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Topic : 06/19 Finding Alex

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Created on : Friday, November 02, 2007, 11:49:16 am
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(Original Air Date: 11/07/07) How do you get through to rebellious teens who think they are invincible? When Alex and her mother, Kim, last appeared on the show, Alex was an out-of-control 14-year-old who was using drugs, running away and prostituting herself to older men. The family, along with Kim’s sister-in-law, Enza, moved into The Dr. Phil House for an intervention. After attending a therapeutic academy, it seemed like the teen was on the road to recovery. But shortly after returning home to her mom, Alex was back to her bad behavior and having sex with strange men –- some of whom she met on Craigslist! She went on the lam again, and Dr. Phil recruited investigator Harold Copus to hit the streets of Seattle to find her. When Harold confronts the teen, Alex has a major meltdown, then comes clean about the risky behavior she engaged in while living on the streets. She admits to having unprotected sex with up to 50 men, so Dr. Phil has her examined for STDs and pregnancy. What will the tests reveal? Then, Alex refuses to return home to her mother. Will there ever be reconciliation, and will Alex be able to get her life back on track? Join the discussion.

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November 8, 2007, 8:19 am PST

Alex is my best friend.

I love her with all of my heart, I went to the boarding school with her and it is unfortunate that she went back to her old ways.  She callde me and told me she was and I didn't listen.  I thought she was bluffing.  But now I know she wasn't/  I hadn't heard from her in two months and this  is what I found out she was doing.   I love her she gave me a nickname and she said we'd have babies together<im a girl. lol it's a joke.>.  She is so sweet and fun.  It was obvious to me that she was struggling with having to leave aos , well before she left.  She began to do bad things and she started getting more and more angry.   She even said she wasn't ready and didn't want to go home.  I don't know whether to blame aos or dr. phil for not helping her enough.  Aos didn't help her learn to address the problem outside of her therapy sessions and I think it would have helped her to talk about it.  But she was ashamed of it and didn't.  I love Alex so much, so don't let me hear anyone call her a hoe or a bad seed.  She really is just a sweet, lost girl.  She doesn't like her mother, why put her back in that situatuion?  Alex is not going to beniefit much from this new place, Four Winds.  I know she won't because I know her.  But she won't refuse to go because she is going to be away from her mother.  I miss Alex tremedously.  She is my love.  My best friend.   I just don't want to see her hurt anymore.  Alex and I spent alot of time together at AOS... and I'm surprised she gained so much weight.  I gained some weight back to, having lost 70 pounds but Idon't know what I think anymore about AOS.  Everyone recently is gaining back weight. The alumni just talk about suing it but no on has the money too, now that we spent all of it at AOS.  I wish it had helped Alex, but how could I  when it doesn't help in the long run anyways? 

 

I LOVE YOU ALEX!

we'll make milado babies one day. 

never forget bon-qui-qui loves you.

 
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November 8, 2007, 8:58 am PST

Troubled teen

    It's sad to see a young girl so out of control. I had rules growing up as most of us did. I think she must have received a lot of mixed messages while living at home. She is extremely confused you could see that when she was on stage. I remember when she was in he Dr. Phil House with her aunt and mother. There you could see through the fog that she was subjected to a lot of dysfunctional situations at home. I think sending her to Oklahoma for counsel and treatment just might work. As for mom she needs some help as well.
 
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November 8, 2007, 9:06 am PST

Alex and Mother had their chance!!!

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Alex and her family have already gotten one chance more than many people in her situation will ever get.  Do they think treatment programs such as the one she went through are cheap?  And I guess having a psychologist of Dr. Phil's caliber essentially donating his time is just normal and every day? 

 

There are so many other people out there who need help, and because this family refused to get itself pulled together, more resources have to be poured into them.  I hope Dr. Phil makes this their last chance.  Maybe the realization that they may lose their safety net will give them a heads up.  And, as sad as it is, maybe they should be made to live with their choices as so many other people are doing even now.  Compassion and care can only go so far, people have to want to change and give it their all as well.

