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Topic : 03/13 DNA Dramas

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Created on : Friday, November 02, 2007, 11:42:49 am
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(Original Air Date: 11/05/07) Dr. Phil tackles the emotionally-charged topic of DNA tests. Over 300,000 paternity tests are done every year, 100,000 of which actually prove a father has been previously misidentified. Dr. Phil’s guest, Terrie, claims one of her grandchildren does not look like any of the men on her side of the family, and definitely not like her son, Adam. Terrie has called her daughter-in-law, Diane, a "bald-faced liar" and "a crazy woman," and Diane says her mother-in-law is dead to her! Is Terrie just a meddling mother-in-law, or is she right in thinking her son is not her grandson’s biological father? When Dr. Phil reads the results of a top-notch DNA test, will her fears be legitimized or put to rest? And what will they mean for the feuding in-laws? Then, meet Kristie, who says that after a brief affair, she found out she was pregnant. When she told the father, she says he changed his phone number and disappeared … until Dr. Phil found him. A hidden camera captures the moment when a Dr. Phil’s investigator tracks down the alleged father-to-be -- and you won’t believe his reaction. Will he take responsibility? Or will Kristie’s next rendezvous with her former paramour take place before a judge? Share your thoughts here.

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November 5, 2007, 1:51 pm PST

DNA Testing and Parenthood

As a mother of 6, 4 who are stepchildren and 2 of my own, and as a grandparent and parent, what difference does it make if a precious child is or is not the paternal or maternal parent's child (or grandchild)  We are to love them all equally whether or not they are our own, how sad is our world if paternity makes a difference.  A child is so precious and to make a determination of whether or not it depends on paternity of whether or not you love the child is just wrong.  Shame on those individuals who feel that way.
 
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November 5, 2007, 1:53 pm PST

it's not right

 ....that the child is the one who has really suffered and probably will never have a decent relationship with his grandparents.  the grandmother was one of the most nasty and spiteful people i have ever seen. 
i am an adopted person and i'm so grateful that my grandparents did not have that same attitude (because I was not their biological granddaughter). 
it's a damn shame.
 
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November 5, 2007, 1:56 pm PST

know your place - have peace

There is on old saying : Your son's your son until he takes a wife, your daughter's your daughter the rest of your life.  There's a lot of deep-seated truth to that saying.  And it is not necessarily bad.  Understanding and accepting the reality of that saying really helps lay the roadwork for expectations when a son marries. The figures quoted on today's show say that too many mothers-in-law do not trust their son's wife.

   My son is 33 and married, and the father of two beautiful girls.   My daughter-in-law is a blessing and a joy and a gift from God to our family.  If we chose to, we probably could capitalize on each other's differences; but we do not choose to.  Watching shows like this makes me want to call a florist and just send her flowers!   

   I wish there were shows that would hunt down families who were FUNCTIONING - just to showcase that there are families who are successfully navigating relationships of all sorts.  Watching so many of the Dr. Phil shows makes me grateful on a regular basis for my wonderful family, and especially those members who have been brought into our family through marriage.

 
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November 5, 2007, 1:58 pm PST

Because...

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The thing I don't get is why do men have to take responsibility for children in the first place. I am a woman and in Canada if I get pregnant I have a few options; keep the baby, put it up for adoption or abort it. Two of those options involve removing that child from my life completely.  It drives me crazy that a man has no choice and is expected to raise a child or pay for a child that he does not want.  Women make mistakes and get pregnant and they have options so why don't men? Why are men expected to take responsibility for children they dont want? Men make mistakes too and I just do not understand in the least bit why it is against the law for a man to not pay child support.  It just doesnt make sense to me. If I get pregnant and decide to keep the baby the man is automatically signed up for life but I could have just as easily aborted the baby if I didn't want it.

Men have to take responsibility because they helped create the "mistakes" as you so eloquently put it. You state the options as if adoption or abortions are easy choices-almost as if they are easier than keeping the child. I don't agree. If men don't want children by the women they are having them by, then maybe they should give a bit more thought as to who they're climbing into bed with.That also goes for the women as far as I am concerned.
 
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November 5, 2007, 2:02 pm PST

Diane should already be in therapy

Already having been diagnosed with bi-polar Diane's treatment should include medication AND therapy - somehow I get the impression from the show that she's doing the medication bit except when pregnant -- but where's the therapy?

 

One of the problems with bi-polar (also known as manic depression) is that those with it tend to go off their medications -- they start to feel so good that they think they don't need the medication and then go off it and its not really noticible till the manic rages come - the greater number of homeless people living on the streets are sufferers of bi-polar/manic depression.

 

Adam chose this life - the thing is he made this choice for his family as well - and that probably just doesn't seem fair to his mom, his siblings and even his in-laws - they're now embroiled in a drama they never wanted.  Its hard to not blame Diane as she's the cause of it - and its hard for Diane cause she didn't ask to be born with this disease.

