Topic : 03/19 A Model's Dangerous Marriage

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Created on : Friday, October 26, 2007, 02:55:30 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/31/07) It was the picture–perfect wedding -- a model marrying the handsome man she says treated her like gold. But after a few years of marriage, Kevin and Heather are in a dangerous relationship. They constantly yell, scream and fight, and their home life has gotten so bad that Heather says Kevin has picked her up by the throat, thrown her to the ground, held her at knifepoint and even taught their 3-year-old daughter to call her the C-word. You won't believe where their daughter ends up during the chaos! Kevin says Heather is the one who gets in his face, and she needs to stop being so controlling. He claims he's a changed man, but should she trust his behavior now? The Dr. Phil show installed cameras in their home. Why does Dr. Phil say the footage caught on tape is frightening? And, their moms weigh in on the situation. Should Heather spend another night under the same roof as Kevin? Her uncle offers her a safe place to rest, but will she take him up on the offer, or return home with the man she says could kill her or her daughter? Join the discussion.


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November 4, 2007, 12:44 pm PST

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What is the mother a victim of? I see the mother as being an enabler. She only said that she wishes her daughter in law would get some help, but didn't say anything about what her son was doing until she was asked straight up.

My mistake.  I thought that the message was saying that the mother of the child was an enabler, not the mother of the jerk.  I definitely don't think that she's a victim.  I misread or misunderstood.  Heck no, his mother most certainly is not the victim here. 

 

I had a mother-in-law like her.  When I told her that her son choked me and left bruises on my neck, her response was "oh come on, he'd have to choke you awfully hard to do that".  Their are two victims in this family, the child and the wife.

 

 
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November 4, 2007, 4:29 pm PST

What makes you so hateful?

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JUST REMEMBER HEATHER PICKED HIM.  YOU PICKED YOUR'S.  DRAMA QUEENS.  END THE CYCLE WITH YOURSELF.  YOU COULD HAVE MOVED. YOU COULD HAVE LEFT IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO. THESE ARE JUST EXCUSES.  AGAIN, SOME WOMEN JUST LIKE THE DAILY DRAMA.  THEY DON'T WANT TO WORK.  THEY JUST WANT SOMEONE TO SUPPORT THEM.  AND YOU, WITH TWO MASTERS DEGREES (IF THAT IS TRUE), I AM REALLY UPSET THAT MY TAX MONEY IS GOING TO PROGRAMS TO SUPPORT YOU.  AND, NOW PROBABLY, HEATHER TOO.  JUST BECAUSE SHE CAN'T MAKE GOOD DECISIONS FOR HERSELF.  YOU ARE CAPABLE OF SUPPORTING YOURSELF AND YOUR CHILDREN IF  YOU HAVE TWO MASTERS DEGREES.  JUST MOVE OUT OF STATE, GET A JOB, LEAVE THE DRAMA BEHIND YOU.  BELIEVE ME, NO ONE WILL COME AFTER YOU, WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO?  YOU PROBABLY JUST DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP THE CHILD SUPPORT. IF YOU REALLY CARED ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN, YOU WOULD SIMPLY WALK AWAY. QUIT ASKING THE COUNTRY TO TAKE CARE OF YOU AND SOLVE YOUR PROBLEMS. SOLVE THEM YOURSELF!

What makes you so hateful? You could not possibly be a Christian and have created that response to a woman trying to deal with domestic violence.

 

This woman and Heather BOTH WORK!!! Neither said they want someone to support themselves.

 

Show mercy and you will receive mercy. When you finally need some mercy, you are going to be bankrupt from your lack of mercy to these two women.

 

People in or leaving a domestic violence situation do not need someone hateful spiting venom on them. What is your problem?

 

And once again the show said that Heather was a model so she probably won't need YOUR tax money.

 

Are you okay with YOUR tax payer money being used to clean up the mess that abusers like Kevin and this woman's husband leave behind?

 

Are you an abuser? You sound like you are berating on this woman who is doing the best she can.

 
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November 4, 2007, 4:44 pm PST

Enabling Mother

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I agree with you , that mother should have been appalled by the things her son has said and the way he acted towards his wife and daughter. Instead she said I hope my daughter in law gets help.... nothing about how he told his daughter to call her the C word , beating her during pregnancy etc.... that's just a sign he was pissed that she became pregnant....He is just an arrogant playboy who wants to use women for one thing!!!! Yet he claims he wants to see his daughter and his wife can have the house. I emailed in that Dr Phil was too easy on the mother.... the so called "father" and " so called " husband " was the worse excuse for a man I have ever seen. It is clear he is arrogant spoiled son by his mother in the audience. I believe he was likely one of those confirmed for life bachelors, and he fell into all this not wanting any of it..... he is pathetic... He will never show her any sympathy , even in the video where he is yelling at her saying she is the way she is because of all of those terrible things she went through as a child or teenager... WHAT A PATHETIC MAN TO HAVE MADE THSOE COMMENTS!! He made me sick to my stomach and I hope he rots in hell ... or in jail where he belongs... I pray that the mother of that child finds a decent man, and I believe she will.

The mother of Kevin was not surprised because she admitted she had been told by the wife of the abuse.

 

The man made it clear that he wanted to marry the model though. And she said that he treated her like gold UNTIL the first sonogram. Why didn't they look into why he changed then?

 

That means he could have married anyone and flips on anyone after the sonogram.

 

What self proclaimed Christian or non-Christian man assaults a woman the day of the sonogram?

