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Do you make outrageous snap judgments? Can you really tell if a person is rich, poor, smart or even lazy just by the way he or she looks? Dr. Phil's guests -- and audience members -- think they've got people figured out based on first impressions and appearances. Dr. Phil begins by using his own audience to demonstrate how people judge others based on their appearances … and you won't believe the result! Then, Dr. Phil introduces six opinionated people with extreme points of view. First up is Shirley, who looks like a soccer mom, though on video she admits to being a man-hater, calling men idiots and creeps, and saying they only think from below the waist. Next, Dr. Phil approaches Dick, who's wearing sunglasses. He admits to being a chauvinist and says women are whores, and the only thing they are good for is having kids. Another woman, Kimberly, is so morally righteous that she believes her way is the right way, and if you don't agree with her, she'll throw the Bible in your face and give you a one way ticket to hell! Next, meet Jason who is anti-society and has a laundry list of judgments, including the belief that 90 percent of people are idiots and mindless sheep. Then, Erin, admits to being a racist ... against her own race!  She won't let her children socialize with other African-American kids, and she says she's ashamed of black people. Finally meet Crystal, who admits to judging people all day long and says pretty people should only hang out with other pretty people. At the end of the show, Dr. Phil surprises these six guests by sending them to The Dr. Phil House. After finding out who their roommates will be, will they still decide to move in? Follow this series to see if these judgmental men and women will survive living under one roof as their staunch beliefs get put to the test. Talk about the show here.

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shayna22
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November 5, 2007, 9:50 pm PST

The silent spouse and the overwhelmed daughter in law

 I am sad for all three women that were presented today. The pregnant gal seems like her head is on straight and Dr. Phil has provided her with good support.  I don't think I would bring the baby to ter, but I respect her desire.
    Grandma, on the otherhand, certainly is the SADDEST.  The silent husband/ son clearly supported his wife overtly, but I doubt that he has ever dealt well with his withdrawal from his mother's offensive ways. It appears that they are able to make their marriage work.
    I didn't hear Dr. Phill offer the couple any followup support.  It seems to me that it would be healthy if they addressed their family dynamics in a consistent manner with a support system that provides the small increments of acknowledgement for each focussed goalneeded.  Perhaps, they are not ready. 
    Good luck kids. You have  parents and grandparents in training.  Silence here certainly would be golden. Short of that, may I suggest a minute timer to limit  the high strung style for their verbal-gcontact sport.  Happy thanksgiving to each of you.  (BTW, I'd rather spend it with my family thank you with all its booboos, etc).  S
 
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November 5, 2007, 11:28 pm PST

whatever happened to being a human

Honestly--I have seen for 66 years people judging people for the length of a skirt, the way their teeth are being treated, whether they are fat or slim, haired or non-haired.  I have seen judgements from so many "are they gay"  "are they straight" "are they a virgin" "are they a whore"--and I have discovered that one's judgement more often than not has no basis in reality--I think the only REAL thing I have ever learned is the word "assume"--seems to make an ass out of you and me.
 
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November 6, 2007, 2:15 am PST

