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Have you read "Self Matters" or become familiar with the process of uncovering your authentic self from watching the show? Share your story here.

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July 30, 2005, 9:09 am PDT

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I have said a prayer for you.  You have and are doing all that you can for your beloved. And he knows it.  You feel guilty because you have 1001 things you should have done and didn't.   That is the past and you can not do anything to change it.  It wasn't done deliberately and dealing with guilt isn't going to help you with your beloved, Mackay. 

 

Give him your special attention and it means doing whatever you feel is the right thing. 

 

Know that you have learned from this sad time in your life.   You will never let it happen to Mackay again or to any of your other beloveds. 

 

I came home from a trip to find my beloved Victor (my cat) had an open sore.  He got hit by a car for the 2nd time.  I can't keep him in my home and I can't live with guilt because it's his choice to be an outside cat.  all I can do is pay the medical bill (for the 2nd time in 4 years) and pray that this time he's learned that when it comes between him and a car - he's going to lose.  The first, I felt so guilty but then I had to remember, they do not listen or behave in ways that we do.  In fact, an animal when hurt will hide it because in the wild, they would be left to die. 

 

Because you are doing your best and you are taking care of him with all that you can - know that Mackay understands.  He will survive because you give him strength and love daily. 

Marcia52,

 

Thank you for your kind words.  As I told Ritehere, you may be happy to know Mackay is doing better.  He is interested in the things around him and has even had the energy to be cranky with the baby goats...which is good in my book.

 

Ritehere had a good point, giving human attributes to an animal.  Mackay is a goat, which I have come to learn are quite spiritual beings in some ways...and they are loyal and want to please.  Mackay loves affection, and he is getting quite a lot, as well as good care, good medicine, and good food.  ( We cut fresh willow every day to help him manage pain.)  I have also discovered that I will go into places I would have never considered before because of this.  I have lost close to 10 pounds from loss of appetite cleaning this wound, yet I find I can handle this.  I have also learned that Mackay knows when something is helping him because, despite the obvious pain in puts him in, he stands still for me to clean him and give him shots.  So...even though he suffered, he and I have both learned from this a trusting of sorts.  I figure that is pretty cool. 

 

Thank you so much for your prayer and your understanding.

Teri

 
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July 30, 2005, 9:48 am PDT

Torn...

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 Please, whatever happens, when you read this, don't think me full of myself. I'm not. Although I do know the gift of my intelligence, I would sometimes love nothing better than to be an idiot.

I haven't read any of the books. Maybe someone could give me some good advice who has read them. I am an intelligent person. I have been labelled as "gifted" an "anomaly" "genius", etc. I have heard all my life how "lucky and different" I am. I am not sure of the idea of being different. I know that I am odd. I know that because I am mostly off the charts if I put any of me into it.

 I have a great difficulty in dealing with the social stigma associated with what I am. It isn't difficult when I am in social situations. It's not difficult not to respond when it's just a conversation. When I am in school and the purpose is learning and exploring knowledge, I stand out like a sore thumb. I am going back to school again. I love studying and learning. I love knowledge like it is water. I don't exactly fit into the classroom setting. I know I shouldn't care what others think, but I do. I am wounded when I hear groans after I announce a topic of study that may seem a bit over the heads of my fellow students. I am crushed to be the object of hostility from classmates who think I may have messed up their chance at getting an A off a curve, because I have one honestly. The honest joy that comes from learning is tempered by the fact that I don't seem to fit. I don't really wish to be a person who stands out, but melting in takes the joy out of study. I do feel that it inspires in some jealousy. I would rather be seen as a person on the same ground, just who is a little more inspired.  It is a little depressing to be outside the social circle. I have, in the past thrown my grade a bit. I never strive for a hundred percent. I really don't want a bad mark, but sometimes I just want to fit in more smoothly.

