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(Original Air Date: 11/13/07) Has an inheritance that seemed at first like a stroke of good fortune become a dividing force in your family? Meet four sisters bitterly fighting over their aunt’s inheritance. Virginia's original will divided her estate four ways: Pat, Linda and Barbara would each receive $10,000 and Carol, the youngest, would get the remainder of the trust -- approximately $400,000. But the inheritance was split six ways to include Linda’s two kids after Aunt Virginia went to live with Linda. Barbara says she can’t imagine why her aunt would change the trust unless Linda manipulated her. Does Barbara have a case against her sister, or is she just being the family troublemaker? Their mother, Fran, drops a bombshell about the real reason the will was changed. Then, Sondra says she and her husband, Patrick, fight constantly since they blew his $100,000 inheritance in less than a year. After purchasing five new cars, a new TV and furniture, they can’t afford to pay for their daughter’s college tuition. How can this couple end the battle over the buck? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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November 14, 2007, 6:33 am PST

11/13 Will Fights

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Linda said that if the other sisters had children they would have gotten money also.  How would she know this? And apparently Dr. Phil has never experienced the hurt you feel when one of your siblings does something as despicable as manipulating a Family Elder without open communication with other family members involved.  It really isn't about money but how else can you bring out such an injustice . 

Maybe her aunt told her this.  It really is a moot point, isn't it?  It doesn't really make any difference.  

 

May I just ask, what is unjust about each person named in the will receiving an equal share of the inheritence?  There is no injustice when one receives money that they neither earned nor are entitled to.    None of the people mentioned in the will were entitled to $1 of that estate, and they should be grateful for every dime.

 

If Linda manipulated her aunt, her "manipulation" resulted in a completely equitable arrangement.  What is so terrible and hurtful about that? 

 
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November 14, 2007, 6:39 am PST

11/13 Will Fights

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you're right, there was a lot of information left out.  And obviously the aunt can give her money to whomever she wants to, but did Linda know before her aunt passed away that her children were going to be included in the will? If she did and didn't tell her sisters, that seems pretty underhanded.  I missed the part where this might have been discussed.  But Linda did not strike me as being totally honest about what happened.
Why did they have the right to know who was being left what in the first place?  Not their money, not their business. 
 
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November 14, 2007, 7:16 am PST

Greed is the worst

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I have watched families fight over money many times and it always ends the same.  Torn families and words that can never be taken back.  If they truly care about one another they would just settle it equally and quietly among themselves.  It really isn't going to get better so just divide it and get on with their lives.  Who cares who took care of her the longest she is gone now.  And if that was her intention of getting more in the end then what a pitiful reason to get the money. I know a couple who sucked up to an aunt and kissed her heiny for years to the point of draining her and when she died of course they got it all. And now they live quite well and  are expected to get a lot more from her mother.  They have a lot of "things" and doing extremely well but knowing how they got to this point makes me sick.  However they are my friends and I have never said anything.  If this family feels justified in what they are doing so be it.  I sleep good at night.
What is your take on doing well?
I don't see them as doing well I see them as greedy, arrogant, pompass and down right materialistic.
I have family (and I do not like to admit they are) that has done similar things.  A relative of mine, her father was an alchoholic, when young he, while drunk, hit and killed someone.  He never really got over it and it ruined many relationships BUT when he died and there was a lot of money to be devided up all these so called kids who had nothing to do with him while alive were there with hands out to collect.
it sickens me, all these people talk about is what they bought with the money; one got a new kitchen (and it was an ugly kitchen), one paid off gambling debts another bought a car.  To this day not one of them even displays a picture in their house of this relative. I can tell you where the money came from but I have no clue what he even looks like, now there is some good old family love.
These so called family members also excluded their own grand children from family functions so they could "impress" friends with a party they were throwing. 
a few years back i got so fed up with the greed in my family that i told relatives i wanted to be removed from their wills, im not interested in their money or material items. BUT a lot of people are.

I have family (again I use that word timidly) that ask me all the time why would I want to take myself out of inheritance or someones will,  I always tell them; I am not in this relationship for money gain I am in it for the emotional and physical aspects.  Money only causes problems.  I'd rather be poor and live in a shack with the important things then live in a mansion where no one wants to visit you and be alone.

Me my husband and our childen need for nothing, we have clothes on our backs, a roof over our heads, a warm bed and good educations; what else can you ask for.  After watching these greedy blood suckers I confirm that my decision to remove myself from my relatives wills was the best thing to do.

