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Topic : 06/12 Teacher Sex Scandal, Part 1

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Created on : Friday, October 26, 2007, 03:01:39 pm
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(Original Air Date: 11/01/07) Dr. Phil explores a disturbing trend: Female teachers engaging in sex acts with their underage male students. The number of accusations has doubled in the past five years. You've probably heard of famous cases like Mary Kay Letourneau, and Debra LaFave and the recent case of a teacher in Southern California, Meredith Johnson Vincent, who was arrested on suspicion of having a sexual relationship with a 14-year-old boy. Dr. Phil meets one teacher who has chosen to fight back. Joelle Ogletree was a respected high school French teacher until she was accused of sexual misconduct by three of her students. Find out what goes through a mother's head as she faces 160 years in prison. Plus, the Dr. Phil show speaks with one of the boys who says the sexual improprieties absolutely did happen and claims he passed a polygraph examination. When he agrees to take another test for Dr. Phil, what do his answers reveal? Joelle has been banned from even volunteering at her daughter's school because of the accusations. Should she be allowed back in the classroom? Watch and decide: Do you believe her ... or her students? Tell us what you think!

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November 2, 2007, 4:14 pm PDT

TEACHER SEX SCANDAL/DAY 2

I AM NOT SURE WHO I BELIEVE. THE TEACHER ACTED A LITTLE STRANGE A COUPLE TIMES, BUT SO DID THE BOYS!  IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT TIME FOR ALL INVOLVED AND I AM SURE THEY ALL WISH IT NEVER HAPPENED. THROUGH MOST OF THE SHOW I AM THINKING THE TEACHER LIED. TOWARDS THE END I WAS LEANING MORE TOWARDS THE BOYS LYING. I WILL HAVE TO READ MORE ON THE MATTER BEFORE I CAN MAKE A DECISION.
 
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November 2, 2007, 4:26 pm PDT

Only in a "Free" country

I'm just amazed at how many people believe the teacher is guilty because they "have a feeling" or "she just doesn't look like she's reacting the right way" or "her husband and her don't fit". The only thing that matters are facts not feelings. Having just seen the first 15 minutes of the follow up show with the boy recounting a 10 minute  period of time where the teacher was stimulating him, I really find it incredible that a 16 year old boy would not have climaxed and just stopped after 10 minutes.

 
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November 2, 2007, 4:57 pm PDT

teacher sex scandal

I think she is lying.
 
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November 2, 2007, 5:02 pm PDT

Children don't Lie???

 Just more proof why not to jump so quickly to condem accused sex offenders. Unfortunaly this is VERY OFTEN not the case. No other area of our justice system are citizens presumed guilty and have to prove their innocence. All it takes is someone's word and very little evidence, that often can be read a different way.  Untill this is properly addressed  resources are wasted and lives are ruined. The cost is enormous!
PLEASE DR PHIL EXPOSE MORE OF THIS!
 
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November 2, 2007, 5:06 pm PDT

Walk a Mile

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 MICHELLE212,

I DONT KNOW HOW OLD YOU ARE BUT YOU ARE SO WRONG. ANYWAY YOU LOOK AT THIS SITUATION IT IS CHILD SEX ABUSE. SURE THE 14 AND 15 YEAR OLDS ARE CURIOUS ABOUT SEX, ESPECIALLY NOW SINCE IT IS THROWN IN THEIR FACE EVERY TIME THEY TURN AROUND. THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, THAT IS WHY GOD GAVE THEM HANDS AND GIRLIE MAGS.  IT DOES NOT MATTER IF THEY WANT IT OR NOT, THEY SHOULD'NT BE HAVEING SEX AT THAT AGE. EVERYTIME I SEE A VERY YOUNG GIRL OR BOY EITHER ONE PUSHING A BABY STROLLER I WANT TO PUKE! THAT KID DOES'NT HAVE A CHANCE. A SELECT FEW WILL DO GOOD IN LIFE AND BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THAT CHILD AND A WIFE. MOST DO NOT. MY SON WAS ABUSED BY A BABY SITTER WHEN HE WAS TWO. HE DOES NOT REMEMBER IT THANK GOD!  THIS PERSON WAS A FRIEND OF THE FAMILY AND HAD BEEN FOR YEARS. I AM VERY OUTSPOKEN REGARDING SEX ABUSE OF A CHILD. IT SICKENS ME TO THINK SOMEONE WOULD THINK THIS SITUATION ON DR PHIL TODAY WAS AN OK THING TO HAPPEN. AND NO, I AM NOT A MOM THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN TRAUMATIZED AS NOT MUCH SURPRISES ME ANYMORE. I RAISED MY KIDS TO HAVE RESPECT FOR OTHERS AND THAT INCLUDES WOMEN! MY KIDS ALSO KNEW OTHER KIDS THAT THIS SAME OLDER WOMAN SEX ORDEAL HAPPENED TO AND THEY WERE AS SICKENED BY IT AS I WAS. MY KIDS WERE'NT ANGELS BUT I KNEW THEIR UPBRINGING WOULD TAKE HOLD AT SOME POINT AND IT DID! THANK GOD!  THE BOTTOM LINE LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IT IS STILL CHILD SEX ABUSE NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.

