

 

I wonder if in the community, one should check the background of teachers etc., especially women, as abuse can be expressed in other ways, patterns children can learn.  Or, one should be teaching people not to teach their bad habits.

 

It is excellent that in Australia, they are taking away the changing schools system because then any problems will be more noticeable.  They also are rewarding more trained staff.  Again, this is excellent because more training = more ability to recognise & handle problems.

 

Australia should not be a fair maiden to be exploited, or an Aussie bull-dog (bronzed aussie) but a community that takes responsibility & acts on it.

 
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