Good luck to this family,  once they can look past the money maybe they can see the real reasons they should be glad this aunt was in their lives.
 

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November 14, 2007, 7:24 am PST

why why why

I really dont like to eve talk anymore about it----BUT---I have had the same experiance.This is allways a tough subject for all.. I took care of my mom for allmost 25 years.. The last 1.5 in my home, until she pased away in my Master bedroom.. I had to deal with selfish greedy siblings. They wre hardly never around, one living in the same city across town.

  I lived  30 minuts away. I still called her at least 2-3 times a day to check on her. Once a week we woud go out for the grocery store and lunch.

 The last few years of her life, she was sooooo sad that one of her daughters would treat her like she did.

THEN, when she passed,she left them all some and the rest to me..Not to worry, it wasnt much. I neer ever did it for an sorta money. I didnt even know how much if any she had...she was a vey private lady, and I never asked about her money situation.

 I can tell you they all think that there was this huge amount of life insurance left to me...HELLO...they say dont let your imanagtion get to you!!

 Well I can see that theres is.. I miss my mom so very much each and everday..We were so close, for alot of years, and I allways made sure she had her neccesitys in life.

Proper medical attention, grocerys..etc...

  Where were they? they all were THERE at the end..wanting and wondering...I would never ever STEAL from one of my parents...They can think of me as they wish, but I still have all the memories of my mom,that you can not put a price tag on.

 She had asked me to promise her not to leave her.. and I made her that promise..can you see here... she didnt have to leave anyof us anything.. A inhertiance is a gift, its not to be expected...

 My husband said well honey, there was never a problem for them, you allways took care of it..

 I am so glad that Dr. Phil had this show...

 eople...wake up, we are not gonna be here on this earth FOREVER!!!  I just have alot of hurt built up..and they say time heals all wounds..

 I dont speak to them...BUT..al I know is every dog has there day...My children learned what the meaning of family is..Your parens took care of you--and when its time you should take care of them...

 My mom also confided in me things that really hurt her.. I COULD bring all those things up to the other siblings,BUT WHY...I gave her my word, to do EXCATELY what was in the will----HER WISHES..its allways hard being the one left in charge..the others act like its MY choice of what she wanted.. GET OVER IT POPLE...I can tell you its alof of work, when your left in charge to deal with the estate...

 BUT...she knew who she could trust and who she couldnt..they think that I changed her wishes, and that she didnt KNOW what she had wanted...

 She took herself into the bank and had it signed...This was allmost 2 years before she died..Her body may have been dis-abled but not her mind...

One sibling asked if he could go to her bedside and ask for a few things.. I said, she is on Morphine and other drugs, and I didnt think it was approiate...

 enough is enough.. I am not all looking for a brownie point for taking care of her... I did it out of LOVE for my mom, not any sort of payoff.. I know some do it for money, and if thats you---Lord help ya...I can lay my head on my pillow every night with a clear conscience that i fullfilled her every wish...

And, I cant wait until the day we meet again...

This is a good saying my parents used to use--IF you dont have something nice to say, then dont say anythig at all---

Hope all works out for all that are going through this---

 

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November 14, 2007, 7:25 am PST

11/13 Will Fights

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About 15 minutes into this show, Dr. Phil asked, what I felt was a pivotal question-"Does anyone here miss Aunt Virginia"?  It was never really clarifed as to how many of these sisters took the time to visit, call, or write Aunt Virginia, while she was living with Linda.  For reasons that werent mentioned, Aunt Virginia chose to move to live near Linda, then when she became ill ,went to a hospital, then a nursing home, she wanted to leave, and Linda offered her home.  Yes, she needed to have a room enclosed in order to accomodate Aunt Va. & give her some privacy and space.  Yes, Aunt Va. paid for the construction, which was completely appropriate.  Apparently getting the room built needed to be done quickly so Aunt Va. could move as soon as possible, and Linda had to write several checks under $1,000 in order to pay the contractors.  I think the lawyer in the audience was way off the mark when he said this was suspicious.  Why did no one question this at the time.  If these sisters were so concerned, why did n't they take some of their vacation time and come check on Aunt Va. & the situation.  AV had even offered to pay for one of her nieces flight that would have allowed her to come on the weekend.  She didnt want to take the time-she only wanted to criticize Linda.  This show was about money-not gratitude that AV had the care of a relative at the end of her life.  Until you have walked in the shoes of a caregiver, you have no idea of the many things that are involved.  I didnt hear any of the sisters say they wanted to take AV into their home.  They didnt even visit for heavens sake.  The main mistake I think happened in this situation, is that AV should have had her attorney dictate a letter in her own words, explaining why she had changed her will, and expressing her feelings for each sister.  The way it is now, she left Linda in a position where she has to defend her every action.  Sometimes when people are aware that they are at the end of life stage, the look around and reevaluate a lot of things, like who is there and caring for them.  Had any of these sisters offered to take time to give Linda a break, so maybe she could get away for a few days, maybe things would have been different.  I think AV saw the greed, and decided to address it the best way she knew how.  After all, she didnt disinherit anyone, she just divided up the slices of the pie to include Linda's children.  These greedy sisters showed their true colors, now everyone who knows them, knows what kind of people they are.  Always remember-What goes around, comes around.  Perhaps in time, their values about life will change, but I dont bet on that happening.  I feel sorry for people who are so shallow and shelfish about money and things.
I totally agree.. How can they REALLY truly miss her, if they never seen her.. I think its guilt!
 
