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Have you read "Self Matters" or become familiar with the process of uncovering your authentic self from watching the show? Share your story here.

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July 29, 2005, 9:27 am PDT

HI TAEMANAI!

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About what I've written in the past, diving into it, I feel a bit embarrassed.  You'd think that a person like myself could know a better way of experiencing and expressing what all there is to living and loving life, there is so much out there, that as well as to make things better (but in a way, things, experiences and people that would bring a kind of happiness).

 

It is easy to say it is the journey but (I'm sure you all know) it isn't exactly the way we imagine it to be. To bring clarity to our own life and to sign-post our own (even group) mistakes.  Where is that band-aid when we needed it, when things end, and didn't reach the potential that we were hoping.

 

I hope this is a good start and renewal.

 

 

 

 

Glad to see you here again. It sounds like your life has undergone change. I hope this IS a good start, and renewal for you. Keep your chin up.
 
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July 29, 2005, 10:03 am PDT

You know what felt so good about that?

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It's strange how you can read someone else's life story and see connections to your's.  You wrote some words that sounded like my family. 

 

Seek the help of a professional therapist who is into Cognitive Therapy and better yet will help you work thru Self Matters.  It's a fabulous book that helps you to understand why do things or really not do things.  It helps to sort out your thinking and helps to reprogram you thoughts to a positive loving mindset. 

 

And while you do Self Matters, catch Dr. Phil's show because I've found that at least 2-3 shows a week I can catch something that I can relate to and use in my own life.

 

For me, I stepped back and off the roller coaster ride back on 4/03 when I first picked up SELF MATTERS and my motto was:  NO MORE GRIEVING.  I could only get thru the first 3 chapters. Then I found myself in a family death watch and caught Dr. Phil's WLC and by Feb. 04, I was reading SELF MATTERS from front to cover -- when 4/04 rolled around, I committed to 3 years of doing what was necessary to get back my life.  My motto was:  DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.  It's year 2 now and my motto is:  PRACTICE  PRACTICE  PRACTICE.  Next year in 2006, I will be well on my way to finally LIVING and not in the past any more.  I only acknowledge the NOW - I can't change the past and I don't want to spend anymore time or energy rehashing it. 


It's over and it's done with.  That's the gift I recevied when I read SELF MATTERS and committed to doing the workbook and the exercises. 

 

Give it a try and see how it helps you.

 NOT sanitizing it.  I thought about not putting that there.....  It is in the past, I am over the grief of what happened back then. I am so over it. I don't feel sorry for my relatives or get sucked back into their sick little games anymore. I moved halfway across the country with my husband and haven't been back in five years.

I have still felt for so long that if any (As some put it) "decent people" were to meet my other "family" or know what they were like, I would be so dog poo in their eyes. I always sanitize my family for decent people.  My mom is "eccentric", my dad is "retired" and decent, my little brother is "sweet and special" and my older brother is just a "character". I am so over what they are and what people think. My husband and I are what we are and we are family. I have felt so much fear over anyone meeting my family and seeing that I lied about their character, about my dad getting drunk and showing his true nature. 

It wasn't without good reason. There have been many "incidents" in the past that have made me steer friends or people I really liked away from them. I can laugh looking back. I stayed away from the house overnight once when I was a young ADULT, I can't remember if I was 19 or 21, but sometime around that time. I stayed with a young man who I was extremely fond of and who was fond of me. I was going to college the first time then and working, but staying with my mother for a few months. I let my mom know I was going to be at this young man's house and that I wasn't sure of when I would get home. I stayed overnight and he didn't have a phone hooked up yet. When I returned home in the morning it was to a screaming mother and my things thrown on the porch. In the middle of screaming, the phone rang. It was that certain young man. He asked how old I was. I was confused by his question and asked why.... Welll, (Didn't I say somewhere my mother was "eccentric"?) my mother had called his work, the place where he was manager and told his staff that she was going to have him arrested because he stayed overnight with a minor. The police were "on their way" in her words to them and he would do well to stay away from me. This young man who I had fostered a relationship with for almost a year made me show him my driver's license, because he was convinced he was with a promiscuous, underage girl, who had lied to him during the whole course of our relationship. Needless to say, darling mother got her wish and we weren't together long after that. This is funny, because if anyone who knows me reads this, they will probably know who I am. It's kinda hard to hide a mother like that! I so understood why he reacted the way he did. Most people aren't used to crazy people, and who wouldn't check up to make sure after someone said something like that. I always regretted letting his reaction drive a wedge in our relationship, but maybe it was for the better after all. Hey guy, if you're out there and you happen to read this, please laugh about it.

