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Topic : 03/13 DNA Dramas

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Created on : Friday, November 02, 2007, 11:42:49 am
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(Original Air Date: 11/05/07) Dr. Phil tackles the emotionally-charged topic of DNA tests. Over 300,000 paternity tests are done every year, 100,000 of which actually prove a father has been previously misidentified. Dr. Phil’s guest, Terrie, claims one of her grandchildren does not look like any of the men on her side of the family, and definitely not like her son, Adam. Terrie has called her daughter-in-law, Diane, a "bald-faced liar" and "a crazy woman," and Diane says her mother-in-law is dead to her! Is Terrie just a meddling mother-in-law, or is she right in thinking her son is not her grandson’s biological father? When Dr. Phil reads the results of a top-notch DNA test, will her fears be legitimized or put to rest? And what will they mean for the feuding in-laws? Then, meet Kristie, who says that after a brief affair, she found out she was pregnant. When she told the father, she says he changed his phone number and disappeared … until Dr. Phil found him. A hidden camera captures the moment when a Dr. Phil’s investigator tracks down the alleged father-to-be -- and you won’t believe his reaction. Will he take responsibility? Or will Kristie’s next rendezvous with her former paramour take place before a judge? Share your thoughts here.

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November 8, 2007, 6:09 am PST

I understand what you're saying.

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You were not responding to my post, but please let me tell you MY story....

 

I have worked as a felony parole officer and as a high school teacher. I have personally known young women who didn't know who the father was, but who CHOSE the guy they wanted to be the father. Young men/boys don't always know enough about demanding a DNA test. Some allow their names on the birth certificates even though they know there is a possiblity of another father.

 

Let's face it, NOBODY should be jumping into bed with someone they don't love and aren't married to...if not for moral reasons, than due to reasons like unplanned pregnancies, disease, etc. There are good and bad men and women out there and if you don't think some women LIE about parternity, I have some swamp land to sell you! That is where the "Tricking" comes in....

But, I was thinking about the actual act of conception. If a guy doesn't want to be a father, then he should take measures to prevent it. Of course so should the woman. I know s*** happens. Sometimes a child is conceived no matter how much birth control is practiced. Sometimes people just don't think. But if a guy doesn't want to be tricked then maybe he shouldn't do the deed in the first place. Same thing goes for a woman. I guess I figured what with DNA testing being available a woman would hesitate to falsely accuse someone.
 
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November 8, 2007, 7:48 am PST

Evil MIL needs to be banned from those kid's lives

We have been married for 16 yrs and have 3 boys. Two look mostly like my husband, but the second one, looks just like my side of the family.

 

If one of my inlaws EVER suggested that I was a whore and my son was not also my husband's son, I would cut them off for life, and anyone else who didn't like it.

 

This Terrie is one evil, conniving, snake in the grass. I am glad her son can see her for the bitch that she is. Evil.

 
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November 8, 2007, 7:54 am PST

11/05 DNA Dramas

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The thing I don't get is why do men have to take responsibility for children in the first place. I am a woman and in Canada if I get pregnant I have a few options; keep the baby, put it up for adoption or abort it. Two of those options involve removing that child from my life completely.  It drives me crazy that a man has no choice and is expected to raise a child or pay for a child that he does not want.  Women make mistakes and get pregnant and they have options so why don't men? Why are men expected to take responsibility for children they dont want? Men make mistakes too and I just do not understand in the least bit why it is against the law for a man to not pay child support.  It just doesnt make sense to me. If I get pregnant and decide to keep the baby the man is automatically signed up for life but I could have just as easily aborted the baby if I didn't want it.

 It takes the same number of people to conceive a child, whether  it's up there in Canada, or  down here in the US.  A woman. And, a man.. Having sex. The "results" are as much the man's responsibility. As the woman's. If a man doesn't want a child,  it's easy to stay out of that predicament. By not having unprotected sex. Even if a woman says she's on birth control, it wouldn't hurt to use a condom.  Not every woman is responsible enough to take her pills, or get her shots, on schedule. That's how so many women "on birth control" get pregnant. By skipping a pill here and there. Thinking it won't make any difference. A man who doesn't want to get "automatically signed up for life" ought to skip the unprotected sex. Or, just keep his pants up. And, zipped.  
 
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November 8, 2007, 10:26 am PST

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 It takes the same number of people to conceive a child, whether  it's up there in Canada, or  down here in the US.  A woman. And, a man.. Having sex. The "results" are as much the man's responsibility. As the woman's. If a man doesn't want a child,  it's easy to stay out of that predicament. By not having unprotected sex. Even if a woman says she's on birth control, it wouldn't hurt to use a condom.  Not every woman is responsible enough to take her pills, or get her shots, on schedule. That's how so many women "on birth control" get pregnant. By skipping a pill here and there. Thinking it won't make any difference. A man who doesn't want to get "automatically signed up for life" ought to skip the unprotected sex. Or, just keep his pants up. And, zipped.  

