Topic : 06/13 Teacher Sex Scandal, Part 2

I usually know what side I believe at the end of these shows, but on this one I am confused.

My opinions just from how they acted, the teacher seemed to be being deceptive while the student seemed honest. She didn't give him any eye contact while he maintained eye contact almost throughout. She also seemed to side step quite a bit. As far as the boy hemming and hawing as one writer pointed out, I don't think that shows guilt. How can anyone judge how someone is SUPPOSED to act on a television show with Dr. Phil? This wasn't a private session or anything. It was in front of hundreds of people.

As far as the lie detector test goes, there is a reason why these are NOT admissable in court. It's because they are unreliable. Why would one test show he was being honest and the next show he was lying if they were reliable?

I'd like to hear more about this case in the future.

On a side note, I never miss the show!

This is absolutely ridiculous.  I, too, believe that these boys are lying, with them it seems the cool thing to do.  Ruining someones life just because they are ashamed to admit it did not happen is unexcusable. 

When abuse happens stories do not change, people remember every minscule thing that happened, almost as if it is being lived again each time they tell it.  These boys can't keep a straight face or story.  Saying they are just now coming forward because they have cousins, neices and nephews getting ready to go to that school is a bunch of bull.  Blaming the teacher for keeping it going is so wrong, she's only keeping it going so she can clear her name.

I am not naive, we all know this has happened many times before, this time I just don't think it did. 

What is the relationship with the parents like?  Did the kids not feel like they could go to them when this supposedly happened?  I have heard that victims are ashamed and won't usually tell, but these kids never said they had been threatened if they told so why didn't they? 

I have a middle schooler who will be in high school next year, an elementary schooler who will be in middle school and one still in elementary school, I tell them repeatedly, if someone hurts, touches or threatens you no matter what the person says about what will happen if you tell, hurt your brothers/sisters, parents or you, you tell us anyway.  We are the adults and we will handle it, that's what we are here for, kids are never meant to handle adult situations or make adult decisions.  Tell no matter what!!!!  I hope if, GOD forbid, this ever happens to our children, they trust us enough to tell.

This is absolutely ridiculous.  I, too, believe that these boys are lying, with them it seems the cool thing to do.  Ruining someones life just because they are ashamed to admit it did not happen is unexcusable. 

When abuse happens stories do not change, people remember every minscule thing that happened, almost as if it is being lived again each time they tell it.  These boys can't keep a straight face or story.  Saying they are just now coming forward because they have cousins, neices and nephews getting ready to go to that school is a bunch of bull.  Blaming the teacher for keeping it going is so wrong, she's only keeping it going so she can clear her name.

I am not naive, we all know this has happened many times before, this time I just don't think it did. 

What is the relationship with the parents like?  Did the kids not feel like they could go to them when this supposedly happened?  I have heard that victims are ashamed and won't usually tell, but these kids never said they had been threatened if they told so why didn't they? 

I have a middle schooler who will be in high school next year, an elementary schooler who will be in middle school and one still in elementary school, I tell them repeatedly, if someone hurts, touches or threatens you no matter what the person says about what will happen if you tell, hurt your brothers/sisters, parents or you, you tell us anyway.  We are the adults and we will handle it, that's what we are here for, kids are never meant to handle adult situations or make adult decisions.  Tell no matter what!!!!  I hope if, GOD forbid, this ever happens to our children, they trust us enough to tell.

I think you should guide this Teacher in pursuing action against these boys and show students that this type of act is unacceptable and that they have disrupted her family's life  horrible. I can understand her emotions and reactions ,she has gone threw the trauma and emotional years of it and I am sure she is Strong and cautious about every word being said and listening so carefully that she has to put her emotions aside.AND SHE WAS NOT FOUND GUILTY SO.......Those boys have told this lie so long I think they honestly believe this happened. Now that is sick

Vicki

MEDINA,OHIO

Why do people keep saying she was found Not Guilty?? This woman was LUCKY enough to have a mistrial and this being such a SMALL town--none of us know what led to that boy dropping his charges and recanting--or the influence that Joelle's own family may have or could have played a part in that boy recanting--who knows...but I think she was VERY lucky it was a mistrial...and she is now trying to capitalize on it--I think it would have been best to  be quiet and let it go instead of try to make a buck off of it--especially given that she is SOOOO NOOOOT INNOCENT in this....She is her own worst enemy in this case--the boys might not be able to prove she did it with their lie detector tests but Joelle gives herself away and it's CLEAR. I would not have that woman in my child's Sunday school class MUCH LESS in his classroom--she is a predator and probably the town hoochie mama and I think she thrives on that type of attention. DR PHIL WHY DID YOU NOT QUESTION HER RELATIONSHIP WITH HER OWN HS TEACHER?? THEY MARRIED WITHIN 1 YEAR OF HER GRADUATION.

WHY WERE THERE SUCH DOUBLE STANDARDS ON THIS SHOW---WHY WOULD ANYONE BE ALLOWED TO SIT UP THERE, WHEN THEIR CREDIBILITY IS SO OBVIOUSLY LACKING AND THEN CALL THE SHOTS ABOUT NOT TAKING A LIE DETECTOR TEST...She treated the audience like idiots--expecting everyone to take her at face value and trust what she is saying--and she spoon fed lies--obviously--she was DEFINITELY lying about what those codes meant and even Dr. Phil pointed out that, her explanation of what they meant wouldn't make sense for someone that's has also taught English--she taught English and French.

For those that support her sooo whole heartedly, invite her to teach at your child's school--she won't teach at mine--I'd move my kids if she were hired on.

SICK SICK SICK and I wish Dr. Phil had taken charge and not let her call the shots.