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Topic : 11/09 Debate Dr. Phil and the Bishop

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From a celebrity’s controversial meltdown caught on tape to nooses cropping up around the country, Dr. Phil and Bishop T.D. Jakes tackle tough racial issues. First up, Dog the Bounty Hunter spewed slurs in a phone conversation with his son, Tucker, and used the N-word repeatedly when referring to Tucker’s black girlfriend, Monique. Monique’s mother, Linda Shinnery, joins the Dr. Phil show via satellite and says she was appalled by Dog’s tirade. Should the reality TV star lose his job over a private conversation? Civil rights activist Al Sharpton, rapper Master P, and BET correspondent Jeff Johnson weigh in. Then, nooses, a symbol of hatred for African-Americans, are cropping up more and more across the country – from Jena, Louisiana to Columbia University in New York. Najee Ali, founder and co-director of Project Islamic Hope, shares his views on empowering the black community and combating stereotypes. Don’t miss this intense debate about racism and sensitivity in America, and find out how you can educate your children. Join the discussion.

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November 9, 2007, 1:32 pm PST

Give Dog his show back

I think Dog is really sorry!  I love his show and I feel like of all the good things he does for Hawaii and our country we should forgive him....I forgive you DOG!!!  He was having a PRIVATE conversation with his son and said some bad things.  Who hasn't taken it a little too far when you are upset with one of your kids.  I think his son should be ashamed of himself, I know I don't know the whole story, but that was wrong to turn you father in for that.  I hope A&E puts his show back on the air!! 
 
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November 9, 2007, 1:33 pm PST

Give the man a break.

This is so stupid that everyone is so down on Dog.  He is human.  He makes mistakes like everyone else. So he is not politically correct all the time...who is?  It is an unfortunate incident but I'm not willing to completely condemn him for it.  I think what he was saying is that Tucker's girlfriend was willing to cause trouble in the family at anyone's expense and Dog was not willing to take that chance with his kids and their future.   I can't believe his son was so greedy that he would plan to tape a conversation ahead of time and sell it to the Enquirerer.  He needs to grow up.  In my eyes Dog is forgiven.  A&E is no longer allowed in my house until his show is put back on the air. 
 
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November 9, 2007, 1:33 pm PST

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i think this whole thing is a mess. i mean we can say bitch, ass, and damn on tv but when we say the n- word its bad. i have been in the ghetto before and alot of people call eachother that all the time even if they are white... but whats the difference if he calls her that then calling her a bitch.... would that have been better??? would the newspapers take that?? they would have on your show dr. phil. so whats the difference???? and how could they tape the conversation... its my understanding that we have to tell people when they are getting recorded arent we???? why hasnt that been and issue yet? and as far as the dog not coming on the show.. let him do what hes gotta do his way. hes the DOG... every one has to do things on their own they cant be forced... this is one of these things that everyone is trying to blow out of porportion to get money. thats all life is about is money... and bc this tucker son isnt really in dogs life (meaning on his show {getting the famous part of the family like leland and dwanye lee}) hes gotta do what he can to ruin other peoples lives... people call eachother names everyday probobly every minute... what are we supposed to do..... send them tot he new papers too???? its stupid.... people need to take care of their own and need to quit messing up other peoples lives...
 
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November 9, 2007, 1:33 pm PST

Private is Private

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I think that  Dog should get his show back b/c he his a hero to many people and he is one of my heros and he always will be. He made a mistake and we all make misakes its part of who we are. And i as do many people think that he should get his show back. He has one of the best tv shows around.
I don't watch Dog the Bounty Hunter but I think it is terrible for his career to be taken away for a private conversation with his son.  What if the conversation had been about an abortion?  Would A&E cancel him if they heard a recording concerning an abortion.  His son has proven what kind of person he is.  I am ashamed of Dr Phil for taking the position that he has on his program today concerning Dog.  He ignores the fact that it was a private conversation. Could any of us hold up if all of our conversation were made public?  I am sure even Dr Phil has said things in private conversations that he would not want to be made public.  I heard Dog say he was not calling all black people n------, but that is the way he felt about this certain girl.  From the things we have seen and heard in the past few weeks, Dog was right about this girl.
 

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November 9, 2007, 1:33 pm PST

11/09 Debate Dr. Phil and the Bishop

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I am so disgusted by the publicity over the word Dog said in his OWN HOME  on his OWN PHONE and it became public only because his son? sold it for money! Then in comes the "good" Reverend Sharpton as usual to crucify a white man. No wonder Dog didn't show up for the Dr. Phil show! Strange that there are two different sets of rules for what words can be said by blacks and whites! Nonsense!

Where was Reverend Sharpton when two young white students were raped and murdered by four blacks last year in east Tennessee? Sure didn't see him show up for marches or to give caring words for the families of these two white kids! When the black leaders in this country love ALL the people and preach to bring love between all the races then they can bring down the line of racism. As long as Jackson and Sharpton rally around their race with revenge and hate for the whites there will never be a coming together of the races.

 

AND, if the blacks want someone to follow they need to look to Bill Cosby who loves his people and wants goodness to come to them. He raised a proud, educated family which should be a standard for all people. I so admire this man and his beliefs.
 
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November 9, 2007, 1:34 pm PST

we all use the n word at some point

The n word has been used by whites, blacks, and other ethnic groups. wWhen people use that word it doesn't ways mean the slang form of the n word. A white person inmy opinion can be the n word. That is simple for the right mean of it. Just like black people or any toher ethinic group could be the n word. Some one that is Islamic can be the n word. most of the time that people use the word no matter what color that person is they mean as a slang. we are human after all. I personlly was not raised to use that word and I don't like my children to use that word as well or hear it around my home. I can not speak for that is said on the school bus or in school. I just do not allow it and not because of the slang meaning to the word but for that actualy meaning of the word which is in the dictionary for those who need to see if it is in it.

