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From a celebrity’s controversial meltdown caught on tape to nooses cropping up around the country, Dr. Phil and Bishop T.D. Jakes tackle tough racial issues. First up, Dog the Bounty Hunter spewed slurs in a phone conversation with his son, Tucker, and used the N-word repeatedly when referring to Tucker’s black girlfriend, Monique. Monique’s mother, Linda Shinnery, joins the Dr. Phil show via satellite and says she was appalled by Dog’s tirade. Should the reality TV star lose his job over a private conversation? Civil rights activist Al Sharpton, rapper Master P, and BET correspondent Jeff Johnson weigh in. Then, nooses, a symbol of hatred for African-Americans, are cropping up more and more across the country – from Jena, Louisiana to Columbia University in New York. Najee Ali, founder and co-director of Project Islamic Hope, shares his views on empowering the black community and combating stereotypes. Don’t miss this intense debate about racism and sensitivity in America, and find out how you can educate your children. Join the discussion.

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November 9, 2007, 2:00 pm PST

11/09 Debate Dr. Phil and the Bishop

Quote From: blueiz71

Hate to tell you, but there's no white heratage month either.  And to have an all white club, group, or anything else is considered racist. No all white colleges, no grants based on simply being white, no white student union or all white frat houses.....that's racist.
Habitual offenders, scumbag lawyers with agendas
I'll tell you sometimes people I don't know what's worse
Natural disasters or these wolves in sheep clothes pastors
Now damn it I'm scared to send my children to church
And how can we seek salvation when our nations race relations
Got me feeling guilty of being white
But faith in human nature, our creator and our savior, I'm no saint
But I believe in what is right

C'mon now amen, amen
I said amen, amen

Stop pointing fingers and take some blame,
Pull your future away from the flame
Open up your mind and start to live
Stop short changing your neighbors
Living off hand outs and favors, and maybe
Give a little bit more than you got to give

 
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November 9, 2007, 2:01 pm PST

Read, read, read!

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First of all you have no right saying that whites created racism. The muslims created the slave trade. Africans sold there own people into slavery. In my opinion blacks are more likely to be racist than whites. You do not hear white people calling themselves European American, so why do blacks call themselves African American? Also if a white person tries to get food stamps or welfare for whatever reason and the people behind the desk are black then the white person will get dirty looks and most likely will be helped last or not at all. This is coming from my personal experiene and from some close friends and family members. Most black people think that only they should get finacial help. How can you say that whites are privilaged? There are so many scholorships that help out every other race but white. Blacks and other races get away with a lot more than white people, because they throw the biggest fits. The reason why white people do not want to be around many black people is because most of them are trashy. I do not believe that to be a racist comment beacuse statisticly it is true. Black people are more likely to be on welfare,be in gangs, use drugs, speak unclearly, and so on. I am not racist I just don't like trashy people.That includes white trash. My own mother is white trash and I hate it. I do not think that there is any reason for anybosy to be that way. It is black people who need to get over themselves and stop throwing rasism at people and just live good lives. If they did not give white people a reason to be racist than things would be better for everyone.

 

Now about the N word. Black people use the word but throw a huge fit the moment a white person does. Black people also call whites things like cracker and vanilla head, and that is not considered racism.

There is so much wrong with what you said that I don' t have the time to go into it all. I will just suggest to get facts and stop getting information from tv. I mentioned some books in a previous post. I suggest you start there because you are very ignorant about the issues!!!!
 
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November 9, 2007, 2:01 pm PST

THE DOG

I THINK ALL OF THIS STUFF THAT IS GOING ON WITH DUANE DOG CHAPMAN IS STUPID. He has said that he i sorry and he ment it. leave dog alone. also i think if any one black, white or what ever color you are can use racial surlies that leaves it open for everyone else. so does it mean sence i have used the n word that means i should have my life turned upside down. no it is just a word he was having a privet talk with his son and it should not be in the public eye. he was a father talking to his son and the talk should not of been recorded and sold for money that was very worng of tucker and he should have to deal with this too. the only people that is having to deal with this is dog and beth not everyone envloved with this and all the others are do is making it worse on dog. the word is not polite but it was a talk between him and his son he was not talking to tucker girlfriend. i think that all of this needs to be droped and leave it alone there are millions of people in the world that use the n word so if you are going to go after dog for the covertaion that was privet then you need to tap every one in the world and have them in the public eye for useing the word.

 

this is not right to make a big deal out of this remember it is just a word in the english language and is translated into many different things.

