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October 23, 2006, 4:06 pm PDT

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I am very stressed out, over something my 6 year old son told me last nite... he told me not to tell anyone. His 9 year old 2nd cousin on his fathers side whom he only sees 3 times a year, (they saw each other this weekend, they live a 3 hour drive away, and his mom and I are best friends...) had my son "experiment" with their penis'.  Austin who is 9 and has had this happen to him when he was 6, with another 6 year old boy.   Austin told my son Jaidyn, not to tell anyone (which leads me to believe he knew it was wrong, he also got caught when he was 7 and a half showing his penis to a 5 year old girl and she was showing him her private, he had instigated that and was told then, AGAIN, that privates are your own private, for yourself only to touch and see in the privacy of your own room... so he was talked to about this TWICE already)  Anyhow, sorry to get into details but, Austin had Jaidyn (whom again is only 6), giving and receiving a hand job, blow job and anal intercourse (now I am not sure if during the intercourse they "got it in" or just tried, and if they did get it in, how many times it penetrated, I am just in tears over this)  I was clearly in shock when Jaidyn told me this, and I at first told Jaidyn that that was pretty silly, and remember how I told you, privates where OK to touch but only for you to touch and in the privacy of your own room/bathroom, he said "oh ya, I forgot"... I asked him how they touched each others penis' by holding up my finger and he stroked it from the bottom to the top (I almost puked, had instant knots in my stomach) and again told him that was silly and told him to get ready for bed... as he was doing that, I got my husband to come out to the balcony for a smoke and told him what happened, I was in tears, and shaking and dry heaving, it was horrible... my husband told me to call Austin's mom, so I did... she was in shock too, and let me go to talk to him, upon retuning my call, is when she told me about the sex part of all this, for some reason jaidyn didn't tell me that part... while i was waiting for this returned call, I went to tuck jaidyn in for bed, and told him, it was really great of him to tel me this and that he wasn't in trouble at all, and that it is perfectly normal to want to touch and play with your penis.  I told him Austin was older and shouldn't have taught him about that stuff, and explained to him that he sucked on a boys penis, where they pee out of (to try and gross him out form doing that again).  I told him, i needed him to promise me that he wouldn't go and teach anyone else what austin had taught him so he pinky promised(but how do I know he wont) and how do explain to a 6 year old that it's nor mal to touch but not normal to force it upon others, even if jaidyn didn't feel forced by austin, how do i make jaidyn understand that it was SO WRONG what austin did, even though it's so normal to experiment, but Austin did take it past "the line" but how do I let jaidyn know it's OK in any way, even before "the line" what if jaidyn wants to teach someone else before it crosses "the line" how do I teach him that there even is "a line". OMG, I Am so stressed... I feel that Jaidyn was sexually abused because Austin had been talked to about this before and he told Jaidyn not to tell anyone therefore, He KNEW it was wrong... Jaidyn on the other hand, I don't think he feels like he was violated, But I don't know for sure... and Jaidyn will remember this experience for the rest of his life.  I remember my first experiment with a french kiss from when i was 5... how do I make jaidyn feel OK with what has happened to him when he gets older?  I don't want him to grow up with never talking about this again, I want to make sure, he is open and honest with me about sex and his feelings, I want to make sure, he knows not to impose this upon others when he is 9 or any other age for that matter... i don't know where the fine line is for me to talk to him about it because I don't want to be overbearing about it, and have him not want to come to me in the future about anything else that is bothering him and i don't want to not talk about it and try to erase that it happened because it won't get erased, every time he sees Austin it will re-trigger, and they are freaking family, so they will see each other again, even if I dropped my friendship with his mom, his dad would take him to Christmas sinner where austin will be there.

 

My first reaction to this was I wanted to RIP AUSTINS little head of his f**king body and beat the crap out of him, my sister reminded me that he is only 9 and was just experimenting too, even if it did go too far, so I told her ya but he is 9 and he knew it was wrong, he told jaidyn not to tell anyone and her reaction to that was ya, but as adults we still do things even though we know it's wrong... I am happy for her input and it did calm me down but, I still don't want jaidyn to ever see austin again and I still think that if this happened to her son, she wouldn't be seeing the lighter side of things, and it is not realistic of me to have jaidyn NEVER see austin again...

