Topic : 06/12 Teacher Sex Scandal, Part 1

Think about it, if she were guilty of doing this, why would she be still fighting this battle and putting herself and her husband through this hell?  You would think she would be happy to get off with a mis-trial, not argue that she wanted to go through another trial.  

If a guilty person gets off on any type of technicality, they don't usually still fight to go through it again, because maybe this time they will be found guilty and go to prison!  She would be thrilled to get away with it and try to drop the topic ASAP, not putting herself up to more scrutiny by going on national TV.  How many murders who get off go on TV saying "I want another trial so they can find me guilty this time"?  It just doesn't make sense to me.  Yet, I seem to be the only one noticing this.

When you are not allowed to volunteer in you child's school, it goes into waters even deeper than the trial.  It is a long term quality of life issue, not only for Joelle, but her child, and her husband.  I cannot imagine what school for that child is like...it cannot be good.  My opinion is that the boys took a fantasy way too far,and didn't know how to get out of it.  There is the maturity or lack of it with that age....no foresight for the consequences.  The law suit, in their minds, was probably never a thought...too young to know about  cause and effect.....they will learn as this moves forward.

Joelle was very foolish in trying to be a friend to her students....it may work with some, and yes, it's a head trip to be the "cool" teacher...the one who the students favor.  But, it is like playing Russian Roulette...the gun will go off at some point, which is what I believe to be the case here.

The law suit will go where it goes, I hope it to be in her favor.  After that, my opinion, time to move.  She may be ALLOWED back in her child's school, but will never be WELCOMED.  A court can only hand down a decision....and no money is going to buy back her reputation.  The court can rule in her favor, yet she is going to lose in the court of public opinion.   If it were me, I'd fight for what I felt to be rightfully mine, then re-locate to a place where my family could have as normal a life as possible.  After all of this, they'll need it.

I have not read all of the posts, so sure hope this hasn't been posted, but, my question would be:

The boy mentioned a pink leopard bra,  has anyone looked to see if she owns one, or asked her husband?

Just  thought. I have only seen part 1, so I just don't know yet. Could be either one.

Some of the opinions stated here are about teachers molesting students, in general, not necessarily whether this teacher was guilty or not.

Dr. Phil stated that he was appalled that she was not more offended while watching the portrayals and testamonies of the first accuser. I disagree with him. She is beyond her initial reaction (hurt and in disbelief) and has gone into anger and defense mode. I would feel the same way she does at this point. So if she sounds like a lawyer who is making her points she is definitely in that stage.

It is very sad that this could be possible. That the school, although trying to look out for the students, moved so quickly and were so convinced these boys were telling the truth. It throws a whole new perspective on accusers and victims. If these boys are not telling the truth and it can be proven they need to have a severe punishment. They don't get to go around and ruin professionals' lives IF it is not true.

Most people would be against it but I say put cameras in the classrooms and have no teacher/student contact outside of the classroom. Period.

What a mess huh? I was refering more to the student's and what they could do than I was the teacher. I think teachers should not let students know where they live or drive around with them solo etc., because heck - give the kid a bad grade and you may be in real trouble. I just watched a court TV program where three male students went to their high school teacher's home and knocked. When he opened the door, they shot him a few times and killed him.

then their are the accusations about hitting  or those about sexual abuse. There is really not a whole lot of protection for the teachers when the kids want to "get them back"..... very sad state of affairs....

I have to make a comment to this entire subject in general. With the comment, I mention MY story and experience in this subject.

For about 3 years, I, myself was involved with one of my teachers. This, of course, was a HIGH SCHOOL teacher. There is a BIG difference,in my eyes, when it comes to a teacher being "involved" with a student in, let's say a middle school and a teacher being "involved" with let's say a high school aged student. I am sad to mention that the reality is a student in high school, especially a 16 to 18 yr old, is fully aware of the choices being made.

At the time I began a "relationship" with this man, I was of age and aware of my decision in getting involved with him. I was not a CHILD being persuaded by an ADULT to be sexually involved with him.That wasn't even part of the relationship until just about a year. I, MYSELF, made that decision and was fully aware of the consequences, we both were.

Alot of these "young boys" are being put in a victim "pedestal" as if they were taken advantage of. ( I am specifically speaking about the high school scandals) These teachers are being persecuted as criminals as if they RAPED these students, forced them to do something they didnt want to do. That makes me angry. You know what, I WAS raped, and there was a HUGE difference between that situation and MY decision to have a relationship with this man. It is my opinion and/but I speak in behalf of the student, not the parent, not the teacher, but the student. I KNOW WHAT IT IS TO REALLY BE IN THAT SITUATION AND KNOW THE REALITY. I AM NOT A VICTIM OF THIS MAN! I am not a victim because I was and am fully aware of the choice I made to continue in that relationship for 3 years even after  I did graduate. Until about 6 or 7n mth ago.

P.S. although I am not proud of the fact that he is married and DID make me fully aware of that from the beginning, I do not regret those 3 yrs, no matter how much hurt I felt, feel, now that it is over. I wouldn't take it back.