I agree with you!!! Yesterday, Dr. Phil informed the audience that the mother threatened to sue him and his staff because they did not do enough for them!!!!!WHAT??I would have kicked the mother off the stage.  She had her chance.  How ungrateful can one human being be???How disappointing was Dr. Phil to 'cave' into her threat?? 
 
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November 8, 2007, 9:17 am PST

Wish You Well

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I love her with all of my heart, I went to the boarding school with her and it is unfortunate that she went back to her old ways.  She callde me and told me she was and I didn't listen.  I thought she was bluffing.  But now I know she wasn't/  I hadn't heard from her in two months and this  is what I found out she was doing.   I love her she gave me a nickname and she said we'd have babies together<im a girl. lol it's a joke.>.  She is so sweet and fun.  It was obvious to me that she was struggling with having to leave aos , well before she left.  She began to do bad things and she started getting more and more angry.   She even said she wasn't ready and didn't want to go home.  I don't know whether to blame aos or dr. phil for not helping her enough.  Aos didn't help her learn to address the problem outside of her therapy sessions and I think it would have helped her to talk about it.  But she was ashamed of it and didn't.  I love Alex so much, so don't let me hear anyone call her a hoe or a bad seed.  She really is just a sweet, lost girl.  She doesn't like her mother, why put her back in that situatuion?  Alex is not going to beniefit much from this new place, Four Winds.  I know she won't because I know her.  But she won't refuse to go because she is going to be away from her mother.  I miss Alex tremedously.  She is my love.  My best friend.   I just don't want to see her hurt anymore.  Alex and I spent alot of time together at AOS... and I'm surprised she gained so much weight.  I gained some weight back to, having lost 70 pounds but Idon't know what I think anymore about AOS.  Everyone recently is gaining back weight. The alumni just talk about suing it but no on has the money too, now that we spent all of it at AOS.  I wish it had helped Alex, but how could I  when it doesn't help in the long run anyways? 

 

I LOVE YOU ALEX!

we'll make milado babies one day. 

never forget bon-qui-qui loves you.

I hope that you are doing well.  I might point out that help can be offered but it is up to each of us to take the hand extended to us.  You really can't sue because someone did not "help you enough."  I think that you know that you alone are responsible for your own decisions.  Alex has relapsed- Please don't follow her over that cliff.  You can help her best by proving to her that you CAN overcome adversity and come out on top.  The best gift that you can give Alex is to succeed!  I wish you well.
 
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November 8, 2007, 9:54 am PST

It is what it is...

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I agree with you!!! Yesterday, Dr. Phil informed the audience that the mother threatened to sue him and his staff because they did not do enough for them!!!!!WHAT??I would have kicked the mother off the stage.  She had her chance.  How ungrateful can one human being be???How disappointing was Dr. Phil to 'cave' into her threat?? 
I agree that they shouldn't waste any more valuable resorces on someone who thinks so little of herself that she'll have sex with anyone, anywhere. I mean, in a laundromat?! YUCK! I submitted a comment yesterday, but they didn't print it, because I think it was too blunt, but a skank is a skank is a skank, and if the shoe fits, wear it. This girl won't go to school, and she can barely put 2 sentences together intelligently. I have no sympathy for her whatsoever. She couldn't even tell Dr. Phil what it is that her mother does that upsets her so much, other than she tries to tell her what to do....I believe in second chances, but there has to be something there to begin with worth saving, and I stand by my initial assesment of her inherent skankiness. Sorry if this is too blunt for the Dr. Phil website, but, as Dr. Phil himself is fond of saying..'Lets get real'...
 
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November 8, 2007, 10:09 am PST

Finding Alex

Honestly!!!! She could have not been my daughter!! 15years old, running away, disrespectful, having sex, etc. I would have asked her what funerl home would she like to have her body???? I'm so so so  sorry!!! I am a single parent of 2 girls and I refuse to let them run over me!!!!!!!!!!! I'm not at all abusive but I work EVERYDAY and I'm not having it. If she would have put in foster care then she would have been dying to get back home. So me personally will NOT put up with that mess!!!!! Like the old saying goes "I brought you into this world and I WILL take you out!!!!". Thank you and have a nice day.
 