A couple of days ago, I ended up feeling very hurt and being more frank than I should have been. After one person said I was messing up the curve for the tenth time and asked the teacher how this was affecting their grades, I stood and said "Do you really think I am going to fall anywhere on your curve. My score will likely be discarded as an anomaly." Rather than making me fit in better, I am sure I just emphasized the differences between us and fostered more discord.

How can I honestly be what I am, and be part of what they are?

I'm a real person not a prodigy or savant or genius or whatever social label. I have a million hobbies. I love my dogs. I never remember where my keys are. I have to check the iron twice to make sure it's unplugged. If I lose my glasses, it's slapstick comedy (Think crawling around the house two inches from everything). I think sometimes people only see certain parts and forget I'm just like they are.

After reading your post and pondering for a bit, I found myself leaning two different ways as far as what I would suggest.  I am currently working on Self Matters, yet some of what you mention in your post takes me to some things I learned years ago in a 12 step program. 

 

I understand that you are not coming from a place of arrogance when you talk of your "gift" of intellect.  Most people I have met that are gifted in this area often have a difficult time interacting with people on a pleasant social level.  My son is gifted, and I see his tendency to isolate, thus I encourage him to be a kid, do normal teenage things and get into a little bit of trouble, as that is what builds the character that will enable him to interact with his peers. Of course, I also encourage him to use wisdom and be safe. 

 

What I have learned is not one person is "terminally unique".  We all have something in common somewhere, and it often is overlooked as we tend to focus on our differences.  If your grades are an issue to your fellow students, do something to help them pull up their grades.  If you know your area of interest is "above" their heads, bring it down a notch, or else look for peers who can identify.  Join Mensa or some other group that will put you in touch with those who can relate.  As far as grading on a curve, I have never liked it, yet there are students who depend on it.  I am a current 4.0 student myself, and I have to work for it.  It does come easy sometimes, yet I have to remain challenged, so I know I throw off any curve there is.  I ask my instructors to allow my grades to stand alone, not affect any curve they may use.  Most instructors are glad to do this, as well as ask me to tutor other students.  Use your differences to inspire others, rather than to be inspired.  Share some of the "real" things about you with others.  If you continue to see yourself on a different plane as your peers, you will be.  If you visualize you are all on equal ground, then you will begin to feel this way.  Everyone has gifts.  Yours is academic, intellectual.  Maybe celebrate someone else's gift in a social area, or athletic.  Celebrate all differences, as this is what makes it such an interesting world. 

 

I wish good things for you and peace with yourself.  I hope you will begin to feel comfortable in your own skin.  Good luck!

Teri

 
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July 30, 2005, 9:49 am PDT

Thanks EVERYBODY!!

For those of you who are in the process of doing Self Matters or Life Strategies or just changing your program - I want to say thank you.  When I first started posting to this site, I discovered that by delving in and talking with others about what was going on in their lives and mine; I was able to reach quite a few AHA moments. These moments then bought clarity to me.

 

Since May, I've been in a real funk.   Every month, I enter the same funk!  It's due to me doing goal work at the end of the month and reporting out to my support group the status of my goals on weight loss.  In May, I actually believed I was going to die because many of my 30+ year old goals/dreams were coming to a closure.  You can't believe how scary that felt!  I stepped back and figured out that I would celebrate every month at this time because I was close to fulfilling those long term goals -- I'm now at the PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE stage which means, they will become part of my life style and won't require all the work to process them being reached.

 

But the celebration doesn't last long - I couldn't name it... But you helped me to.  As I've written, I had this nagging thing about "regretting the lost of my old ways". Like what if I don't like obtaining my goals? "What if" games were playing consistently in my head.  So a couple of days ago, I picked up Life Strategies again because I thought, I really haven't read it awhile and maybe it will help me to figure out what ____ was going on with me.

 

Yesterday, I began to go thru the workbook and when I hit LL #1 this morning and began to answer the questions ... I discovered that what I was feeling was the tenacles of DEPRESSION. Those tenacles are fear and anxiety based.  My depression started 21 years ago (1984) - it was a very slow process which lead me to lose a lot of my basic living skills like cooking, cleaning, and other basic life skills.  What has been happening is that the depression's last hold on me is finally slipping away. That as I practice my basic living skills, I will have conquered that which nearly took my life.