 
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November 9, 2007, 2:02 pm PST

Finally

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I actually recieved this email awhile back and wanted to pass it along due to this show that was on today. I totally support Dog and think people should GET OFF HIS BACK!!!! I also feel that today Dr. Phil stage something that I never thought I would see him do. I don't blame Dog for not coming on the show simply because of how everything was portrayed on the show, and how the opion deck was stacked against him. In that arena his appolgy would of been mistaken  and fallin on unreceptive ears rather than  being excepted with sincerety of which he gave it. What ever happened to FREEDOM OF SPEECH especially in the privacy of your own home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

How many are actually paying attention to this?
 
There are African Americans, Mexican Americans,
Asian Americans, Arab Americans, Native Americans, etc.
 
And then there are just Americans.
You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction.
You Call me "White boy," "Cracker," "Honkey,"
"Whitey," "Caveman" .. and that's OK.
But when I call you, N*****, Kike, Towel head, Sand-n*****,
camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink ... you call me a racist.
You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you,
so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
 
You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day. You
have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day. You have Yom Hashoah
You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi You have the NAACP.
You have BET.
 
If we had WET (White Entertainment Television) .. we'd be racists.
 
If we had a White Pride Day .. you would call us racists.
 
If we had White History Month .. we'd be racists.
 
If we had any organization for only whites to "advance" OUR lives ..
 
we'd be racists.
 
We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and
then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce.
 
Wonder who pays for that?
 
If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships
... you know we'd be racists.
 
There are over 60 openly proclaimed
 
Black Colleges in the US , yet if there were "White colleges" ..
THAT would be a racist college.
In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race
and rights. If we marched for our race and rights,
 
you would call us racists.
 
You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid
to announce it. But when we announce our white pride ..
 
you call us racists.
You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer
shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the
law and posing a threat to society .. you call him a racist.
 
I am proud.
 
But, you call me a racist.
Why is it that only whites can be racists?
There is nothing improper about this statement it only speaks out the truth nothing but the truth!!!!!! 

I am glad that someone is saying this besides me. I totally agree with you. Blacks like to claim racism all the time but it is them who make us this way. Why can't the blacks understand that Muslims started the slave trade and it was Africans selling their own people into slavery so they need to quit bitching about slavery. I am not white and I am not a racist I just hate trashy people.
 
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November 9, 2007, 2:03 pm PST

Dog and Tucker

So now we have to watch what we say in private, too? Dog was having a conversation with his son (Tucker) and didn't know that Tucker was taping it! 

 

I do believe that Dog is sorry for what he said. We all talk differently in private than we do in public.  I am sure that Reverend Al and Dr. Jakes do also. 

 

Dog has done a wonderful job of helping out the criminal justice system in the U.S. and the thought of his show being cancelled over something like this is ridiculous. 

 

I want to see a Dr. Phil Show that features a son selling out his famous Dad for 15G of smack!!

 
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November 9, 2007, 2:05 pm PST

What the heck are you thinking?

With all this nonsense going on and on about Dog, where is the righteous, every man is equal, self-appointed saint Rev. Sharpton when a white person is called a honkey or a cracker on national television?  Who stands up and causes this much fuss when a white person is torn down by words from another ethnicity?  Dog has apologized and knows he was wrong.  Let the man be for God sakes.  Find something else to harp on for awhile.  Every time something happens with a celebrity, white or black, it's thrust into the spotlight and talked about for weeks, sometimes even months.  It's pathetic.  Let the man do his job of bringing filth of our streets and leave him be.  As for Rev. ever so righteous, let me see you in the news and on every station standing up for a person besides "the black man" if you think everyone is so equal.  I'm sure if someone were to dig deep enough, they would find skeletons in everyone's closet, because everyone has a past.  For you to pick out the csaes that only make national headlines proves that you want nothing but to be famous off of what other people are doing or going through.  You sicken me and I hope beyond hope that you will know what it's like when someone rains down on you from another ethnicity for saying or doing something that you didn't think was inappropriate at the time.  I think you are the one that should be banned from all television and thrust out on the streets where you are not so protected by your so called rights.  You are a very sad and pathetic man. 
 
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November 9, 2007, 2:08 pm PST