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November 14, 2007, 8:26 am PST

BINGO!

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Living relatives is all you know about?

Had the 'Aunt' had children? What would these 'Nieces' get?

Whoever she wanted to give 'her' money to,she owed no explaination.

Had they visited, shared thier time, maybe they would have been told?

You hit the nail on the head.

 

 

 
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November 14, 2007, 8:31 am PST

another Nail on the head

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i cannot beleive how people act when money is involed.i did not hear the answer to does anyone miss aunt viriginia.............man i am so shocked how money changes people.i have been there and it was very ugly..............i was not raised around    such maddness.you are right.you cannot take it with you.sheliapoteat

When my father died, I only asked for one small personal item.  I didn't (and still DON'T) care about any inheritence, or financial gain.

 

Yet my relatives were picking over his possessions, and finances as though they were vultures picking at a corpse.

 

So much for HONORING my Father's MEMORY!

 

 
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November 14, 2007, 8:35 am PST

11/13 Will Fights

In watching your show last night regarding the issue of the family wills, this hit a very sore subject with my family.   In 1997 my husband's mother passed away suddenly but thankfully they had a will already drawn up.   3 weeks after her death, my husband's father was in the hospital and specifically told my husband that he and his deceased wife had a bank account with $100,000 in it and want the three children to have the money now to do with what they wanted.   My husband told his father that was fine but if he needed any of the money for health reasons, a vehicle or anything that he needed, that the three children would give him the money.     Behind my husband's back, when his father got released from the hospital his two sisters (1 son and 2 sisters) took him to an attorney without my husband's knowledge and had everything put in one of the sister's names and the will was then null and void.    His father called him at home that night to tell him that he "had a change of heart" and decided to spend that money on the family home so the daughter that lived with them wouldn't have to put any of her money in the home after passed away.   My husband was fine with that because it was his father's money but was a little hurt that the two sisters did not include him in going to the attorney's office.      A year later, his father passed away and that's when the "hell" broke loose.    When my husband's mother died he did not receive any personal items that belonged to her for a keepsake.   The two daughters took everything.  When his father died is when the greed came to light and all of my husband's personal items that were still in the home were either sold or given away.   He was not allowed to come to the home or take anything that belonged to him.     He was very angry for a very long time but then decided that he had a clear consious and did nothing wrong and if the two sisters wanted everything they could have everything and he has washed his hands of the whole situation.     There is more to this story then written but not enough time to endulge.   The reason I am writing is your statement last night to move ahead and let it go really hit home because that's what I had been telling my husband, as well as  my family, from the start and it really hit home to him last night when you spoke about it.     Thank you for having issues on your show that is an every day occurance and is real.   I just wanted to take the time to state that sometimes by hearing it from someone else makes it seem real and understanding.    Thank you Dr. Phil.

 
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November 14, 2007, 8:37 am PST

KUDOS

I want to give KUDOS to Linda for taking care of, and loving her aunt.

 

However that being said, I want to ask ............WHY is she so unwilling to let anyone else talk?

 

Whenever someone screams and rants the way Linda does, whenever Barbara is talking.

 

Why can't you let Barbara have 'her' say, then have yours?

 

Don't you realize that by continuelly interupting others, you are only hurting yourself?

 

The ugliness needs to stop.

 

 

 
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November 14, 2007, 9:35 am PST

cabin fever

I can't help but think that the family cabin will come back to Sondra & Patrick someday.  Once they get the lesson.
 
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