 

My main concern is how do I keep my son from teaching other kids about this, and also how can I keep him from feeling like he was molested my Austin as he gets older.  Even by just reinforcing to him not to do what austin did, may make jaidyn feel like he was abused, maybe he won't "get that" right now at 6, but maybe he will later... should he get counseling for it now, or should it be when he feels like he is a victim, can i prevent him from feeling like a victim... and how do I tel him to get counseling when he confided in me, won't that make him feel like he can never come to me again, because I will make him see a counselor and make him share his story with a complete stranger, (when he doesn't even feel like it was wrong, (for now) what austin did to him) how do I visit austins mom (obviously not with jaidyn anytime soon if ever) when austin is there, how do i treat him the same when I feel he abused my baby, how do i not ignore him, or give him dirty looks, or yell at him, when i do see him??? 

 

I hate that this happened, sorry for the long vent, but I really could use other peoples opinions and experiences if this or something like this has happened to them or their children... I mean, I experimented as a kid, but I was older and it never got that far :'(

 yes, your child was sexually abused and I can bet that the other child has been also. Maybe he was just experimenting, whatever, it is still wrong and no way would I allow the two boys together alone.

I think you need to realize that the other boy is a kid and chances are he has been abused and hopefully his parents will talk to him about where he was taught about this, they really do ned to know. Don't hate the kid just be cautious and alert., you have to protect your child the best that you can.

keep an eye on your son and maybe even read some books to him about respecting our bodies and stuff like that, keep the communication lines open and watch for signs of abuse, might not even hurt to see a therapist at this point, better to catch while they are little then 10, 20 years down the line.

 
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October 23, 2006, 4:11 pm PDT

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My husband and I were in our bedroom and I was performing oral sex on him when our 10 year old son walked in on us. With a disgusted tone in his voice he said "what are you doing?" I was so embarrassed I could not say anything. My husband talked to him about what he saw, however I was not a part of the conversation. This happened lastnight and I have not said anything to my son about it. I cannot quit thinking about what happened and feel sick to my stomach whenever I do.

 

I would like to get as many opinions on whether I should talk to my son about it, or just leave it alone. Please tell me what you think I should do, if anything.

 

Sick to my Stomach.

What is his attitude towards you right now? Do you get the feeling that he is thinking about it when he sees you  or thinking bad things about it? if so, then it wouldn't hurt to talk to him, let him know that husbands and wives do things together that even though he doesn't understand it is ok.

Remind him, that it is respectful to knock before entering your bedroom and if you can maybe lock the door so he can't walk in on you.
 
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October 23, 2006, 9:23 pm PDT

When to tell my 5 year old son

I am unsure when I should tell my son he has half siblings from my husband and his previous wife. And also that I was married before I married his dad. My husband and I are pretty traditional in our beliefs in raising the kids. We want our kids to get married first before having children, and to hopefully only marry once. Yet, we both were married prior. I have a 13 year old, who has only known my husband as her dad since she was 6. She knows the truth about the "father" that  was never there, and chooses to call my husband her dad. My husband has 2 children, who, he does not see after many court battles with a vengeful ex wife. We then had 2 more children, 5 and 2 years. My 5 and 2 year old do not know that their mommy and daddy were ever married before, or that they have any half-siblings. My son believes that we also got married before we got pregnant, but we did not. They also know my oldest daughter as their sister, as my husband's daughter. I am unsure when I should tell my children of the history. I do not want them to feel like the rug was pulled under them. I like that they have this "picture perfect" idea of their family, but I am starting to wonder if I have done the right thing. If and when I tell them, there will be more questions, and I am unsure how to answer them while still giving them the role model of a family that we believe they should strive for. My 13 year old also does not talk about it to them, and I do not know if this is healthy. I also do not want her to feel any different if they are told. Any ideas when is an appropriate age to tell this, and how to hanld it? Thanks.
 
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October 31, 2006, 10:53 am PST

3 year in School

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I'm new to Dr.Phil's message board.

