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Created on : Friday, November 02, 2007, 11:53:05 am
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(Original Air Date: 11/16/07) We live in a culture that glamorizes svelte celebrities from Angelina Jolie to Paris Hilton. But some women put their lives in jeopardy for the sake of being skinny.  Twenty-three-year-old Jessica weighs 95 pounds and has battled anorexia for 10 years. She says she’s obsessed with exercising and counting calories, and only sees a fat woman when she looks in the mirror. Jessica’s younger sister, Theresa, fears for Jessica’s life but doesn’t know how to approach her. What’s at the root of Jessica’s disorder? Find out why the siblings say the answer lies in their childhood. Then, Jessica isn’t the only one in her family fighting anorexia. Her 12-year-old cousin, Nicole, was recently hospitalized because she lost 60 pounds in the last three months -- all in an effort to look like Nicole Richie. Don’t miss Dr. Phil’s strong message for the young women. Plus, Alita became bulimic at the age of 17 when she weighed 220 pounds. Now, at 24, she’s 95 pounds lighter but still wants to lose weight. Alita says she binges every day -- eating up to six plates of food at a time -- and then purges. She gives Dr. Phil camera crews a disturbing look at a day in her life. And, Alita’s father, Frank, worries that she’ll die if she doesn’t get help soon. Is Frank enabling her bulimia? Share your thoughts here.

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June 17, 2008, 6:30 am PDT

Center for change

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As a mother with a daughter working on recovering from anexeria, this young lady needs to get to Remuda Ranch in Arizona IMMEDIATELY. Her life is in danger, and they will help. This was my daughter 4 months ago, and my Heather is on the road to recovery. She weighed 109 at 5'10" when she was admitted. This program is the best in the country as far as I'm concerned. They start with a minimum of 60 days, not 30 as most. At 30 days, nothing can be accomplished, leaving these young ladies to suffer further. I need to talk to Dr. Phil or someone on staff, because this has affected the lives of so many young women, it's just crazy. Can someone tell me how to get in touch with a person?
All of the girls went  to the Center for Change in Utah, which is an absolutely amazing facility.  Thank god for their staff and all they have done to help.
 
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June 18, 2008, 1:21 pm PDT

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I feel bad about this but I'm going to say it .  I have no sympathy for these people because it is something they bring on themselves. I can't even stand to look at them, they are so disgusting looking. I know that I should feel bad for them but it is something that even if my best friend had the "disorder" I would walk away. They know what they are doing is going to kill them and yet they choose to continue doing it, competing with the next anorexic or bulimic to see who can be the skinniest and who can get the most attention.
The biggest thing I have against people who do this to themselves is looking at the pictures on TV of people who are starving to death in 3rd world countries. It is a mockery to them that they do this! They are the ones who have my sympathy and I would give my eye teeth to be able to feed them. How dare these selfish people who have everything they need and more deliberately starve themselves for attention and competition when millions in the world would love to have the food they refuse or vomit!!!!! And to those that would whine, "you don't understand", or "you are uncaring", I say I do understand and I do care. I understand your selfish motives and I care about those that are starving because they are dirt poor. We in this country are so blessed and to refuse the blessing is an affront to God.

I will not watch this show. I can't stand to even look at them and their crocodile tears.

then you need to read up on this disease because obviously you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

This is an illness and I can assure you it is not for attention.

 

I am not even going to debate you all I will say is your ignorant.

 

google causes for eating disorders. Maybe if you took a moment to read you would see that your theory is completely false.

 

 
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June 18, 2008, 5:49 pm PDT

Jessica- Missing a Mom

Jessica is a sad girl that has never felt loved in her life!!  Yes, she has an eating disorder but it stems from her internal conflicts.  As I watched, I became emotional and just wanted to hug her.  When Dr. Phil introduced her Mom she had this look on her face that said, " Whatever."  She would not come up on stage because WHY??? she does not like to be  the center of attention!!  Lady, you are the center of attention because I beleive you are a major part of Jessica's problem.  When her daughter is openly sad and scared, and dying.... not one tear as the camera showed her reaction.  Shame on her.  As a mother, when my children are sad or upset, I want to make the hurt go away.

Lastly,  I understand the sister said they are not a family that openly says , "I love you"... learn to say it and show it before it is too late.

 
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June 18, 2008, 7:38 pm PDT

I agree

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Jessica is a sad girl that has never felt loved in her life!!  Yes, she has an eating disorder but it stems from her internal conflicts.  As I watched, I became emotional and just wanted to hug her.  When Dr. Phil introduced her Mom she had this look on her face that said, " Whatever."  She would not come up on stage because WHY??? she does not like to be  the center of attention!!  Lady, you are the center of attention because I beleive you are a major part of Jessica's problem.  When her daughter is openly sad and scared, and dying.... not one tear as the camera showed her reaction.  Shame on her.  As a mother, when my children are sad or upset, I want to make the hurt go away.

Lastly,  I understand the sister said they are not a family that openly says , "I love you"... learn to say it and show it before it is too late.