Well, now I am married and we have a good life away from insanity, and finally I am going to stop feeling bad about who they are! And not let it have any other effect on me.
 

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July 29, 2005, 12:06 pm PDT

Finding the balance

Hi!

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe some of you can help me??!!

 

 

 

 

 

My hole life has been about surviving....not life or death....but emotionally. Explaining the details is not what this is about or for that matter important. The things that I am struggling with right now are the anger and the self-pity.

 

 

 

 

 

I've read Dr. Phil's life strategies and that is one amazing book....helped me tremendously. It made my see the truth about a lot of things and gave me a kick in the right direction. But the anger and the self-pity!!!.....what pisses my off the most is that when I was in the middle of the chaos I was capable of working through the pain and the problems and then move on. On top of that I had endurance and perseverance. Now I feel like I have to learn everything all over again.

 

 

 

 

 

I feel like an athlete that was forced in to retirement and not allowed to train for 6 years then suddenly pulled out of retirement and tossed in to the game again, at the same time everyone (but that I mean myself) expects that I can perform and endure the same as I could when I was in shape.

 

 

 

 

 

The thing is that when I read Dr. Phil's book it open me up to the fact that I have an amazing future ahead of me. I never though that was possible I never thought I had a future. Now I am afraid of losing that and at the same time I can't get there fast enough.

 

 

 

 

 

I just want that incredible, amazing and happy place I see in future free from anger, hate, frustration and regret to be the present.

 

 

 

 

 

The one quality that I think I need to reach my goals is patience and that's the one thing I don't have.....at least not when it comes to myself and my abilities.

 

 

 

 

 

I feel like I'm running so fast that my legs and physique can't keep up and I get angry with my self for not being able to find that balance/middle ground where everything runs as a fine tuned machine. At the same time I feel like that if I doesn't find that balance I will lose the opportunity for reaching my goals. At first it scares me, then I get angry with my self and everybody else and then the self-pity kicks in.

 

 

 

 

 

How do I teach my self to be more patience??? And is that actually what I need to learn!!?? How do I get the balance I need in my life?? How do I learn to take things one-step at a time???

 

 

 

 

 

I'm at a point where I'm willing to try almost anything.....so if any of you have some advice I'm listening.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kristina (Denmark)

 

 

 
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July 29, 2005, 2:42 pm PDT

Here is an idea...

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Hi!

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe some of you can help me??!!

 

 

 

 

 

My hole life has been about surviving....not life or death....but emotionally. Explaining the details is not what this is about or for that matter important. The things that I am struggling with right now are the anger and the self-pity.

 

 

 

 

 

I've read Dr. Phil's life strategies and that is one amazing book....helped me tremendously. It made my see the truth about a lot of things and gave me a kick in the right direction. But the anger and the self-pity!!!.....what pisses my off the most is that when I was in the middle of the chaos I was capable of working through the pain and the problems and then move on. On top of that I had endurance and perseverance. Now I feel like I have to learn everything all over again.

 

 

 

 

 

I feel like an athlete that was forced in to retirement and not allowed to train for 6 years then suddenly pulled out of retirement and tossed in to the game again, at the same time everyone (but that I mean myself) expects that I can perform and endure the same as I could when I was in shape.

 

 

 

 

 

The thing is that when I read Dr. Phil's book it open me up to the fact that I have an amazing future ahead of me. I never though that was possible I never thought I had a future. Now I am afraid of losing that and at the same time I can't get there fast enough.

 

 

 

 

 

I just want that incredible, amazing and happy place I see in future free from anger, hate, frustration and regret to be the present.

 

 

 

 

 

The one quality that I think I need to reach my goals is patience and that's the one thing I don't have.....at least not when it comes to myself and my abilities.

 

 

 

 

 

I feel like I'm running so fast that my legs and physique can't keep up and I get angry with my self for not being able to find that balance/middle ground where everything runs as a fine tuned machine. At the same time I feel like that if I doesn't find that balance I will lose the opportunity for reaching my goals. At first it scares me, then I get angry with my self and everybody else and then the self-pity kicks in.

 

 

 

 

 

How do I teach my self to be more patience??? And is that actually what I need to learn!!?? How do I get the balance I need in my life?? How do I learn to take things one-step at a time???

