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Created on : Friday, October 26, 2007, 02:52:19 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/30/07) When most women gaze in the mirror, they may bemoan a blemish here or a wrinkle there. Imagine staring at your reflection for over two hours and hating your face so much that you never leave the house. Dr. Phil’s guests say they are prisoners to body dysmorphic disorder (BDD), a preoccupation with a real or imagined physical defect. Diana, 28, has been suffering with BDD for over 13 years. She’s undergone over 50 permanent make-up procedures –- eye liner, lips and eyebrows –- and didn’t leave her home for two years because she thinks she looks like a monster. Her mother, Guadalupe, and her sister, Liz, say it’s painful to watch Diana deteriorate before their eyes. Find out the shocking event Diana believes caused her condition. Then, 17 year-old Cheyenne used to win beauty pageants, but now believes that she’s an ugly, overweight girl with thunder thighs. She takes several hours to get ready for school in the morning, and constantly picks at her arm hair and lips. Her mom, Bobette, wonders if she’s the cause of her daughter’s bad feelings. Does Cheyenne really have BDD, or is something else affecting her? Share your thoughts here.


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November 3, 2007, 9:40 am PDT

something else to consider

hi.  its cj.  again.  2 lovely women took courage to present themselves and this issue.  the brunett i especially feel sorry for.  i can relate in that i also was abused.

this requires, in my mind, special help.  u have to consider that.  it is an important aspect of  who the vicitim was and who they have become.  it explains and helps relieve the burden and ease the pain for healing.

i would suggest a good, well checked out Female therapist who knows about women and abuse.  also careful and patient self analysis.  please let me know how it goes.  she can email me if she wants.

thanks for the opportunity and for tuning in.  - cj

 
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November 3, 2007, 1:43 pm PDT

If you are ugly, then what am I?

Dear Dr. Phil,

 

  I've just finished watching your segment on body dysmorphia.  I had to respond to these beauitful women.

 

  I don't know anything about your disorder, but I send the angels to you to give you what you need to see your beauty when you look in the mirror.

 

 I do not have your disease, and I do not pretend that I can understand what you are suffering.

 

 But, I do have my own demons to face when I look in the mirror. Every day I look at a face disfigured by domestic abuse.  I've lost a large % of my left inner cheek, as well as about 1/3 of my left lip.  My jaws and teeth are affected by the large amount of stretching it took to close the gap created when a compassionate surgeon took over my case.  I laid in ICU for3 weeks, an LTAC for 8. I lost everything. I was unable to move or speak for over 6 weeks.

 

 There have been numerous procedures to corrert my disfigurement.  And every day when I look in the mirror to groom myself for the day; do you know what I think?

 

" My God you are beauitful today girl!"   Why just look at the way you hopped out of bed on your own 2 legs!  What a wonderful day!  I can walk!  I can talk!  I can think!  I'm ALIVE!!!!

 

When you lose your life, and then get it back, it changes you.  You suddenly understand just how fleating and totally unimportant appeareance is.  But if your soul shines, then your beauty can be seen by all. 

 

Love yourself ladies, God does.  And he doesn't make any mistakes.

 

Sending Light, Love and Bright Blessings,

Healer06

 

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November 3, 2007, 7:22 pm PDT

Life-time BDD sufferer

First of all, I would like to say that I am shocked and dismayed by some of the harsh criticisms with regards to Body Dysmorphic Disorder.  I have been dealing with it for most of my life (I am now 48) and I can assure you that my life has NOT been a pity party.

 

The last thing that BDD sufferers need is help in feeling bad about themselves -- believe me, we feel bad enough already.  And, to those that have dealt with "real" problems -- I lost my beloved mother to cancer on July 31st of this year and know all too well how it is to have someone deteriorate in front of you and there's not a thing you can do about it.  I have suffered other family traumas throughout the years and know very well what "real" problems are.

 

And, would you please stop with the "you're so vain" attitude about BDD sufferers standing in front of the mirror?  We are NOT trying to make ourselves beautiful -- we just want to look "normal".  When my disorder was totally out of control, I remember still being in front of the mirror at 4:00 in the afternoon trying to hide all my ugliness with make-up -- and I won't even go near the hair issue.  I now take 22 pills a day and see a psychiatrist once a month and have made considerable progress.  I still do not drive because I can't trust what I might see in the rear-view and side mirrors. 

 

It has also been known for BDD sufferers to attempt plastic surgery on themselves when they can't afford a real doctor to do it.  Many of us resort to self-mutilation to try to correct certain problems.  In order to function as well as I do, I psyche myself up to believe that I am an extra-terrestrial being and of course people are going to look at me -- I just have to show them how friendly "we" are.  Needless to say, this takes up a great deal of mental energy.  I've spent far too many beautiful days peering out of the windows and hearing people laughing and chatting and wanting so bad to be a part of all that.

 

So, please try to have some compassion and understanding about this very real issue.  It is already painfull enough.  Thank you.