 

I'm sorry Dr. Phil didn't go further into the root of the problem in this family and so many  others (including mine) around the nation. Its an opportunity that was lost - shame.

 
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November 5, 2007, 2:03 pm PST

Since when do adults know it all?

I am currently 16 years old. When I was 10 I found out that the man who I thought was my father was not my biological father. After watching todays show I got to thinking about what the lady who wrote the book said. She made it seem like the child was going to be completely horrified with the man who wasn't really her father and that it was still his responsibility to pay child support. Ok, well first of all who is she to say how a child will feel towards the man who was not her father. Yes, the fact that I don't know my biological father really hurts. I have tried finding him for the purpose of asking the questions I need to find closer in my mind. He wants nothing to do with me and that is very painful. But, my daddy who has been my daddy since the day I was born is the greatest man in this world. I didn't hate him because he wasn't my real dad. At first I was upset but after I had time to think about the situation I respected him because he knew I was not his daughter and he stilled treated me like one. This women was very vocal about her opinion but come on truthfully how fair can it be to make a man who is not the father of a child pay child support? I am sure he loves his "daughter" very much and he shouldn't let the truth change that  but, it isn't his responsiblity. The responsibilty and blame should be on the father who didn't care enough to stick around. That is where the real hurt comes in. I wonder all the time, what was so wrong with me that my biological father didn't want me? And further more since he knows I know about him and want to contact him ,why is he still denying me? That is what hurts the children. I wish everyday that I could just sit down and talk to him just so I can at least say I have met him and then go from there. Adults need to realize that unless the were directly affected as a child by a situation that they argue about they have no room to say how a child does or does not feel. Even professionals don't know the exact pain a child goes through and what it does to them for the rest of their lives. Sure, you can throw around some fancy legal terms and say I know it all but legal terms don't compare to the heartbreak of children.

 
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November 5, 2007, 2:04 pm PST

11/05 DNA Dramas

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I don't think Terry the mother-in-law did anything wrong if her daughter-in-law, Diane had a relationship with someone else outside the marriage and didn't know if that was her husband's child.  Diane doesn't need to get so angry at Terry for her creating the problem to start with in the first place.  I believe Diane doesn't have any right to say anything about since she created the problem.  She does have a big mouth!

 

I also believe the husband should stand up and be vocal instead of a scared rabbit!

I partly agree-the husband should stand up and tell his mother to butt out!! The mother-in-law basically said that she would love for his marriage to fall apart. What a sad woman! Shame on her! The husband knew she had intercourse with an ex and chose to stay in his marriage. They already had a DNA test done. This mother-in-law doesn't like her son's CHOICE for a partner and that is her problem. She needs to mind her own business and get a life!!!

 
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November 5, 2007, 2:05 pm PST

Are you sure Kristi?

So, you have a loser dad of your unborn child...he wants nothing to do with either of you. Why do you think he is going to step up and act like an adult? He's a grown man, likely he isn't going to grow up for you.

Don't be fooled into thinking he will send you a child support check and go away. He could want visitation and whether he does or not a court will give him that. He could file for joint custody, he could file for SOLE custody and now you have to deal with him for the next 18-19 years. Best way to get revenge on a Mother is to take her child.

Are you prepared to send your daughter to him every summer or every other weekend and every other holiday?

For your sake, since you started the ball rolling I hope that he does grow up but I am afraid you may be sorry you tracked him down.

I hate to be so negative but speaking as a divorced Mom whose ex pulled every trick in the book my first inclination is to run away from this guy and do it on you own. You can!
 
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November 5, 2007, 2:08 pm PST

Why help Kristy

So what I don't understand is why Dr. Phil is giving her a top of the line attorney to go and ruin a man's life because she went and slept around with someone she didn't even know. It was her choice to keep the baby not his so let her fend for herself. Dr. phil should have given her a pamphlet on safe sex not an attorney. Leave the guy and his wife alone.
 
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November 5, 2007, 2:12 pm PST

Kristi is NUTS to want the father involved!!!

Kristi, I would count my BLESSINGS that this jerk is not in the picture and doesn't want to be. Do you realize that if you get him involved he can get shared custody of your child? And THAT means that his probably psycho WIFE, who you don't know from Adam will be in charge of her well being when she's at HIS house???????????????

 

There is no WAYYYYYYYYYY I would give my child over to some lunatic man and his God-only-knows-who wife. Are you CRAZY?????????????? You won't have ANY say on what takes place in their house while YOUR daughter is there. And if you drag him into this you're asking for it.

 

RUN as fast as you CAN away from this situation or you're offering your daughter up to be in THEIR home with whatever THEY do in it.

 
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