BIRTH CONTROL IN SCHOOL

THIS IS NOT CRAZY THEY NEED BIRTH CONTROL IN EVERY SCHOOL THE FIRST TIME I HAD SEX  WAS WHEN I WAS 11 YEARS OLD WITH ANOTHER BOY THAT WAS THE SAME AGE NEITHER OF US HAD SEX SO WE WERENT WORRIED ABOUT STD'S BECAUSE WE BOTH KNEW WE HAVE NEVER HAD SEX BEFORE I WAS A LITTLE GIRL I WAS SO SCARED I THOUGHT I WAS PREGNANT WELL MY POINT IS YOUNG GIRLS ARE GOING TO HAVE SEX WHEN THEY WANT TEENAGE GIRLS DONT LISSEN TO THERE PARENTS ANYWAYS THEY SURE WOULDNT ASK THERE PARENTS IF THEY CAN OR FOR ADVICE ABOUT HAVING SEX  WHATS WRONG WITH GIVING THEM BIRTH CONTROL ITS NOT SAYING HERE GO HAVE SEX ITS SIMPLY SAYING THAT IF YOU DO HAVE SEX OR WHEN YOU DO YOU WILL BE PROTECTED IN THAT WAY BECAUSE US GIRLS DO WHAT WE WANT WHEN WE WANT AND WE EVEN SOMETIMES DO THING INSPITE OF OUR PARENTS.  TEENS GET PREGNANT ALL THE TIME THEY EITHER HAVE ABORTIONS GIVE THEM UP FOR ADOPTION OR STRUGGLE RAISING THEM SO WHY NOT HAVE THAT FOR THEM THESE GIRLS THAT GET PREGNANT FEEL LIKE THEY CANT GO ASK THERE PARENTS TO GET THEM BIRTH CONTROL SO IF THEY HAVE IT AT SCHOOL OR PLANNED PARENTHOOD ITS GREAT THIS SCHOOL IS A GREAT SCHOOL THEY REALLY CARE ABOUT THESE KIDS TO STEP IN AND SAY WERE HERE AND THEY ARE GETTTING PREMISSION FROM THE PARENTS TO BEEN SEEN SO THATS THE PARENTS CHOICE. I HAVE 3 LITTLE GIRLS AND IF THEY CAN COME TO ME I WANT THEM TO HAVE SOMEONE THEY CAN GO TO

 
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November 9, 2007, 2:08 pm PST

Dod/Bounter Hunter

This was a private conversation.  I was ashamed I heard it.  It is none of my business.

 

I still do not know what prompted his comments. If The Dog is racist I do not want to watch his show, ever again.  If he acknowledges he said inappropriate slurs, in private, out of anger, about things that we, the public know nothing...I hope he gets help.

 

Racism and anger are both wrong.  If one is guilty of either:  keep it away from me.  Get help.

 

I am not qualified to judge a private conversation and I resent anyone who thinks they are.

 
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November 9, 2007, 2:08 pm PST

Love, not hate

First of all, I love Dog's show... But what he said is awful, and I lost a lot of respect for him b/c of it. I honestly do not think he should be fired for something he said in a private conversation though. If that happens, where would it end? Every single person in this country would be discredited in some way, because everyone says something, at some time, that is offensive to someone out there- whether it be about their race, gender, socioeconomic status, sexual orientation, or even hair color (yes, I actually have seen blondes get PISSED AS HELL about blonde jokes). Everyone in the world would be carrying around a damn tape recorder, just hoping to catch something! WHERE DOES IT END??

Maybe instead of focusing on all this negative, we should be focusing on happiness and joy. Getting out there, living life, and celebrating our differences with our families, friends, and neighbors. It starts in the home. Only when we teach love, peace, and respect will our children learn it. Remember ya'll, hate is NOT a family value. 

 
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November 9, 2007, 2:09 pm PST

rehashing old news

i have watched many talk shows over the years that pretend to deal with the issue of race. in each the host talks about how it is so bad and should be changed. In reality as long as the leaders of the black community continue to make a big fuss about every remark made by celebrities the issue will not go away.

 

It appears to me that the issue is not about race but about blacks .You rarely if ever see issues on the treatment of other nationalities. To hear their black community talk they are the only ones singled out. But if we look at the big picture the black man is the only one who makes race the excuse for his failure.

 

Today many Mexicans, Asians and east Europeans are feeling the same discriminations but not from white men only but from all business men. However they continue to work to get ahead, buy homes, build lives.

 

What the black communities need to do is work together against the blacks who are giving their race a bad rap and then clean up those communities by helping the law enforcement agencies to stem the tide of corruption, drug use and crime.

 

In stead what you find the black leaders doing is using their race to promote themselves and to better only their lives and no those that are in need.

 

Before you think I am a redneck and white supremacist  I have worked with and took the side of many of my fellow workers and have seen the good ones strive to get ahead, only to be pounced on by their fellow blacks and coerced into a life of poverty.

 

If i as a white person were to apply for a job with my hair looking like dread knots, sic, unkempt clothes and a beard my chance of being hire for a well paying job would suffer as well, if every other word out of my mouth was you know, or Like, or some other catch word i would be hard presses to be hired.

 

I believe because of the black community asking for special considerations to hire blacks is the wrong approach, requiring the black youth to learn and grow is what they should be stressing. it may be going on now on a small scale, but there are many black leaders that are placing there mouth where they won't place their money

 
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