 

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November 3, 2007, 9:06 pm PDT

Hipocrite

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The cure? Man says there isn't one. The reason my mood is frustrated is because we are in a "here's some drugs for your problem" world. As I Minister I can say Body Dysmorphia, bi-polar, Achoholism, and depression, are NOT diseases they are demon spirits. You get rid of the spirit and the problem goes away. End of story and PERIOD!!!
Who do you think you are?  I will have you know that alcoholism and depression are very real and are diseases.  I have had alcoholism in my family.  I am currently working on my masters in counseling and have taken a drug addiction class.  I think you need to live in the "real" world.  I believe in God too.  I have read some of these messages about this topic.  I see BDD as in the same catagory as anorexia.  The mind can play tricks and make the person believe that they are fat.  That is what their mind's eye sees.  I also tend to feel that some of these labels for these illnesses are way out there.  Gosh think about it a person can commit murder and get off by reason of insanity.  Sometimes I feel this is warranted, but soemtimes I don't think so. 
 
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November 4, 2007, 9:02 am PST

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I also am 29 and have excessive hair growth in areas I feel a woman should never have hair.  It makes me feel ugly, and very un-feminine.   I hate having more body hair than my husband! After going to the doctor a few years ago, and mustering up the courage to talk about it,  I was told that this can be a symptom of PCOS (Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome).  Please go to a doctor if you can, a  reproductive endocrinologist is even better.    Good luck to you!

I have been to the doctors and according to my blood test I am fine, and my ultrasonds and such are fine too.  I went for a consultation for laser hair removal, and the Doctor used an area on my cheek for an example.  It hurt, and was to expensive for me.  Right now I am shavng and well that isn't going so well.  I really am hating all this hair.  Thanks for the support!   

 

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November 6, 2007, 8:49 am PST

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I believe this is what I have.  I constantly pick at my face and express what ever I can from my pores. My mother used to do this to me when I was a child and I find I can not stop.  I sometimes feel like I am a prisoner to my mirror. I also have hair growing on my chin and tried to have it permanently removed years ago to no avail, thru electrolysis. What a waste of money.  But now I am obsessed with plucking it and looking for facial abnormalities.  I hate that I do this, but can't seem to stop.  I was once on antidepressants and felt better but since losing my health insurance I haven't been able to afford medications either. I like alone, and don't leave the house much, mostly because it is a concert effort just to pick up after myself and dress.  When I work it seems i only leave the house to earn money so that I can head home and close off the world.  I really don't think I like life anymore.  I am anxious to watch this program as Dr. Phil has helped so many people with his show.  I hope I take away some real insight as to why I do this.
I too do the same things as you. Now I'm in an ugly spiral that won't stop. I'm constantly picking at my skin and it calms me but I know in my head I'm doing more damage than good. I can't get treatment because I'm a married mother of three boys and only make $46,000 a year and that leaves NO money left over for treatment of any kind. I once was having some really abd marital problems and was in a really bad state of mind. I thought I had a skin problem on my leg and ended up picking 1/4 of an inch deep and across into my leg. It's so hard to face people. They think I'm strung out on meth because of the sores all over my body. I have to decide whether or not I can attend a school function on how I look (AND I'M THE CAUSE!!!!) or how bad it makes me feel just to have to go into the school if one of the kids get sick. I have over 400 scars on my body from this. Pointed tweezers and a mirror are my drug. I can't stop. I'm the ugliest crazy person I know and no one understands me. I don't have any hope left. I just wanted to tell you your not alone.
 
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November 6, 2007, 11:38 am PST

10/30 Body Dysmorphia

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The general population does not know what BDD is all about. People are saying, "what is Cheyenne's problem get over yourself ". It is not that simple. When Cheyenne is Diana's age maybe people will then take her serious. Does she need to threaten suicide before she will be heard? This disorder is not about being an "ugly" person. BDD is a mental illness that is similar to anorexia in that the person with BDD is obsessive , compulsive and delusional about their appearance. They suffer constantly, and it affects every aspect of their lives.

I just wanted to connect with another mother of someone with BDD.  My son who is 22 has tried 4 times to committ suicide and is sure that  he will be successful one of these times.  It is an increrdibly horrible place to be to have a child that is so completely miserable.  No one can truely understand this disorder unless they know someone personally.  My son is now completley agoraphobic at times, thus cannot work, and just got on disability, that took 2 years to get!!  He had no abuse of any kind during childhood as far as we know.  He was diagnosed after his first attempt at age 18. My goal now is to try and get him  into the OP clinic in LA, if we can possibly afford it.  His obsession is mostly about his nose (misshappen) and his head shape.  Also thinks his ears are huge.  In highschool he used to superglue them to his head and wear a cap.  He has been wearing the same cap for  7 years.  I could go on and on.  I wish your child well, I would love to hear from you.  skgrace@comcast.net
 
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November 6, 2007, 1:50 pm PST

BDD

This program aired here today. 11-6-07.  How does someone who is afraid to leave her house because of  BDD go on the Dr. Phil Show in front of millions of people?  And, how does someone who wants to die NOT commit suicide 4 times?
 