 

Thank you for helping me work this out -- because now I can name it and understand better how to deal with this.  My goal of becoming a home maker will soon be mastered - I have the tools in place and they will work!  They already have shown signs of it!  Now, I can allow myself to finally take the tiny little steps to reach my dream life style of living healthy (eating & exercising & challenging my negative self-talk 24/7).

 
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July 30, 2005, 10:00 am PDT

Wow...

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 I have issues with guilt as well. I share a similar type of event with you.

 A little over six years ago, I left my pekingese with my father so that I could go meet my now husband. I was going through a rough time in life and, after talking with my husband for some time about computer things and each other, I felt like it was time to meet and find out if he was too good to be true. I planned on either returning or returning to get my darling pekingese to take with me as soon as possible. I spoke with my father and he said he would take good care of him. My father is a man disposed to violence after drinking, and had not too long before left a sizeable( 12" or so) cut in my arm, not to mention choking and ultimately ended up at the other end of a 9mm I had bought (which I sold shortly thereafter, because I didn't want to end up pulling the trigger). He is not a nice man when he drinks, which is often. This I knew, but failed to adequately consider when I left that sweet, defenseless puppy there.

Needless to say, I went back a few weeks later, having realized my mistake in leaving him and being filled with terror at finding him poorly disposed, I went back to get my darling. I found him with a ulcer in one eye that had eaten to the retina. We took him for treatment, but he was permanently blinded in that eye and forever left disabled and not whole.

 The worst part, I have no idea what he endured while there. I can only imagine, and it makes me so full of sadness for his suffering because of my very poor judgement. I can never forgive my father for his injuries. He was defenseless. I am still riddled with guilt for my own part in his suffering.

The best part... my little darling, my husband and I are a very happy family. My husband helps me spoil him by giving him more attention than I possibly could have alone. The spoiled character gets the best of healthcare, the best of food, massages at least every other day, tummy rubs several times a day, playing always and laps snuggles whenever we sit. We carry him outside, down the stairs four to six times a day to potty, since he can't on his own. He has a full life and the vet is amazed at his health. He is still as healthy and happy as a puppy. I am forced to admit my husbands insight is correct. It happened, it's terrible it ever did. My little darling is still the happiest, spoiled, healthy and sweet doggy to ever walk the face of the earth. He's alright, so should I be.

He is now thirteen years old, and has recently lost the sight in his other eye. I assuage my own guilt by making sure that he is well taken care of. He is spoiled and I am happy that way. He has forgiven me, he never held it against me. Animals are great that way. He has never associated me with that pain. He associates me with salvation from it. We should take our cues from them. You didn't hurt him, the stick did. We do the best we can. They love us for it. Just treat him with the best you can and make him happy.


I want to thank you for sharing your story with me.  That must have been hard, realizing you left a loved one in danger.  I am glad you can spoil your doggie and love him the way you do! 

 

I gather from reading all of your posts that you have had many struggles in life.  Amazing how abuse can become the great equalizer, isn't it? 

 

You have much to offer people, and maybe by letting others see you as human, with the deep feelings you have, will help.  I can relate with not wanting to be a part of a society where hostility is ok and acceptable.  I know the best I can do is not be, and try to love everyone around me and be kind, be loving and be forgiving.  This is not always easy, yet it has been worth it! 

Thanks again for your kindness!

Teri

 
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July 30, 2005, 10:02 am PDT

Teri,

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Ritehere,

 

Thank you.  You put some things into perspective.  I suppose I never considered that Mackay would hide his injury instinctually.  That did give me some peace.

 

You will be happy to hear he is doing better.  The wound still shows obvious signs of infection, but he can limp around, he is eating again, and is interested in being pet and scratched.  He is also a quite affectionate goat and has been the perfect patient, so treating his has been simple, as he has allowed all of the surely painful things to be done in order to clean the wound, plus endured multiple injections of antibiotics. 