11/06 Introducing the House of Judgment

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I grew up in a small town where everyone thought they knew each others business. They also spent thousands of dollars to keep up with the Jones'.  (There is a Jones family in every small town) I spent my working career doing business and working with accounts.  At a very young age I learned not to judge people by how they spoke or how they dressed.  The ones dressed to "the nines" most of the time were in Credit card hell and the ones that seemed simple and plain, didn't make lots of money but saved all they made, were the ones who paid their bills on time and usually in cash money.  It was amazing.  I have learned that the quiet man, dressed poorly in the back of the room is sitting there so no one can see the bulge in the back of is pants from his wallet.  I also learned the person who says "I'm just an old country boy" is sniffing out that wallet, and the one that professes his faith in the first meeting is just like the old country boy and neither one of them will be paying their bills in cash, if they pay them at all.  I have learned it's not how much you earn, it's how you take care of what you earn and what you own.   I have tired to share this theory with young folks and those around me, and they think it takes a rich man to become rich.  It just takes some great tips on buying (like never pay retail and even if it says it's on sale, it's your job to check the prices and make sure, stay stocked up on groceries so you can always buy on sale, buy your clothes at the final reduced price (who cares about style anyway, except people who wear no panties (just joking), but dress in a way that fashion does not dictate your seasonal clothes so you can wear them until you are tired of them or they are worn out,and take care of the little things that need done around the house before e everything needs replaced.  Also, keep your car clean, it's a big investment that declines in value everyday.  Take care of it and it will take care of you.  I am shocked how my simple depression era thinking has prepared me for retirement with more than I ever dreamed to have and to own.  Don't be a sucker for designer labels unless you buy them with a slight flaw at a warehouse resale joint.  I do and get compliments each time I go out. I spent my money on my glasses and my shoes, as those are the two most important fashion items, because if we can walk and see, we truly are blessed and in fashion. If you don't take care of your pennies, you will never see a dime. My personal quote, as far as I know.  Stay out of debt and help your community by buying at the Salvation Army, donating clothes back to them that you have bought else where and enjoy the freedom this lifestyle wll give to you.  Within a year you will be shocked at your bank balance.  I can tell you that  I honesty don't know what my neighbors drive and I don't care. I never open the blinds on the front windows as I don't want to know how they live.  I am here if they need me, but if we don't look too closely, then we cannot see clear enough to cause envy.  Living in Freedomville!!! (With all of my dimes, created by pennies)
I'm sorry, I'm just a little offended by your post. You say that the guy claiming to be an "old country boy" was looking for a handout or trying to steal money. I am an "old country girl" and can assure you I have NO desire for a handout from anyone. I don't want to steal anyone's money either! I grew up growing my own vegetables, went out and hunted my own food, and caught my own fish to cook and eat. I pay my bills on time, not in cash, but out of money that is honestly earned, out of MY bank account , and not someone else's! I don't care about the latest fashion, but do take pride in how I look. I agree that you should take  care of your things and not worry about , or want what others have. I have a wonderful husband, 7 wonderful kids, and 3 great grandchildren. So don't just assume that all those old country boys are thieves looking for handouts. You might be just a little surprised to learn what they really mean is someone who is self-reliant and can take care of themselves if something were to happen.
 
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November 6, 2007, 4:21 am PST

Introducing the House of Judgement

Dear Dr.Phil,

Of all the people up there who are going into the house, Dick worries and scares me to death. To me he is the ultimate in men who hate women, see them as whores, how abhorrent he is to me.  I do hope, along with the other people,  that Dick does come to some positive and kind belief .

Lory(Australia).
 
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November 6, 2007, 4:38 am PST

Gosh darn

I guess they wouldn't allow my first post because it had swearing in it.

 

Alright i'll make it simple. I agree with Masterson. I frequent his site often. I implore you to visit his site and throroughly read through it. It's well worth it. I welcome any further argument. Except for the big 4. I mean rational arguments people.

 

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November 6, 2007, 5:28 am PST

Are you prejudice?????????

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Those self-righteous bible thumping people drive me nuts!! My son's wife is like that, and we just don't get along.

 

I am looking forward to seeing how Dr. Phil handles a situation like that. I sure need some tips. You can be sure I'll not miss this show!! Even if I'm not home though, I record it. I've learned so much from the good doc. Love ya, Dr. Phil!!

Geesh, I love how YOU generalize..."bible thumping people." In my 44 years, those who use that term don't like Christians, don't go to church, don't want to follow God's teachings and are quite PREJUDICE!

I bet all we practicing Christians look alike, too!!! :)

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Did you ever think that perhaps it's YOU who makes a relationship difficult? Perhaps your PRE-JUDGING of CHristians makes YOU difficult to like or get along with. I do believe there are TWO SIDES to things; I would be curious to hear your daughter-in-law's side!

 

I LOVE God, attend mass weekly, bring Communion to people in nursing homes, lead women's ministries at church and have a very close family who is active in our parish (ushers, altar-servers, etc). We know God's teachings aren't always easy, but His word isn't supposed to be; it's the TRUTH and we are supposed to do our humanly best to follow His teachings. HOPEFULLY Dr. Phil will be insightful and HONEST enough to acknowledge that there ARE some TRUTHS...God's word is TRUTH. So if God's says pre-marital sex is a sin (which He does) than it IS. If He says marriage is for a man and woman, than it IS. The list goes on and on and is NOT popular with atheists, agnostics, secular humanists (I think I just described Hollywood:).