It felt as though her mother were "disappointed" in her.
I read a book a long time ago that spoke about parental expectations. When we are always correcting our children or always explaining what they did wrong instead of talking to them about what they do right--they feel like failures. They take on that "desperate need for approval/validation--fear of rejection" character. Always feeling "not good enough." So if there's a mom who never validates her love--then I would think you're definitely going to have issues--
ESPECIALLY if the child's primary love language is "word affirmation!"
It's a shame to be so prideful and selfish, and fearful, that you can't even bring yourself to say "I love you" to your very own child whose begging you for it. What a shame! And, if that child actually has disappointed a mother because she didn't meet her unrealistic expectations and "conditions" to her love and approval, then it seems it could become a way of punishing her for not living up to them???? Sad. So sad. Too bad Jessica's mom didn't take the stage. Something tells me she knew she'd be questioned and she wasn't willing ot take responsibility for her part.
Jessica is so incredibly sweet I can't imagine a mother not being so proud of her--just the person she is, and her good heart. I pray she will become the mother she always wished she had, someday. I did.
 
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June 20, 2008, 5:15 pm PDT

To Jessica:

 Jessica,  You have a beautiful heart!!! You WILL get through this! Put your trust in the Lord, decide to make the right choices from now on and you Will get Through this!
 
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June 22, 2008, 7:17 am PDT

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If your daughter is "crying" because she isn't getting her way, such as going to counseling when she doesn't want to, I don't see any sense in "crying" along with her. Wouldn't that be counter-productive? Not too sure that "counselor" would be much "help" to your daughter, anyway. Getting onto you for not crying? Seems rather unprofessional to me. Shouldn't she have asked your daughter why she was crying? The counselor could've used the "reason" for your daughter's "tears" to assess her "readiness" for treatment.

Thankyou for understanding.  I agree.  I am learning to accept her unconditionally and not focus solely on the anorexia.  (I wish I could sue that counsellour for 5 trillion dollars!!!  And I have never sued anyone yet.) 

 

My daughter is not in counselling at this time, but is a practicing anorexic.  On a possitive note... she is now eating 2 times a day and making better food choices.  And she calls herself an anorexic which before she was in denial and  would not admit she was anorexic.  I try to be subtle when I try to help her and make her think she thought of it herself.  I bought this magazine that had an anorexia article and left it around the house, but NOT in her room.  And she found it and CAME TO ME and said:  Hey Mom did you see in this magazine?  Olivia Newton John's daughter had anorexia.  I said:  WHAT?  What are you talking about?  And she told me all about it and I said  Wow really?  (She is her own person and has got to make her own decisions or they don't stick and it's like pulling teeth or worse.)  Anorexics choose to be friends and close to those who SUPPORT and don't criticize their anorexia.  And CLOSE OUT those who don't to GREAT EXTREMES.  It is a lifestyle of lying and secretiveness.  And this is the reason for the coldness.  But today I am preparing for her birthday party this week.  I got lots of little surprizes planned I hope she likes.... and I am making her one of those doll cakes.... (My grandma made me one of those every year and decorated... perhaps childish, but a tradition I looked forward too.)....

 

......Just hoping for the day when you don't have to worry, wonder or have any heartache about anything...

 
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June 22, 2008, 3:55 pm PDT

something to possibly think about...

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Thankyou for understanding.  I agree.  I am learning to accept her unconditionally and not focus solely on the anorexia.  (I wish I could sue that counsellour for 5 trillion dollars!!!  And I have never sued anyone yet.) 

 

My daughter is not in counselling at this time, but is a practicing anorexic.  On a possitive note... she is now eating 2 times a day and making better food choices.  And she calls herself an anorexic which before she was in denial and  would not admit she was anorexic.  I try to be subtle when I try to help her and make her think she thought of it herself.  I bought this magazine that had an anorexia article and left it around the house, but NOT in her room.  And she found it and CAME TO ME and said:  Hey Mom did you see in this magazine?  Olivia Newton John's daughter had anorexia.  I said:  WHAT?  What are you talking about?  And she told me all about it and I said  Wow really?  (She is her own person and has got to make her own decisions or they don't stick and it's like pulling teeth or worse.)  Anorexics choose to be friends and close to those who SUPPORT and don't criticize their anorexia.  And CLOSE OUT those who don't to GREAT EXTREMES.  It is a lifestyle of lying and secretiveness.  And this is the reason for the coldness.  But today I am preparing for her birthday party this week.  I got lots of little surprizes planned I hope she likes.... and I am making her one of those doll cakes.... (My grandma made me one of those every year and decorated... perhaps childish, but a tradition I looked forward too.)....

 

......Just hoping for the day when you don't have to worry, wonder or have any heartache about anything...