 Walk a mile in a man's shoes, then you can justly make that judgement. Second point, just because it happened to you does not mean it happened to everyone or that everyone ig guilty as presumed. ( No concrete evidence)
 
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November 2, 2007, 5:15 pm PDT

Polygraph

Did Joelle every take a polygraph??? I did not see yesterdays program and I just saw part of todays. 
 
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November 2, 2007, 5:26 pm PDT

11/01 Teacher Sex Scandal, Pt. 1

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She wasn't convicted of anything.  I had her as a teacher and she was a good teacher.  I would not mind having her teach my daughter.  She is innocent. Not everyone in Glen Rose believes that she did it.  And nobody knows what really happened.  Only she and those stupid boys know what happened.  You need to get your facts straight because you are claiming that they proved she did this...which is not the case!

Clearly this teacher is innocent.  Completely and totally.  The community of Glen Rose is the guilty party here.  Those boys will never step up and tell the truth.  If they do, they have perjured themselves and that carries a punishment of it's own.  They have to keep lying to stay out of trouble.

 

Glen Rose, how can you continue to perpetuate this injustice.  It's unforgivable.

 
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November 2, 2007, 5:55 pm PDT

It's Just Too Bad

It's just too bad that she wasn't careful enough around those young people.  And she had just had a baby.  She was just too trusting to take a child home for medicine.  she should have had her husband do it.  But they were out to make something up even in the classroom.  And now there is no way to get her job or good name back.  That is really sad.  Even though she was acquitted of doing anything.   Now her life is permanently messed up.

 
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November 2, 2007, 7:36 pm PDT

Being Indited does not make someone guilty!

What people fail to understand is that the GRAND JURY CAN INDITE A HAM SANDWICH! Being indited does not make someone guilty. They failed the lie detector tests! Perhaps there are some small town politics contributing to this mess.

 The problem w/ society is that everyone is so quick to jump to conclusions unless it happens to them (injustice) or someone in their family or circle of friends.

I think she is innocent and these boys fantasized themselves right into a position that they could not find their way out of. Unfortunately they are too young to fully comprehend what damage they have done to this woman. She obviously should have kept a more solid distance between her and the students, but being too trusting and friendly doesn't make her a criminal.

What comes around goes around....these boys will pay somewhere down the line for the grief they have caused her and her family.

I say to her....keep the faith as I believe the truth always wins out in the end.

 
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November 2, 2007, 7:41 pm PDT

teacher is clearly lying!!!!!

   why would a teacher be writing another student notes, in code no less, unless it had something to do with school work.i raised four children, none of thier teachers ever wrote them a note unless it was coming home to us, the parents! no teacher of my children ever called my house for one of my children to come to thier home for any reason.anything that ever took place after school was done by permission slips or something to do with sports.if a teacher is sending notes to your child or asking for them to come to thier home a red flag should go up immediately,without a doubt!!!!!  i think that any other teacher would tell you that the things she did was totally unprofessional and totally unappropriate.i don't think matt is lying,he has nothing to gain by this.i think she's guilty of the charges.

 

 

 
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