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November 28, 2007, 9:30 pm PST
Actually You are a Very Disrespectful Person!
Quote From: shisha4What you're saying is very ignorent, especially when I read "And besides if the Middle Easterners weren't so cruel to their women perhaps there wouldn't be a stigma" I realized so. I am a Muslim American who has been all over the Middle East. I have never been treated badly by any Muslim man, and with complete kindness and respect from my husband. When I read people assuming that Middle Eastern guys and/or Muslim guys treat their women badly I know for a fact those people making those claims haven't travelled very much. On the news the worse kind of Arabs are shown. Uneducated, poor, and uncivilized people living in villages are being represented as the norm, those that take their poor circumstance out on their wife. But the truth is, that ISN'T the norm. Try travelling to Beirut, Cairo, Sharm el Sheikh, Alexandria, Amman, Dubai and see how women are treated. Women have freedoms that women anywhere else in the world would have. Also classifying all Muslims as the same is extremely bigotted. We are all people and individuals act as individuals. Would you want American men to be potrayed as all being poor, uneducated white trailor trash guys who beat thier wives? Sure they exist, but they are not the norm. Same with guys beating their wives in the Arab or Muslim world. In Islam a woman has the right to divorce her husband for any reason she sees. Women who live in cities in the Middle East often live in wealth and with a good education, most women in Lebanon for instance speak Arabic, French, and English! So to sum an entire group as all being the same is not only inaccurate and uneducated, it's ignorent.
Shisha4: I have read many of your posts and you really have no respect for others!
You are very aloof, and actually portraying inaccurate information for others on this board!
Those that have little or no experience with the arab culture, and countries, you are a poor example!
I even reread some of your responses, I couldn't believe you actually posted such information.
You claim to be a muslim-american as you worded it, with such extensive experience, in the middle east,
then" WHY are you not living overseas if it is so safe and life is so great"??
You are giving a complete misrepresentation to others here, and actually you are the "ignorant one"!!
You put yourself so high above others and clain you are "moslem'??
Well a true moslem, following her Holy Qur'an, would be in a "hijab" (veil) or scarf covering your hair,
not posting a provacative looking picture, because only your husband, brothers, immediate family members can see you without the "hijab"!!
I personally have lived in Egypt, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and worked in others! I am fluent in Arabic also.
Your strong statements are inaccurate, you seem to put down the lower class arab people, and always stress the wealthy!!
Sharm el Sheikh is a very wealthy district known for heavy tourism , and male gigolos, circling trying to pick up any foreign women, preying especially on older women, hoping to catch a wealthy financially stable woman. Trying to get their freedom out, and gain status , green card, freedom to the USA!!
Egypt unfortunately with all the beuaty, is a very poor country, economy suffering greatly!
Most egyptian men have wives, and still are trying to marry an american, or European women!
Some of the British women, will actually agree to be a "co-wife", which is utterly ridiculous and demeaning to any woman that puts herself in that situation!'
The ones that have come to the states on visiting visas, trying to find american women to marry, leave their egyptian wife alone with their children, visit them every 2 yrs. for about 2 month period.
The egyptian women think they are working here, they have wife in the states, and are committing fraud!
Egypt is on the top list right now for illegal marriages in the states, deceptions.
Hunting women on the internet, or in person, while they have a wife sitting their in Egypt! Then they use the american womans credit, send money back home if they get a work permit& green card, of course the money sent back home is worth 5x as much when converted!
You say they are living clean heart in this country .........think again! Illegal activity& causing a lot of pain and heartache for both women, when discovered! This is something to be proud of, let me inform you, we don't allow multiple marriage in this country Shisha!!
Shame on you.......You are a Hypocrite!!
You call people "white trailor trash", you think domestic violence is only from poor areas, rural areas, uneducated, think again!!
Kuwait, Dubai, Saudi, being very wealthy, I have seen first hand women, abused physically, from the upper class, Literally stuck in that country, scared to leave because, husband will not allow the children to go!
Excuse me divorce is still difficult for the arab women, many are ordered by the court to go back to their husbands!! Most are scared to lose their children, they cannot travel without the husbands permission, you call that "freedom" for women, good equal treatment!!
You put others down and you are the insecure unhappy person, but easy to call everyone on this board ignorant, unless they agree with your expertise!
The Holy Qur'an allows the moslem man to discipline the women if she does not obey or behave as he sees fit& correct! That is why you do not reside overseas, the authorities are not going to help you if you call them!"
You make fun and mock others on this board in regards to the film"NOT Without My Daughter", well I have news for you, that kind of activity is still going on in the middle east my dear!! It is not fantasy, or a joke, when you cannot get out of a country with your own children!
YOU NEED A REALITY CHECK!!
So before you call the next person "uneducated, inaccurate, ignorant, etc."
Take a look in the mirror! You are suffering low-self esteem& in a very unhappy marriage, because you are trying so hard to convince others of your great marriage, the best life overseas in the arab world, but you are here???
You are a very cold heart& unsympathetic to others, who are suffering at the hands of these predators
who are lying and using american women to gain financial ,&green card status ,in this country, anyway
they can, even to destroy others lives and families,being torn apart! Even tearing their own family apart overseas with these lies and deceptions!
Just remember to these women never give up ,their is help available and support!
"By God What Goes Around Comes Around!!"
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