 

I still feel the guilt, yet it is lessening.  Understanding that I have learned from this eases that a lot.  I doubt I will ever repeat a mistake such as this.  Thanks again for all of your kindness!

Teri

 I guess I read your original post too quickly, I thought you had said Mackay passed away. So glad to hear he's still around! I'm glad I was able to help you. I lived on 2 different farms growing up, and have experience with animals. We do ourselves and them no favors by trying to project "human-isms" on them. Although sometimes pets can learn to communicate with us, their nature will usually come to the fore in a crisis. Knowing and understanding this helps us to be better caregivers.
 
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July 30, 2005, 10:54 am PDT

It's cool...lol

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 I guess I read your original post too quickly, I thought you had said Mackay passed away. So glad to hear he's still around! I'm glad I was able to help you. I lived on 2 different farms growing up, and have experience with animals. We do ourselves and them no favors by trying to project "human-isms" on them. Although sometimes pets can learn to communicate with us, their nature will usually come to the fore in a crisis. Knowing and understanding this helps us to be better caregivers.

Ritehere,

 

I understand how you may have read and thought Mackay had died.  I just got back from doing the morning cleaning and doctoring.  He is definitely doing better, and we got a lot of junk out of the wound.  It is a hole big enough for my thumb to go in, and there was a piece of the stick in it.  A lot came out this morning of the stick, which gave him obvious relief! 

 

I will try much harder to look at a goat communication point of view, and I do know now to do thorough exams after hikes.  Even under the goat, as this particular wound is in between his front legs on the chest....pretty hard to find unless you are looking there. 

 

Thanks again!

Teri

 
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July 30, 2005, 11:20 am PDT

Oh, Teri...

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After reading your post and pondering for a bit, I found myself leaning two different ways as far as what I would suggest.  I am currently working on Self Matters, yet some of what you mention in your post takes me to some things I learned years ago in a 12 step program. 

 

I understand that you are not coming from a place of arrogance when you talk of your "gift" of intellect.  Most people I have met that are gifted in this area often have a difficult time interacting with people on a pleasant social level.  My son is gifted, and I see his tendency to isolate, thus I encourage him to be a kid, do normal teenage things and get into a little bit of trouble, as that is what builds the character that will enable him to interact with his peers. Of course, I also encourage him to use wisdom and be safe. 

 

What I have learned is not one person is "terminally unique".  We all have something in common somewhere, and it often is overlooked as we tend to focus on our differences.  If your grades are an issue to your fellow students, do something to help them pull up their grades.  If you know your area of interest is "above" their heads, bring it down a notch, or else look for peers who can identify.  Join Mensa or some other group that will put you in touch with those who can relate.  As far as grading on a curve, I have never liked it, yet there are students who depend on it.  I am a current 4.0 student myself, and I have to work for it.  It does come easy sometimes, yet I have to remain challenged, so I know I throw off any curve there is.  I ask my instructors to allow my grades to stand alone, not affect any curve they may use.  Most instructors are glad to do this, as well as ask me to tutor other students.  Use your differences to inspire others, rather than to be inspired.  Share some of the "real" things about you with others.  If you continue to see yourself on a different plane as your peers, you will be.  If you visualize you are all on equal ground, then you will begin to feel this way.  Everyone has gifts.  Yours is academic, intellectual.  Maybe celebrate someone else's gift in a social area, or athletic.  Celebrate all differences, as this is what makes it such an interesting world. 

 

I wish good things for you and peace with yourself.  I hope you will begin to feel comfortable in your own skin.  Good luck!

Teri

I am often inspired by your posts. Thank you for the beautifully sensitive way you responded to this particular issue. I adore the ways in which you express your uniqueness.

 

It has been my experience of you, via this board, that you actually and actively are an astute observer, appreciating, whatever special 'gifts' others bring to this mix called humanity!!!!!