 

As far as DOG goes. Well I like his shows. To me who is studying criminal justice it gives a small insgiht to the criminal justice system. Wither it be fiction or not. His show should go back on the air. As for DOG using the N word well my feeling on this is what goes on in his home is his business not ours and his son shouldn't have sold the story because i feel he was mad at his father. That undermines the family loyalty for the sake of what TV does to peope.

 

When people say things wither they intend to or not people take it out of meaning or take it what ever way they chose. That is why hate crimes con. to this day and we all need to stop. That is why we have terrorist and why people fight amoung each other. We do need to stop. think what we are soing to our kids and what we are teaching them. If we don't stp it now it will cont. on in our kids gemeration and it may get worse.

 
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November 9, 2007, 1:35 pm PST

Dr Phil and the Bishop

Hate is hate .  People like Dog  influence our kids.  They unfortunately hear enough of   it  in the news .  They  are over loaded with  it .  Why can't  people just get  along.  To bad people just couldn't   live and  let  live.
 
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November 9, 2007, 1:35 pm PST

Finally Someone Speaking the Truth

I actually recieved this email awhile back and wanted to pass it along due to this show that was on today. I totally support Dog and think people should GET OFF HIS BACK!!!! I also feel that today Dr. Phil stage something that I never thought I would see him do. I don't blame Dog for not coming on the show simply because of how everything was portrayed on the show, and how the opion deck was stacked against him. In that arena his appolgy would of been mistaken  and fallin on unreceptive ears rather than  being excepted with sincerety of which he gave it. What ever happened to FREEDOM OF SPEECH especially in the privacy of your own home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

How many are actually paying attention to this?
 
There are African Americans, Mexican Americans,
Asian Americans, Arab Americans, Native Americans, etc.
 
And then there are just Americans.
You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.
You Call me "White boy," "Cracker," "Honkey,"
"Whitey," "Caveman" .. and that's OK.
But when I call you, N*****, Kike, Towel head, Sand-n*****,
camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink ... you call me a racist.
You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you,
so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
 
You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day. You
have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day. You have Yom Hashoah
You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi You have the NAACP.
You have BET.
 
If we had WET (White Entertainment Television) .. we'd be racists.
 
If we had a White Pride Day .. you would call us racists.
 
If we had White History Month .. we'd be racists.
 
If we had any organization for only whites to "advance" OUR lives ..
 
we'd be racists.
 
We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and
then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce.
 
Wonder who pays for that?
 
If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships
... you know we'd be racists.
 
There are over 60 openly proclaimed
 
Black Colleges in the US , yet if there were "White colleges" ..
THAT would be a racist college.
In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race
and rights. If we marched for our race and rights,
 
you would call us racists.
 
You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid
to announce it. But when we announce our white pride ..
 
you call us racists.
You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer
shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the
law and posing a threat to society .. you call him a racist.
 
I am proud.
 
But, you call me a racist.
Why is it that only whites can be racists?
There is nothing improper about this statement it only speaks out the truth nothing but the truth!!!!!! 

 
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November 9, 2007, 1:36 pm PST

Get a Clue

Quote From: dreadheadart

I am so sick of whites asking black folk "what do I do to fight racism?"  Come on people.  Whites created race and racism.  They are the racists in society. Racism is race predjedice plus power! Blacks don't have the power to be racist.

 

Since whites created it, it's whites who have to end it. They have to correct all the wrongs that have been done in the name of racism. Most whites don't even think it's a problem.  I am white and I am married to a black man. I see on a daily basis the racism he has to deal with. It's endless!!!!  When I confront whites about their racist behavior, they say they aren't racist. Take a look at where whites live, work, the friends they have, the lovers they have, etc. White, white, white.  They don't want to be around Blacks.  We have white flight going on in our neighborhood right now. It's happening every where!! 

 

Whites need to get over themselves and get honest. The majority of whites are racist. Polls say it, studies say it, the census says it!  You benefit from white privilege every day and to say you don't means you're lying!  Get out there and correct this! 

First of all you have no right saying that whites created racism. The muslims created the slave trade. Africans sold there own people into slavery. In my opinion blacks are more likely to be racist than whites. You do not hear white people calling themselves European American, so why do blacks call themselves African American? Also if a white person tries to get food stamps or welfare for whatever reason and the people behind the desk are black then the white person will get dirty looks and most likely will be helped last or not at all. This is coming from my personal experiene and from some close friends and family members. Most black people think that only they should get finacial help. How can you say that whites are privilaged? There are so many scholorships that help out every other race but white. Blacks and other races get away with a lot more than white people, because they throw the biggest fits. The reason why white people do not want to be around many black people is because most of them are trashy. I do not believe that to be a racist comment beacuse statisticly it is true. Black people are more likely to be on welfare,be in gangs, use drugs, speak unclearly, and so on. I am not racist I just don't like trashy people.That includes white trash. My own mother is white trash and I hate it. I do not think that there is any reason for anybosy to be that way. It is black people who need to get over themselves and stop throwing rasism at people and just live good lives. If they did not give white people a reason to be racist than things would be better for everyone.

 

Now about the N word. Black people use the word but throw a huge fit the moment a white person does. Black people also call whites things like cracker and vanilla head, and that is not considered racism.

 
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November 9, 2007, 1:36 pm PST

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 I am very disappointed in Dr Phil. He has thrown Dog under the bus. Never knew him to be so judgemental before. Shame on you, Dr Phil!!

What I found to be upsetting about the show was the one guest I can't remeber his name kind of trashed DOG and he wasn't there to defend himself wither he chose to be there or not. That wasn't right. That surprised me from the show. I normally like Dr. Phil.

 
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