 

HOPEFULLY the Christian guest on the show will not be arrogant, but I gather from the pre-views that her HUMAN ARROGANCE is why she was selected for the show. She may be correct in following God's teachings, but only God is the judge. She SHOULD hate sin, but she should never hate the sinner.

 
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November 6, 2007, 5:37 am PST

Shame on you, Dr. Phil

In today's times, CHRISTIANS are getting bashed by the networks, by Hollywood and by supposedly "progressive" people, yet you lower yourself to the usual judgemental Christian! Go to any message board on the Internet and see just who's bashing who? Look who's doing much of the judging...it's ain't the practicing Christian; it's the ANGRY non-Christian who loves to make fun of the faithful.

 

I bet you would never put an Atheist or Agnostice or Secular Humanist on your show....you know the ones, the ones who OFTEN love to bash CHristians and love to attack their faith. Would it be too much to ask for you to not buy into the LET'S BASH FALLIBLE CHRISTIANS bandwagon? I seem to hear MANY non-Christians being judgemental of Christians and labeling them ALL "Bible Thumpers," "Jesus Freaks," etc.

 

I have been on both sides of the fence...Atheist and now Catholic. I can tell you that the media (AND YOU) love to portray the 1% of the bad, but seldom cover the 99% of the good. It's NOT atheist groups feeding and clothing and providing job training to the poor of this country and the poor of the world, you know!!! It's not secular humanist groups pouring money into plates to help those in needs or working in soup kitchenas and food pantries or allowig the Red Cross to operate out of its buildings.

 

We are ALL sinners. It's sad, though, that you wanted to capatalize on ONE Christian woman whose HUMAN arrogance has made her lose sight of God's teachings. At least she attempts to follow God's teachings! You just HAD to go and perpetuate the anti-Christian attitude in this country, didn't you? Congratulations; I shall pass on watching the show today.
 
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November 6, 2007, 6:27 am PST

Judemental???

Sorry but the woman that syas everyone that smoke, or drinks or get piercings are going to hell?  I was a sunday teacher for a few years, an avid church going member and a member of the choir and youth group and nowhere in the bible does it say anything about drinking, smoking or piercings!!!  She needs to go back to church and find some real meanings!!!
 
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November 6, 2007, 6:27 am PST

about the guy that likes for u to call him "dick"

i was so mad when i heard what he said about women on the show. you said women are only good to have kids but they dont raise them good. let me tell you i would love to see you try to raise kids. i am a army wife and a mother to five kids and let me tell u it is hard being a army wife and a mother cause most of the time we are sinlge moms due to the deployments. i am not looking for anyone to feel sorry for me but i would love to see how this guy would handle being in a women shoes. we dont not spend a mans money. sometimes the woman takes care of the bills but just because some of us dont have outside jobs we do have jobs it is called being a wife and a mom. so try it before u start talking about us. u really hit a nerve today with all that you said about women. how dare u talk about someone you dont even know. there are alot of women that are great people.wifes,mothers,and a friend. so know that i have got this out to everyone thanks so supporting our troops during this war. from a army wife,mother and a friend to a single mother in the us army. god bless our troops and our families.
 
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November 6, 2007, 6:56 am PST

Matt 7vs 1,

I am surprised how people are always fast to quote Matt 7vs 1, just like Dr Phil did today on the show, without taking time to find out to whom Jesus directed this statements at. I have seen a lot of christians go quiet whenever that verse is flashed on them.
That verse was directed at the Pharisees who were religious dogmas, spiritually immature to judge or apply fair judgements when it comes spiritual issues. So He told them, "do not judge' so that those you are trying to 'judge' will not inturn point out many things that you are doing wrong (which the pharisees had in abundance...check Mat 23:13-35).

But for a spiritually mature, the Bible in 1 Corinthians 2:15 makes it clear. "But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man". It was just an audience differences.
Judgement doesnt always involve condemning. Our everyday life involves us being able to 'judge' (not condemn) and decide on simple choices. A person who opts for a good choice over another obviously bad one is judging, so it doesnt always suggest condemnation. We often talk of having good judgements, which means there's a bad judgement option. Dont always quote Matt 7v1, check out 1 Cor2:15
 
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