After reading your response I was struggling with whether to respond or not. Mostly because it sounds like your daughter is really starting to do well and you two are working together in this, and I didn't want to shed a negative light on that. But I feel compelled to point out something I read in your post because I think it could be important enough to your daughter. Just something for you to possibly think about. *smile*
Please know that I think it is awesome how far the 2 of you have come and I wish you all the best, in hopes that this will be resolved and daughter goes on to be a healthy and happy young lady!
What I noticed is that you seem to be feeling it is important for her to make "discoveries" on her own. I fully agree with your strategy! Only, what concerns me is that you are "planting" the info for her (still nothing wrong with this either!)...but then you are deceptive once she comes to you about it. I honestly don't think you've seen it in this light and i do not think you intend any harm--I also don't think it is your intention to even be deceitful! That's why I am brave enough to mention it--I just don't think you are realizing this.
You go on to say how the disease is about lying and secrets.....
Can you see how your pretending to not know anything about it could possibly backfire? She may feel she can justify her deception and secrets since it this same behavior is being modeled (even if it is unintentional!) to her. I hope this makes some sense.
I am not trying to make you feel bad--I personally think you just don't realize it---I am only thinking of your daughter and how it could backfire if she discovers you planted and then were deceptive about it.
Maybe simply admitting that you'd seen it, or had read about it, and then quickly asking her "what it was about or what she thought about it. Then letting her lead the conversation from there---allowing HER to elaborate on the stories, etc., would be more productive??? Just a thought.
I wish you both the very best!
 
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June 24, 2008, 2:15 pm PDT

Thank You

As I read the message board, it took me awhile to decide if I wanted to write my thoughts.  My intentions for leaving my thoughts on this message board are in hopes to let anyone suffering from and eating disorder will start to believe they can beat ED! 

I am winning my battle against ED, thanks to fantastic help offered from Dr Phil and the Center for Change in Orem UT.

 

I can finally say I am living my life without Ed.  I do have my daily struggles, when Ed creeps into my mind everyone and while, but I am learning to ignore him and realize, I have control and can tell him to SHUT UP! I want to thank everyone for you words of support and encouragement.  Some of the expressions said about my mother were words I would have never wanted anyone to use – My mom loves me and I know that- it’s just shown in ways the world may not understand-

Thank you Center for Change and Dr Phil, you gave me my life back- I will forever be grateful.

 

Jessica Mills

 
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June 24, 2008, 6:09 pm PDT

Glad you posted!

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As I read the message board, it took me awhile to decide if I wanted to write my thoughts.  My intentions for leaving my thoughts on this message board are in hopes to let anyone suffering from and eating disorder will start to believe they can beat ED! 

I am winning my battle against ED, thanks to fantastic help offered from Dr Phil and the Center for Change in Orem UT.

 

I can finally say I am living my life without Ed.  I do have my daily struggles, when Ed creeps into my mind everyone and while, but I am learning to ignore him and realize, I have control and can tell him to SHUT UP! I want to thank everyone for you words of support and encouragement.  Some of the expressions said about my mother were words I would have never wanted anyone to use My mom loves me and I know that- its just shown in ways the world may not understand-

Thank you Center for Change and Dr Phil, you gave me my life back- I will forever be grateful.

 

Jessica Mills

It's so awesome to hear that you are doing well! Thank you for posting your update. I am sorry if my words about my view of your mother were hurtful, it was not my intention to cause you anymore hurt than what you already had to deal with.
However, I won't apologize for writing them (only that they were hurtful), because I feel what I wrote was truth about the way a mother can have such an impact on her daughter. I hope that my posts help another parent to learn that each child has different "love language" needs, and they are not always the same as our own. Our kids are healthier and happier when their "love language" needs are being met and not ignored, and we shouldn't be selfish and detached from that.
You're an amazing girl, Jessica--you have such compassion for others! I hope you go on to have a wonderful life. Peace, love, and joy be with you always!
 
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June 25, 2008, 9:36 am PDT

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Dear Unpredictable,

 

You wrote:   <<<Now I really don't want to make this a race issue but I don't know a African-American walking this earth who would do this to there body, >>> 

 

Well...as far as a "race issue" it's TOO LATE---you just "created" it!!  RACE was not the issue on this program (nor is it a topic of this particular board).  You really ought to get out from in front of your television more often! ---but Instead of purging, literally, why not go "volunteer" your time with the "less fortunate" than you?

 

Reading your postings  I doubt very much that you demonstrate how to make  <<<a health choice to correct the imperfections>>>.  To be bringing racism into all this a sign of imbalances in your life.

 

You look down your nose at these people: you find it despicable.  Well then please consider----

 

Has there ever been anything about your self you've ever found unlikeable?----

Are you still able to make a quality decision to love yourself, in spite of small imperfections you find?

 

If you still can love your SELF, then please think on this:  Reflect that if "everyone" is so "entitled" (as you say), then how much of  "a reach" would it be?  Can you extend that gracing of entitlement to others?  With the "strength" and the "health of mind you possess" then, certainly -- a person of greatness finds their strength in compassion, somewhere?

 

 

 

 

CALM DOWN BREATHE IN BREATHE OUT, you sound as though your hyper-ventilating. In the end my point still stands, NO AFRICAN-AMERICAN goes on a purge fest because they believe they are too fat. I am happy with who I am and for the record I have no imbalances in my life. You seem very upset, why is that? Everyone is entitled to their opinion, in answer to your question NO there is nothing about myself that I want to change and I can still make that decision to love myself. IT IS WHAT IT IS and this is just sickening!!!!!!

 
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