 

 

 

 

 

I'm at a point where I'm willing to try almost anything.....so if any of you have some advice I'm listening.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kristina (Denmark)

 

 

I do understand completely when speak about knowing that you have a good life ahead of you, but you have to wade through a bunch of muck to get there.

 

I've been where you are.  In looking back, BOY, have I had some muck to walk through!

 

When bad things happen and you get hurt physically or emotional, maybe it would help to remember that you need to grieve.  And anger is part of the grieving process.  Anger all by itself is not necessarily a bad thing, you know.  All it is is an emotion, that by itself, can't REALLY harm anyone.  IT's what you DO with your anger that is important.  Anger can be a GREAT motivator and a wonderful red flag that something is still wrong within. 

 

The same goes for self-pity.

 

The best way through grief is the FEEL ALL your feelings including the uncomfortable ones.

 

Just because most of us think of anger and self-pity as bad things doesn't mean they are.  They are normal, NATURAL, HUMAN feelings.  Trouble is... when you get STUCK in a particular feeling.  THAT'S when you really need help.  Personally as long YOU think you are moving forward -- you will work through your issues.

 

Besides, I think you've hit the nail on the head your own self when you've looked at your situation and noticed -- hey, wait a minute, I need to step back, take a deep breath and practice patience.  I will get where I'm going in good time.

 

Actually none of what I just wrote was the "idea" I was talking about... sometimes my fingers take me in different directions.

 

My idea was... to gently remind your self, that while it's great to have goals and work hard to achieve them, don't forget that your ENTIRE LIFE is a wonderful journey.  Sometimes it's good to look backward, sometimes it's good to look forward, but it is also good to just BE.

 

What's the rush anyway?  It's not like your goals are really going to run away from you, are they?

 

Can you sit a minute and enjoy a cool breeze whisper through the trees?  Can you let the sun warm your shoulders?

 

It's kind of like not rushing around like mad to get the answer to all the questions in life, but to sit a while WITH a question and let the answers come to you.

 

Anyway... just an idea... Q

 

 
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July 29, 2005, 3:37 pm PDT

For me, I journal

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Thanks, I do respond badly. I have these moments that come on when I'm not paying attention. I internalize it in times of stress. I have been working on handling it, but obviously haven't gotten too far.  I really need to get the whole relaxation thing under control. I guess my personality doesn't fit well with releasing stress. I am always thinking about "fixing" things. I feel more secure when everything is wrapped up in a tight little bow. The problem is, things don't get wrapped up that easily, and they tend to unravel. I have to work on that alot more. Learning to recognize when I am getting overwhelmed would be great too. Gaddds, I became so used to just putting on a smile, pretending everything was just dandy, and takling everyone else's problems when the world was in Chaos, that it's hard to break that habit. It's really self-destructive, and I end up being worn out to no end, and being way worse off then if I had just stuck my head out the window and screamed one good time.  It's amazing that once I can recognize it and my response and part in it, the whole world opens up again, and in spite of any one elses reactions to me, life is just beautiful and they don't seem to matter so much anymore. I have to give myself a little credit. I used to sit in a corner and cry.

Thanks again,

Kim

I journal and from my journaling, I was able to see the thought patterns and when I did goal work because I committed to the WLC, I realized that my goals were my thought patterns.  My journaling allowed me to write everything out.  I've even drawn pictures of my feelings and my visuals.

 

I lived a 24/7 stress lifestyle. The funny thing was, I joined this support group last January and I was the only one in the room that actually thought my life style was the norm.  When I listened to their days, I realized that I wasn't right in my thinking.  I turned to Self Matters because I really truly needed to stop my THINKING.

 

Now, I realized that I was thinking all the time. I was writing all sorts of fairy tales about what was going on in my head, I couldn't stop thinking.  I had to teach myself to replace the THINKING with planning exercises instead.

 

I returned to the support group last January (I think it was then) and by me doing Self Matters, I had surpassed them in doing the WLC - well mentally anyway.  Now, I can read the Weight Loss Solution and have no other thoughts pop us except for my weight thoughts.  Isn't that cool!

 

Problem is I have no more excuses and I really miss not having them!  But that's because they have been with me for so long.  I know that in another week or so, I won't be missing them at all and that I've forgotten that I was grieving their lost.  Now, woman, that is pathetic - but it's how I'm doing this healing.  I throw myself a pity party and do play the WHAT IF game. 

 
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July 29, 2005, 3:47 pm PDT

Hmmm.... celebrate your arrival!