 

As he listed those things, the woman just sat there with the baby. Where was she supposed to go? She already said he would not let her leave, took her keys, turned off the cameras, and went into no camera zones. Isn't is child abuse to watch your father intimidate and verbally abuse his wife. The "nagging" wife did not say a word to him during that whole thing. She held her scared child.

 
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November 4, 2007, 4:59 pm PST

For Karen

At the nursing home that I work at we had a nursing assistant that the residents all loved.  We had know idea that she lived a nightmare until the evening news one day.  They broadcast the horrifying news that she had been murdered in front of her 7 year old son.  She was kicked and beaten to death.  The 7 year old called 911 but it was too late.  She leaves behind 3 children ades 4, 7, and 11 years old. 

 

Her name is Karen.  If only someone could have reached her in time...

 
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November 5, 2007, 4:07 am PST

DOUBLE...DUH

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I believe any woman who will stay with a man who abuses her and then starts on the child as an infant is enjoying the victim status and doesn't want to leave.  I know there are people who can't leave an abusive relationship but he's ask her to leave many times.  She says she fears for the child, actions speak louder than words.  Do something to end the abuse.

 
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November 5, 2007, 4:24 am PST

NOT JUST MY TAX MONEY....EVERYONES! BOO HOO

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What makes you so hateful? You could not possibly be a Christian and have created that response to a woman trying to deal with domestic violence.

 

This woman and Heather BOTH WORK!!! Neither said they want someone to support themselves.

 

Show mercy and you will receive mercy. When you finally need some mercy, you are going to be bankrupt from your lack of mercy to these two women.

 

People in or leaving a domestic violence situation do not need someone hateful spiting venom on them. What is your problem?

 

And once again the show said that Heather was a model so she probably won't need YOUR tax money.

 

Are you okay with YOUR tax payer money being used to clean up the mess that abusers like Kevin and this woman's husband leave behind?

 

Are you an abuser? You sound like you are berating on this woman who is doing the best she can.

 

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November 5, 2007, 8:29 am PST

Fill 'Er Up!

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Thank you for all of the input, you made me cry. I am going to start a journal and start thinking one step ahead in how to make this peacful, i am just so tired of all of the fighting, i am just drained.
The second most important thing we do, as moms, is take care of our children. The FIRST is to take care of ourselves, so that we can! Good for you if you make yourself step back and rest! Take a deep breath. God knows right where you stand. Learn what there is to learn from this "class in life," and be prepared to evolve emotionally and spiritually. Don't fight "what is;" you'll waste all of your energy and effort on futility. Just put one foot in front of the other and know that He is right there in front of you if you call on Him. He will make sure you get where you are supposed to be, provided you are willing and follow.
 
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November 5, 2007, 9:03 am PST

Lighten UP!

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JUST REMEMBER HEATHER PICKED HIM.  YOU PICKED YOUR'S.  DRAMA QUEENS.  END THE CYCLE WITH YOURSELF.  YOU COULD HAVE MOVED. YOU COULD HAVE LEFT IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO. THESE ARE JUST EXCUSES.  AGAIN, SOME WOMEN JUST LIKE THE DAILY DRAMA.  THEY DON'T WANT TO WORK.  THEY JUST WANT SOMEONE TO SUPPORT THEM.  AND YOU, WITH TWO MASTERS DEGREES (IF THAT IS TRUE), I AM REALLY UPSET THAT MY TAX MONEY IS GOING TO PROGRAMS TO SUPPORT YOU.  AND, NOW PROBABLY, HEATHER TOO.  JUST BECAUSE SHE CAN'T MAKE GOOD DECISIONS FOR HERSELF.  YOU ARE CAPABLE OF SUPPORTING YOURSELF AND YOUR CHILDREN IF  YOU HAVE TWO MASTERS DEGREES.  JUST MOVE OUT OF STATE, GET A JOB, LEAVE THE DRAMA BEHIND YOU.  BELIEVE ME, NO ONE WILL COME AFTER YOU, WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO?  YOU PROBABLY JUST DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP THE CHILD SUPPORT. IF YOU REALLY CARED ABOUT YOUR CHILDREN, YOU WOULD SIMPLY WALK AWAY. QUIT ASKING THE COUNTRY TO TAKE CARE OF YOU AND SOLVE YOUR PROBLEMS. SOLVE THEM YOURSELF!

This person has written in to share one of her life stories with us in the hopes of broadening our views on the subject of domestic violence.  Most of us (I hope) don't understand why a woman doesn't just leave in these situations.  This writer was courageous enough to share her story with us- a group of strangers. 

 

You choose to call her names.  I don't think she asked the "country" for anything.  She stated that it cost her 60,000 bucks to pay for attorneys so I don't think she is after the "child support' as you accuse.  She did not mention going after child support at all.  Not that there is anything wrong with that.  She was only trying to divorce the creep. 

 

Perhaps you are a guy who is an abuser, or a woman whose son, brother, etc. was an abuser.  You seem to side with them.  Maybe your husband has to spend money on child support and it is upsetting to you.  I could go on...

 

Something has made you this bitter.  Maybe Dr. Phil can do a show about that.

 
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November 5, 2007, 1:41 pm PST

She is a professional victim

She will continue to be a victim long after this abuser is gone. If she doesn't find a new abuser she will make one.
 
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November 5, 2007, 6:36 pm PST

10/31 A Model's Dangerous Marriage

    kevin and Heather, SHAME on you both for your behaviour, you make me feel sick to my stomach at what you are doing to your poor little girl. Neither of you deserve to have her, until you both sort yourselves out.

 You are both as bad as each other  and I'm disgusted by what I saw.

 

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