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November 8, 2007, 10:18 am PST

How does this happen?!

I'm afraid that when I was a teen I never even thought of having sex with anyone, much less dozens of men. I had hobbies, friends, etc and having loose sex was just not part of the picture. Not that my life was picture perfect, with a dysfunctional mother and nasty father, but it did not drive me to the absolutely stupid behavior I saw in Alex. And her attitude towards help was astonishing! "Whatever". She appears to have very low intelligence as well as low emotional intelligence and I do not think that the mother was much better. Glad Dr. Phil called her out on the whole lawsuit thing. Having amazingly not contracted any STD or Aids was pretty darn lucky and not a good example for the teens out there watching the show thinking they too would escape permanent consequences. She could stand to lose about 60 pounds too. Why would any guy want to have sex with someone that big?

 

So, clear this up for me....just what childhood events would have caused this behavior? Was she sexually abused? beaten? starved? burned with cigarettes? forced to take mind altering substances? kept in the attic? is it genetic? is part of her brain missing? What?

 
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November 8, 2007, 10:56 am PST

11/07 Finding Alex

This story is just sad. I honestly don't know what 15 year old girl could ever possibly get away with having sex with dozens of men and running away. The mother really needs to step up on this one. Her failure to do so in the past is present in the current behavior of her daughter. A lot of issues teens have today fall back on parenting, or lack there of. Dr. Phil tried to help this young girl  once and she went back to her reckless and self-destructive ways. If she doesn't take advantage of the help offered to her this time then I say 'oh well'. You can't save them all.
 

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November 8, 2007, 11:46 am PST

11/07 Finding Alex

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 Anyone who saw the first first show. Is there any mention of the the father? If so, what did they say?
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From what I remember, there was no mention of the father.  I bet Alex is prostituting herself because she so desperately wants love from a man, because she never got the love from her own father.    I'm surprised they didn't discuss this point a little bit.  And clearly the mother has not been perfect, but usually kids want to turn-out good no matter what their situation is.  But this Alex seems self-destructive.  I don't think she wants to live at all.
 
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November 8, 2007, 1:08 pm PST

finding alex

wow, i have a teenage daughter that just turned 18....about 3mo ago, she decided that she did not have to come home anymore, and so one weekend she did not come home. i called her  cell phone for 36hrs with no response...finally on sunday morn about 1115 i had called the police dept to file a runaway report and while i was filing the report she text me and wanted to know what was up...the officer ask for her number and called her...she answered and he told her that she had 15min to get home...we talked and she told me everything that she did not like and just pretty much told me that when she turned 18 she would be gone, and i told her that if that happened she would not be leaving with her car, cell phone, and anything else...if she wanted to leave she could, but she would only leave with her clothes. well she turned 18 and she is still at home, and i know that if she leaves there is nothing that i can do, so i just try to get along and if she stays at her boyfriends home, atleast i know where she is...she is on birthcontrol and has been since 9grade. some people say that is wrong, i feel like it is smart, and that way she wont have a child at a young age....i am a single mom and i have been told that i was bad for this or that because her father chose not to be in her life...that was his choice not mine so i finally told her that if she wanted to find her father, because men can be fathers, but it is a special person that can be a dad....we found him and he is in prison for drugs...that is the kind of person he is...i know that i have made mistakes along the way, but that is just the way it went and i did my  best...it wasn't like i was a teenage mom...i was 34 when i had my daughter and she has always had everything that she needed and to many other things that she wanted especially being an only grandchild...she is a terrific student and all the teachers have always told me that they would like to have a whole classroom of kids like her...when she started this stuff up at the beginning of aug it caught me off guard because i had never been through anything like that with her...when you have a child that doesn't come home and you don't know where she is at....it absolutely makes you ill...my daughter has not had the best mom, because i am a cancer patient and she has had to do a lot of things that children her age (she was 10)when i got sick...and so she has been through a lot that kids should not have to deal with but that was the way it was and we went through it. i hope and pray that alex takes this second chance as important as it is and makes good choices, and mom i hope that you can make it and that both of you can become close once again....

 
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