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Hi!

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe some of you can help me??!!

 

 

 

 

 

My hole life has been about surviving....not life or death....but emotionally. Explaining the details is not what this is about or for that matter important. The things that I am struggling with right now are the anger and the self-pity.

 

 

 

 

 

I've read Dr. Phil's life strategies and that is one amazing book....helped me tremendously. It made my see the truth about a lot of things and gave me a kick in the right direction. But the anger and the self-pity!!!.....what pisses my off the most is that when I was in the middle of the chaos I was capable of working through the pain and the problems and then move on. On top of that I had endurance and perseverance. Now I feel like I have to learn everything all over again.

 

 

 

 

 

I feel like an athlete that was forced in to retirement and not allowed to train for 6 years then suddenly pulled out of retirement and tossed in to the game again, at the same time everyone (but that I mean myself) expects that I can perform and endure the same as I could when I was in shape.

 

 

 

 

 

The thing is that when I read Dr. Phil's book it open me up to the fact that I have an amazing future ahead of me. I never though that was possible I never thought I had a future. Now I am afraid of losing that and at the same time I can't get there fast enough.

 

 

 

 

 

I just want that incredible, amazing and happy place I see in future free from anger, hate, frustration and regret to be the present.

 

 

 

 

 

The one quality that I think I need to reach my goals is patience and that's the one thing I don't have.....at least not when it comes to myself and my abilities.

 

 

 

 

 

I feel like I'm running so fast that my legs and physique can't keep up and I get angry with my self for not being able to find that balance/middle ground where everything runs as a fine tuned machine. At the same time I feel like that if I doesn't find that balance I will lose the opportunity for reaching my goals. At first it scares me, then I get angry with my self and everybody else and then the self-pity kicks in.

 

 

 

 

 

How do I teach my self to be more patience??? And is that actually what I need to learn!!?? How do I get the balance I need in my life?? How do I learn to take things one-step at a time???

 

 

 

 

 

I'm at a point where I'm willing to try almost anything.....so if any of you have some advice I'm listening.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kristina (Denmark)

 

 

Kristina, our normal reaction is to feel pity and sorry for ourselves - it's a sign grief.  Acknowledge it.  During my healing process, I discovered that I was actually upset and grieving because I was leaving behind the familiar horrible life style I was living in.  I didn't want to go forward.  I hated having the "AHA moments" that bought me closer to discovering my true self. 

 

But my motto I chose when I read SELF MATTERS was: DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT. If my pity party was my way of dealing with this - then I needed to celebrate so I looked at what I was being shown and thanked God first for showing me the answers to my prayers.  Then I did my candle ritual and turned over the negative feelings to God.  Then I chose to look at doing something positive as a treat for obtaining the answer.

 

I know it sounds corny - but Dr. Phil is right when he says that our painfilled lives are addictive and that we would rather be unhappy and miserable than celebrate the insight as something positive. 

 

It worked for me. 

 

As for patience....  I wish they would bottle something because that's something I keep bumping my head against the wall with.  I just tell myself "I'M TAKING TINY LITTLE WEE STEPS" and I repeat it over and over again.  I also took words from his book about it.  I think it was in LL #3 - I retyped it and printed it for me to read when I felt overwhelmed.  The words are:

 

Each day of progress I make, each action I take, has a positive effect.

 

 

As I move into change, I am going to be doing things I have never done before. I am entering into UNKNOWN TERRITORY . I am not going to like it. It’s human nature to judge & resist.

 

 

And the longer I have been trap in a painful life style, the harder it is to create my new life.

 

 

Trust in my ability to do it. NEVER FORGET that a small & subtle change in what I do is moving me in the right direction.

 

 

I am succeeding because of my choices.  I can deal with my life at this moment – and that is all I will ever have to do.  If something goes awry, I will figure out how to make it right.  Nothing can take my identity away from me.

These words really helped me -- maybe they can help you.

 
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July 30, 2005, 4:45 am PDT

HI RITEHERE!

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Glad to see you here again. It sounds like your life has undergone change. I hope this IS a good start, and renewal for you. Keep your chin up.

Some skeletons, (hope) are being put to rest.  Change is imminent, writing a bit clearer, seeing  a friendlier responce overall.  Think I know things I didn't before.

 

Rest assured, I think about the good of optimism, of bright people.

