Topic : 06/12 Teacher Sex Scandal, Part 1

First I get tired of Dr Phil always thinking a person is not emotional enough...its been some time, plus we've seen the emotional one's and find in the end they are completely guilty.

Second, I know of a young teacher that left her position after less than a year because of the action she was getting from the male students.  Approaching her outright with what they wanted to do with her.  She decided it was not worth the risk.  If things don't change soon, the young women teachers will not come into the middle school/high school level.  What a lose.

you should never have a student at your home  - I don't even think they should know where you live. 

And my daughter has never had a teacher drive her home for medication either, that's just weird. If she needed medication, I would go to the school or pick her up or have her dad do it.. etc., but to drive around with a teacher, I can't see that as normal.

This is very horrible.  She has almost lost her home, lost her job, and now because of all this all the effort she did to become a teacher.   Now the only thing else that could happen is the city come and take her children away. 

All upon lies told. 

I remember a story of children lieing about an old town lady being a witch.  From there many other women were burned and hanged.  All because of children's lies. 

How is this any differnt?  Sure they are not burning her or breaking her neck in a rope.  They are however making her lose her home, the respect of the town as a teacher, the realtionship with her husband, children and friends. 

The school was wrong is terminating her for a lie that was told. 

For ever lie that was told she has proof that she didn't do it.

When Dr. Phil asked her how come she was not upset or seemed upset I just about yelled at the screen.  After a certain amount of time Dr. Phil it just becomes unreal.  You finally just have to laugh.  She has cried many tears,  yelled many yells and probably washed, rinse repeated many times after that.  Now she is on stage and going through this in a huge public forum and if she starts to lose it there how can she think to get her point across. 

I was a bit shocked at that Dr. Phil.  I know you know what your doing and maybe you were trying to make a differnt point other then really pointing out she was not upset.  I just felt that she could really use your help right now and not the pointing finger.  I think she has had that enough!!

I don't know if you will read this (the teacher)  But I want you to know that you are in my heartfelt prayers and that I will pray they will finally come forward and tell the truth.  I'm sorry to say though that even by that time the damage has been done. 

May God Bless all of you (yes even the boys) and hopefully things can work out from there.

Debbie

I HAD FIVE BRHTERS AND RAISED THREE SONS AND I DID NOT BELIEVE A WORD OF WHAT THAT BOY SAID WHEN HE WAS SPEAKING.( OFF CAMERA)

AND  MY HUSBAND  JUST LAUGHED AT WHAT THE BOYWAS SAYING..

MY HUSBND THOUGHT THE SAME WAY I DID.  AT 14, IT WOULD HAVE ALL BEEN OVER WELL BEFORE HE EVER GOT TO DO ANY OF TH THINGS HE SIAD HE DID.

AND HIS REMARK BOUT BEING INEXPEREINCED AND TRING TO FGURE OUT WAHT SHE WANTED,  JUST REALLY REALY MADE ME LAUGH...I DID NOT THINK THE LITTLE HEAD ON ANY MAN REALLY CARES WHAT A WOMAN WANTS, LET ALONE THE LITTLE HEAD ON A 14 YEAROLD BOY!!!

AND LETS FACE IT AT 14 THATS ALL TE BOY WOULD BUT USING OT THINK WITH..

MAYBE 10 YEARS FROM NOW HE WOULD  WILL HAVE ENOGH SELF CONTOL  TO  BE ABLE TO CARE WHAT HIS PARTNER WANTS,  BUT NOT AT 14!

I was a bit surprised when Dr. Phil stated that he was surprised that the teacher did not show more emotion because she was falsely accused.  He thought she should be "mad".  I think that after all the initial embarrassment, then 2 criminal indictments, then a criminal case that ended in mistrial, then a civil case that exonerated her, not to mention the loss of her job and the inability to volunteer for her children's' classes, and now to add insult to injury, having to sue the School Board.....I truly feel that this woman is PAST MAD.  Sometimes in life when you are bombarded by numerous traumatic events, you go through cycles that take you from humiliation, to fear, to anger, to outrage, etc. etc.  I just think that at this time in the process this lady is answering questions like an attorney because she is now in a position to take the high road and just state the facts as she knows them which is exactly what an attorney would do.  I think she acted totally appropriately and look forward to the resolution of this matter on tomorrow's show.

Hi Dr. Phil,

     I found your assessment of the woman teacher who was accused but cleared of pedophile charges for sexual interaction with male students, to be frustrating.  You said that you were surprised that she was not more emotional about the issues while hearing a student swear he was sexually involved with her.  Coincidently, having been in probate court yesterday, responding to charges of manipulation, cohersion and fraud in regard to the care of my now deceased mother who had a moderate level of demencia, I have found that I am clearly expected to not show my emotional outrage at being lied about. 

      For the most part, I've not had been able to watch the young women teachers who've preyed on their students, but I find this one believable.  After 5 years, (2002) how can anyone respond with complete outrage and display their emotions without becoming crazed.  I thought her composure spoke to her resiliency, not her culpability.

Sue

Thank you, I always get annoyed when I hear that, as a professional he should KNOW that not everyone reacts the same way to any given situation, that's why some people are cut out to be trauma surgeons, firefighters,police officers, etc.  They can stay calm in a crisis, and detach themselves publically ( I don't know too many Doctors who come to a family hysterically sobbing when a loved one dies, they do it privatly ) as do many other  people.  I grew up being told to "Thicken my skin ", "Public displays of emotion are bad ", so I would probably come off the same way, besides there comes a time when there are no tears or anger left, and one has to try to overcome.

BTW, I am NOT SAYING at all that the above professionals are NOT human and DO NOT cry or get upset, they do, but think about it, if a Doctor came to you crying hysterically, or a firefighter stood watching you house burn crying, you would lose confidence in them, they are conditioned (not sure if that's a good word or not) , to put on a brave calm face in the face of crisis.

Apparently not everyone knows these boys because it is obvious that you do not.  I know each of these boys and their families.  My children went to school with them and I consider them to be truthful and trust-worthy.  Has anyone thought about the fact that she married her high school science teacher shortly after her own graduation?  It seems that a teacher/student relationship didn't bother her then.  Makes you think, doesn't it?

After reading quite a few of these messages, I was relieved to read this one.  Everything in this message is absolutely true!!  Teaching these kids now versus then, is completely different.  I feel sorry for the teachers of today.  The students are out of control and it all STARTS AT HOME!

I am a father of three great children.  Two graduated from college after surviving an inner city high  school in southern California.  The teachers there tried.  My third child is married and raising her children like we raised her.  If everyone did what we did with them, the world would be a better place.

Thank you for being a teacher and giving a darn.  We need more people like you.