 

Here is my concern.   I have a 3 year daughter who is in school.  This is her second year.  She moved to the next class.  Well the problem I'm having is she talks to much in class, she wants to control the class and the other children and the teacher.  Alero knew her ABC & Colors and could count at 2.  She loves books.  For the last week the teacher said Alero had to have a time out.  Alero does have a strong personality and a conversation for a 3 year old.  I'm a first time Mother age 44.  I wonder if she bored or just being a little controling. I just want her to know she has to follow directions in school.   Her father thinks she is just being a 3 year old.  Also Alero is the youngest in the class.  Please share some thought with me.

 

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October 31, 2006, 6:59 pm PST

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Good morning,

 

 

I'm new to Dr.Phil's message board.

 

Here is my concern.   I have a 3 year daughter who is in school.  This is her second year.  She moved to the next class.  Well the problem I'm having is she talks to much in class, she wants to control the class and the other children and the teacher.  Alero knew her ABC & Colors and could count at 2.  She loves books.  For the last week the teacher said Alero had to have a time out.  Alero does have a strong personality and a conversation for a 3 year old.  I'm a first time Mother age 44.  I wonder if she bored or just being a little controling. I just want her to know she has to follow directions in school.   Her father thinks she is just being a 3 year old.  Also Alero is the youngest in the class.  Please share some thought with me.

 

Ythankful

 I don't htink she wants to take control, I think she is being three. Yes, she needs to listen to teachers and parents but yet at the same time, remember, she is only three. When I taught in childcare centers, I would allow the kids to hold a baby doll or stuff animal during storytime and tell them that they would need to help that baby/animal sit very still during the story, it helped.

They do need to learn rules and boundaries and a time out should not be be overdone and a child really shouldn't have to sit for a time out, a time out should be, time away from the group as they are probably more of a disturbance then anything. The teacher will have to be able to hold the other children's attention while the one in time out is over in the corner doing her own thing but trust me, in time the one doing their own thing is gonna want back in the group and then the teacher can talk to her about the rules and you as the parent need to talk to her as well.

3 year olds need constant reminders of the rules, and with consistency and communication, she will catch on. persoanlly I wouldn't worry about it but do the things mentioned and see what happens and of course patience is a good thing to have.

I became a mom at 37 and 39 and I love it. and my youngest is 3, she is a sweet little girl but one stubborn one as well, gotta be a bit stern with her at times but really, it isn't all that bad, she is only 3...................
 
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November 14, 2006, 4:29 am PST

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 yes, your child was sexually abused and I can bet that the other child has been also. Maybe he was just experimenting, whatever, it is still wrong and no way would I allow the two boys together alone.

I think you need to realize that the other boy is a kid and chances are he has been abused and hopefully his parents will talk to him about where he was taught about this, they really do ned to know. Don't hate the kid just be cautious and alert., you have to protect your child the best that you can.

keep an eye on your son and maybe even read some books to him about respecting our bodies and stuff like that, keep the communication lines open and watch for signs of abuse, might not even hurt to see a therapist at this point, better to catch while they are little then 10, 20 years down the line.

my two kids are 8 and 5 they keep on fighting with each other
i don't know what to do with them is there any other person
who has the same problem with there kid fighting i need some
advice how to keep them from killing each other
 
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November 15, 2006, 5:00 am PST

1 toy per child

hello im writing today to see what other parents and grandparents may think of what my grandsons mom left at my door yesterday. its a letter saying christmas is coming and her and her husband have came up with the idea that all grandparents starting this christmas and all to follow are allowed to purchase one toy per child is the limit. this does not include clothing,books,movies, video games for the playstation 2 and other non-toy items. the letter also states most family members may know that her husband set up a savings account for the boys, but since they do not feel comfortable giving out the account # they would gladly deposit the money we would give them. i do want you to know that my son is not married to my grandsons mom she has been married to another guy for about 4 years now. they too have a child between them whom we also love and adore even though hes not ours by blood he is ours by heart so to speak he is a great kid, fun loving  and he calls me nana and my husband papa. and as far as the savings accounts go i feel like she doesnt feel comfortable to give us the account #like she thinks we would go steal the kids money our something. please let me know if im a overreacting grandma or what. should i tell her how we feel i have already bought their gifts this year i got them a few educational toys a set of book. i got them a set of hot wheels a remote control car apiece and clothes, underpants pj's etc. should i return my gifts. my husband is saying he doesn't even want to go  to there house now. please let me know what you all think parents and grandparents alike
 
