Topic : 06/13 Teacher Sex Scandal, Part 2

They're BOTH lying and the psychological standpoint of both parties involved prevents them from telling the whole truth and perhaps they might not even know the truth. I'm not exactly sure WHAT happend between the two of them, in fact, no one knows what happened, the only two in the world that know the truth are Ogletree and that kid but I think something DID happen. It was probably short and to the point... Joelle's past is rooted in what many would call a "controversial love story".

She was probably a shy girl in school, grew up in that area, fell in love with her teacher, and then married him. I'm willing to bet ANYTHING and EVERYTHIG that this kid DID NOT KNOW this until AFTER he had some type of sexual relationship with her or some type of intense interaction with her, maybe not sexual. Because he is similar to her, shy, grew up in the area, etc...etc... did ANYONE in here notice that he made a big deal out of Joelle marrying her teacher??? I can't be the only one in here that noticed this. (sorry, I haven't read the entire thread). He has an issue with someone that marries their teacher or someone that married someone older than they are. Its like he thinks its 'dirty' or posibly 'immoral' to marry your teacher. So he turns her in after they have some type of affair or he just makes it up.

If i'm not mistaken, this is the kid that had a strict religious upbrining, so moral beliefs are a part of his character. He didn't have any problems with the affair (or whatever happened) UNTIL he found out what she did. Then he felt like he MUST do something to stop an 'immoral' person. Very odd kid to say the least... I mean, to go through all that trouble just because you THINK its immoral to marry someone thats older than you are.  He probably even views her as like a "slut" of some sorts. In his MIND he can't quite understand why someone would do that, especially a woman. But more imporantly, he couldn't stand it that he touched a woman like that.

When I was in High School , back in the 50 s , a very attractive, caring, talented teacher was involved with one of her students. He felt he might be Homosexual and ,at that time, such a thing could actualy be dangerous in my small community.

In an effort to help him enjoy the company of women , she became intimate with him sexually.  He graduated but less than three years later he commited suicide , as he found himself gay (not a word at that time) and was unable to face it . While not much was discussed in matters pertaining to Sex in those times, many in the community secretly praised her for her efforts.

What if he had been befriended by a Male teacher , who may have been Gay , and led to accept his sexuality ?  Would that have been wrong  ? On another note , we had another Female teacher who slept with half the boys in my Senior class , but  (unfortunately)  was fired after her second year. She was barely several years older than her students . In those days you didn't mention the term Sex and if you attempted to buy condums at the local drug store , you were reported to your parents.  It would'nt surprise me if some of the parents in the town where that teacher taught , hadn't had some contact with a teacher in there day , but of course won't say so now .

I noted that you stated in both the shows that the teacher's lack of overt anger  seemed strange. Having worked with many abuse survivors, I have seen that affer repeating & retelling what happened, their story,  becomes almost rote. It can be flat, lacking affect, and even a monotone. The anger is there; the hurt is there.  Then there is also the fact that some people can only maintain their sense of self-control if they can be remote from the story--act as an outside observer. I think snap judgements--statements like you made--occur much too frequently, even from professionals.