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November 6, 2007, 4:10 pm PST

BORRRING!

At first, I hadn't watched enough of the show to say anything intelligent. 

 

I thought that these poor people needed to get a life and go volunteer in service to mankind.  Go volunteer to help people with serious injuries, assist the elderly, DO SOMETHING FOR OTHERS.  I thought I had never seen such narcissistic people in my life!  Manipulative, self-obsessed emotional wrecks.  Me, me, me, boohoo, more me, I wish I had more than 24 hrs in a day to think about ME!

 

And then it happened.  I heard it and immediately understood that Diana had a serious problem.  THIS is something that yes, just as I though next....cognitive behavior therapy, years of counseling, etc.  I am glad Dr. Phil brought someone in who could help.  It also helped me to understand when it was revealed how many times she had seriously tried to kill herself.  My heart goes out to her.

 

At first, I thought Cheyenne needed to get a life outside of pageants.  We are a youth-obsessed country now and she is steeped in it.  This country of ours has strayed so far from our roots it is truly pathetic.  We used to be concerned with serious issues in this country like fighting the British, settling vast open territories, building a might y nation from sea to shining sea.  Now it is all about Hollywood and who is doing what to whom and are they on the A-List.

 

At times I wanted to shake Cheyenne.  Maybe Dr. Phil's statement and insinuation will take hold of her....he mentioned the word "narcissistic" and the look on her face was one of a slight blushing.  Perhaps it had already occurred to her that she is just so shallow.  Get a life, girl.  Quitcherwhining, for God's sake.  Go volunteer to hold crack babies in your local hospital.  Now THERE'S suffering.

 
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November 6, 2007, 4:56 pm PST

Is this a kissing-cousin to Narcissistic PD?

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First of all, I would like to say that I am shocked and dismayed by some of the harsh criticisms with regards to Body Dysmorphic Disorder.  I have been dealing with it for most of my life (I am now 48) and I can assure you that my life has NOT been a pity party.

 

The last thing that BDD sufferers need is help in feeling bad about themselves -- believe me, we feel bad enough already.  And, to those that have dealt with "real" problems -- I lost my beloved mother to cancer on July 31st of this year and know all too well how it is to have someone deteriorate in front of you and there's not a thing you can do about it.  I have suffered other family traumas throughout the years and know very well what "real" problems are.

 

And, would you please stop with the "you're so vain" attitude about BDD sufferers standing in front of the mirror?  We are NOT trying to make ourselves beautiful -- we just want to look "normal".  When my disorder was totally out of control, I remember still being in front of the mirror at 4:00 in the afternoon trying to hide all my ugliness with make-up -- and I won't even go near the hair issue.  I now take 22 pills a day and see a psychiatrist once a month and have made considerable progress.  I still do not drive because I can't trust what I might see in the rear-view and side mirrors. 

 

It has also been known for BDD sufferers to attempt plastic surgery on themselves when they can't afford a real doctor to do it.  Many of us resort to self-mutilation to try to correct certain problems.  In order to function as well as I do, I psyche myself up to believe that I am an extra-terrestrial being and of course people are going to look at me -- I just have to show them how friendly "we" are.  Needless to say, this takes up a great deal of mental energy.  I've spent far too many beautiful days peering out of the windows and hearing people laughing and chatting and wanting so bad to be a part of all that.

 

So, please try to have some compassion and understanding about this very real issue.  It is already painfull enough.  Thank you.

There are certain personality disorders.  They fall into the realm of mental illnesses.  Sometimes we make decisions in life that make us part of the problem, sometimes it is something that has happened to us.  Such as in Diana's being triggered by her rape or abuse.  Her families horrendous reaction to it.

 

Dr. Phl knocks "using labels" but then uses them.  Like with this.  Well, it is because people spend time observing this and after awhile PATTERNS EMERGE.  A label is put on it to make identification easier; to give it a NAME.  I know someone with NPD....narcissistic as hell.  (Satan was narcissistic BIG TIME, after all.)

 

It is a mental disorder.  I think brain chemistry plays a large part.

 

But YOU have to have compassion, too.  YOU need to look at how others see this.  Stand in THEIR shoes.  It isn't all about YOU!  It is easy to see where someone, including myself, might say, "Sheeesh, will all you self-absorbed people PLEEEASE go do something constructive with your lives, for cryin' out loud?!

 

Doesn't Dr. Phil also say, "CHOOSE THE BEHAVIOR, choose the consequences"???  Do you CHOOSE to stand in front of some mirror for nine hours or don't you?

 

I don't know; I'm asking.

 

Bottom line for me?  Jesus said, "Come unto Me, all ye who are heavy-laden and I will give you rest."  I believe Him.

 

 
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