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November 15, 2006, 9:42 am PST

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hello im writing today to see what other parents and grandparents may think of what my grandsons mom left at my door yesterday. its a letter saying christmas is coming and her and her husband have came up with the idea that all grandparents starting this christmas and all to follow are allowed to purchase one toy per child is the limit. this does not include clothing,books,movies, video games for the playstation 2 and other non-toy items. the letter also states most family members may know that her husband set up a savings account for the boys, but since they do not feel comfortable giving out the account # they would gladly deposit the money we would give them. i do want you to know that my son is not married to my grandsons mom she has been married to another guy for about 4 years now. they too have a child between them whom we also love and adore even though hes not ours by blood he is ours by heart so to speak he is a great kid, fun loving  and he calls me nana and my husband papa. and as far as the savings accounts go i feel like she doesnt feel comfortable to give us the account #like she thinks we would go steal the kids money our something. please let me know if im a overreacting grandma or what. should i tell her how we feel i have already bought their gifts this year i got them a few educational toys a set of book. i got them a set of hot wheels a remote control car apiece and clothes, underpants pj's etc. should i return my gifts. my husband is saying he doesn't even want to go  to there house now. please let me know what you all think parents and grandparents alike

Well, sounds like you pretty well stayed on target, books and clothing do not count, Right? Maybe give them one of the educational toys and the remote control car. I would think paretns would be happy for their kids to receive the educational things, you can always keep things back for bdays, and the following year. I would just give it to him and not worry aout it. I think not going just because of this is a little petty but that is your and your hubby's decission to make. Christmas isn't about how many toys you buy some one, The money thing, I wouldn't worry about that either, if you want to give the kids money do it, Pesonally I think not giving the account number is the right thing to do, not every one needs to know it, I think the parents are the only one who needs to have it, as long as the money is actually getting intot he right account.
 
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November 15, 2006, 9:46 am PST

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my two kids are 8 and 5 they keep on fighting with each other
i don't know what to do with them is there any other person
who has the same problem with there kid fighting i need some
advice how to keep them from killing each other
I.m sure all kids fight. My girls are only 5 and 3 and they certainly have their moments. I seperate them, They have to got ot different paarts of the house when they fight and I tell them if they can't get  long then they don't need to be together, it lasts for a little while and then they are back apologizing and getting a long. We also have discussions on getting along and why we should get a long, we talk about the issue at hand and talk about respect and whatever else. It is norma for themt o fight, just have to finda way for them to think about what they are doing and teach them to resolve their issues which means you are going to have to step up and communicate with them....................
 
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November 19, 2006, 9:54 am PST

Need Advice

I'm having problems with my daughter.  She is 4 years old and will be 5 in June.  I am a stay at home mom and only worked her first year of life, I've been home with her ever since.  She loves music and loves to dance so we enrolled her in a dance class.  She did really good the first several weeks then they did a dance to the monster mash song and she was scared by the music.  She cried and wanted me.  Now every time we go to dance she will do good for about 20 minutes while they do the normal activites.  As soon as her teacher says they are going to learn a new dance or do something unfamiliar she begins to cry and wants me.  She has never been in a class like this before so I think she gets very nervous but she doesn't know what nervous is.  When I ask her why she is crying she says she is just tired but as soon as they do a dance that she knows she gets up and does the dance.  Even when she does a dance she knows and likes she will not go back on the floor with the other students. 

 

Please help.  My husband wants to withdraw her from the class because she is such a distraction but I don't think that would be the right thing to do.  I don't want her to think when she feels this way she can cry and mom and dad will take her out of the situation.  I know she needs to learn everything will be okay but at her age what can I do?  Her class is kind of big, there are about 11 girls her age.  I have wondered if I should move her into a smaller class but again I don't want to move her around alot. 

 

ANY ADVICE WOULD BE WONDERFUL!! 

 
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