Even if the man never has unprotected sex a child is still possible, especially given some very deceptive tricks some women have done that have made the news (and those that have not).  "Forgetting" birth control is only one method.  Not to mention the obvious, that condoms aren't 100% effective all the time.  Are these men who do take precautions seriously given a pass by you or would you say your argument is more along the lines of...

"A man who doesn't want to get automatically signed up for life ought to skip sex & be cautious about anything involving his sperm since not every woman is responsible enough and some are much worse."

 

 

 
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November 8, 2007, 10:36 am PST

REPEATED INFIDELITY - FEMALE AND MALE

If you are with in a relationship with someone, you expect the relationship to grow and deepen over time; you expect a heart connection to be made and maintained.  You operate your life based on this expectation.  When your partner in the relationship does not or cannot make an emotional connection, the relationship becomes very painful.  Some of my favorite books that provide a great introduction and insight into personality types most capable of repeated infidelity are:

 

 

Why is it Always About You?  The Seven Deadly Sins of Narcissism by Sandy Hotchkiss  AND Emotional Blackmail:  When the People in Your Life Use Fear, Obligation and Guilt to Manipulate You by Susan Forward  

 

Malignant Self Love:  Narcissism Revisited by Sam Vaknin MAYBE The Professional Bachelors Dating Guide:  How to Exploit Her Inner Psycho by Dr Brett Tate

 

Get Me Out of Here:  My Recovery From Borderline Personality Disorder by Rachel Reiland OR Girl Interrupted by Susanna Kaysen OR Stop Walking on Eggshells by Paul Mason and Randi Kreger

 

Healthy Boundaries Workbook: Using Dialectical Behavior Therapy Skills to Set and Maintain Better Boundaries by Deborah Deiboldt Legge OR Overcoming Passive-Aggression by Tim Murphy and Loriann Oberlin OR Emotional Unavailability by Bryn Collins

 

 

Though harder to spot, emotional abuse is easier to deny.  But just as physical abuse has signposts to mark its presence, emotional abuse, being a systematic attack on one's sense of self, has common traits.  Physical abuse comes in degrees of severity - emotional abuse also runs the gamut of intensity and damage.

 

There are relationships, marriages and families that are so destructive the only option is for a person to get out.  Get out with the little bit of sanity you may have remaining.  Make a promise to yourself to leave.  Leave so you can begin a life of healing and recovery.  Leave so you can learn to live a joyful, peaceful, trusting and fulfilling life.

 

 

Hope it helps!

 

 
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November 8, 2007, 10:58 am PST

A little tired of hearing "someone needs to be a hero".

 
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November 8, 2007, 11:07 am PST

A little tired of hearing "someone needs to be a hero".

That seems to be Dr Phil's answer to everything "in-law" situation these days and Dr Phil needs to realize that what a real "hero" would do is protect an innocent 9 year old child from an adult who is attacking them.

 

Her daughter-in-law may be nuts....but the mother-in-law  is a child abuser.  She called a 9 year old little girl "psycho", a liar, a manipulator  on National Television.    There is no way I would allow a woman like that around my children ... period (related or not). 

 

This is one MIL that has not "earned" the RIGHT to be part of their core family.  

 

 
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November 8, 2007, 11:30 am PST

DNA Testing

Here's a novel idea:  All babies born require DNA testing before a father's name may be printed on the birth certificate.  If the DNA test proves the father wishing to be on the certificate is not his, then he must legally adopt the baby before becoming financially responsible.

 

 

 
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November 8, 2007, 2:30 pm PST

MOTHER IN LAW AND DAUGHTER SHARE TRAITS

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That seems to be Dr Phil's answer to everything "in-law" situation these days and Dr Phil needs to realize that what a real "hero" would do is protect an innocent 9 year old child from an adult who is attacking them.

 

Her daughter-in-law may be nuts....but the mother-in-law  is a child abuser.  She called a 9 year old little girl "psycho", a liar, a manipulator  on National Television.    There is no way I would allow a woman like that around my children ... period (related or not). 

 

This is one MIL that has not "earned" the RIGHT to be part of their core family.  

 

An opinion everyone.... the mother-in-law and the daughter seem to be very similar in personality and the son is meek.  The son appears to depend on his wife to take on his mother.  Is this an example of the son choosing a wife like his mother????

 

I think the mother should SHUT UP AND BACK OFF but she won't.  she doesn't know how.  TOO BAD.

Daughter needs to ignore the mother in law and go about her business.  The children won't benefit from exposure to this grandmother anyway. ..... not without a lot of direct therapy.  That is an opinion!

 

Been There.

 
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November 8, 2007, 3:37 pm PST

all I can say is....

I took offense when Dr. Phil said they were acting like 5 year olds in the schoolyard. I have a son who just turned five, and I have never seen/would never see this kind of immature name calling come from him.

 

I have two words for all involved in this family: GROW UP.

 
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