 

Keep well, strong and healthy,

 

Taemanai

 
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July 30, 2005, 8:01 am PDT

Kim,

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 NOT sanitizing it.  I thought about not putting that there.....  It is in the past, I am over the grief of what happened back then. I am so over it. I don't feel sorry for my relatives or get sucked back into their sick little games anymore. I moved halfway across the country with my husband and haven't been back in five years.

I have still felt for so long that if any (As some put it) "decent people" were to meet my other "family" or know what they were like, I would be so dog poo in their eyes. I always sanitize my family for decent people.  My mom is "eccentric", my dad is "retired" and decent, my little brother is "sweet and special" and my older brother is just a "character". I am so over what they are and what people think. My husband and I are what we are and we are family. I have felt so much fear over anyone meeting my family and seeing that I lied about their character, about my dad getting drunk and showing his true nature. 

It wasn't without good reason. There have been many "incidents" in the past that have made me steer friends or people I really liked away from them. I can laugh looking back. I stayed away from the house overnight once when I was a young ADULT, I can't remember if I was 19 or 21, but sometime around that time. I stayed with a young man who I was extremely fond of and who was fond of me. I was going to college the first time then and working, but staying with my mother for a few months. I let my mom know I was going to be at this young man's house and that I wasn't sure of when I would get home. I stayed overnight and he didn't have a phone hooked up yet. When I returned home in the morning it was to a screaming mother and my things thrown on the porch. In the middle of screaming, the phone rang. It was that certain young man. He asked how old I was. I was confused by his question and asked why.... Welll, (Didn't I say somewhere my mother was "eccentric"?) my mother had called his work, the place where he was manager and told his staff that she was going to have him arrested because he stayed overnight with a minor. The police were "on their way" in her words to them and he would do well to stay away from me. This young man who I had fostered a relationship with for almost a year made me show him my driver's license, because he was convinced he was with a promiscuous, underage girl, who had lied to him during the whole course of our relationship. Needless to say, darling mother got her wish and we weren't together long after that. This is funny, because if anyone who knows me reads this, they will probably know who I am. It's kinda hard to hide a mother like that! I so understood why he reacted the way he did. Most people aren't used to crazy people, and who wouldn't check up to make sure after someone said something like that. I always regretted letting his reaction drive a wedge in our relationship, but maybe it was for the better after all. Hey guy, if you're out there and you happen to read this, please laugh about it.

Well, now I am married and we have a good life away from insanity, and finally I am going to stop feeling bad about who they are! And not let it have any other effect on me.
 It's a shame you didn't get to choose the family you were born into. In time you will be able to tell people right out that your family is dysfunctional, and that will stop any questions of why don't you visit, etc. Whether you choose to elaborate on the dysfunction will be up to you. I guess what I'm saying is that you will be completely free when you can openly admit to others what these people are. It casts no shadows on who YOU are. The good news is we all get to choose the people that surround us in adulthood. My very best to you on your jouney through the rest of your life.
 
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July 30, 2005, 8:05 am PDT

Where is Longstory?

 I think I remember LS saying something about a family reunion at the end of July? Does anybody know for sure?
 
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July 30, 2005, 8:59 am PDT

Thank you

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I know you're not looking for excuses, but I'm sorry, you COULDN"T have known your goat was hurt unless you had been through this before. Animals instinctively hide injury and illness. In the wild, any indication of ill health marked the animal as a target for predators. Your goat hid it from you because that's what they do. As (sometimes) intelligent beings, we feel guilty because we project human qualities on our pets and other animals. You will continue to feel bad for awhile, it's inevitable, but Mackay does not hold you in any kind of reproach for not seeing his pain. On the other hand, now that you have learned this lesson, I know that you will keep a sharper eye on the rest of the herd, so Mackay's death was not in vain, and served a purpose. I'm sorry for your loss.

Ritehere,

 

Thank you.  You put some things into perspective.  I suppose I never considered that Mackay would hide his injury instinctually.  That did give me some peace.

 

You will be happy to hear he is doing better.  The wound still shows obvious signs of infection, but he can limp around, he is eating again, and is interested in being pet and scratched.  He is also a quite affectionate goat and has been the perfect patient, so treating his has been simple, as he has allowed all of the surely painful things to be done in order to clean the wound, plus endured multiple injections of antibiotics. 

 

I still feel the guilt, yet it is lessening.  Understanding that I have learned from this eases that a lot.  I doubt I will ever repeat a mistake such as this.  Thanks again for all of your kindness!

Teri

 
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