 

 

 

Thanks, Again!

 

 

Brenda

 

 

 

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July 31, 2005, 4:51 am PDT

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Hi!! again

Thank you for your input. Sometimes you just need some one else to tell you what you maybe already know deep insight.  And you are right, I have to embrace my emotions, stop looking at them as a weakness and try to be in the present, just try to be in the moment. It’s just hard.

As far back as I can remember I always had to ignore my own emotions and always had to keep track and be on the look out with everyone else’s feelings. I had the feeling that if I didn’t the people that I loved would stop loving me and then they wouldn’t have anything to do with me or if I messed up that would be the finale blow that would push them over the edge.

So you are right I have to remember that everything is new and that it’s a journey. I have to allow my self to feel the way I do. That’s the difference between then and now.

 

 

Kristina

 

 

 

 
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July 31, 2005, 8:17 am PDT

Ahhh

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I am often inspired by your posts. Thank you for the beautifully sensitive way you responded to this particular issue. I adore the ways in which you express your uniqueness.

 

It has been my experience of you, via this board, that you actually and actively are an astute observer, appreciating, whatever special 'gifts' others bring to this mix called humanity!!!!!

 

 

 

Thanks, Again!

 

 

Brenda

 

 

Brenda,

 

How does one thank you for a "thank you"?  It is true, I am learning to appreciate what makes people different from me, and to celebrate it. 

 

I was at a street dance last Saturday (not yesterday) in Hamilton, Montana.  It was a Blues festival where they have about 4-5 live bands come and play and it lasts from 4 in the afternoon to midnight.  You take a chair and water and kick back as long as you can until this amazing phenomenon happens....

 

People from all walks of life, all ages and all mental states start to dance.  Some are great dancers, some are WILD, and some are just grooving to the wonderful music.  Here, on a street, in a little town on the western edge of wilderness, people danced, and danced their hearts out!  I watched two teenage kids do the Lindy and do it well!  I saw two people who obviously had mental illness do some kind of dance I can't even begin to describe.  I saw people in their 80's dancing as well as small children dancing with their parents.  Families danced together and people danced alone.  We were all different, yet here, we were the same.  We were all moved by this blues...so we danced.

 

When I first picked up Self Matters and I did the exercise where I circled words, I realized there are many things I want to be, many words I wanted to describe me, yet I knew I had to be open to becoming those things.  I want to be observant, I want to be an active participant in this thing we call Life.  I want to look around and be able appreciate everyone for being a part of this world I call home. 

 

So Brenda, Thank You, for seeing this and recognizing my efforts.  It means I am growing as a person, so I truly appreciate your observation and smile warmly at you with gratitude.

Teri

 
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July 31, 2005, 10:44 am PDT

Retired, now. Hope I'm doin' it correctly!!!

It doesn’t seem real to me yet, but I am ‘Officially’ retired.

I had a very interesting week. People said things that genuinely surprised me, some were even shocking!

I was taken aback by the shear number of people who made a point of stopping by to say, ‘Good-Bye’.

So many people made comments about how “different things (were) going be, now…” (I though they would miss me just because I came to work regularly.) However, folks made statements about the “standard” I set, pointing out that regardless of how “crazy” things got that THEY felt I had consistently REFUSED to compromise fundamental principals! Others, described ME as their ‘LEADER’ and “Captain of the Ship”! I didn’t even know that they even knew or cared about my stance on anything!

There were hugs, endearing gestures. I couldn’t believe it.! (Many had fussed and fumed over every single decision I reached!)

Others were there laughing and re-counting stories about everything from my response to the ‘System’, to the eulogy I once wrote for a very ornate spider, I killed. (Well, someone had to do it! He had no family, locally!)

I almost got a swelled head! Then it occurred to me, ‘Hey, Girl! This is just a send-off. If you hadn’t been here to do this job someone else would have. Maybe even better than you did! Don’t loses your head! You just did a job, period.’

Now, it’s on to the next step…

 

Brenda J

 
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