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Topic : 06/16 A Daughter in Danger?

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Created on : Thursday, November 08, 2007, 07:38:18 pm
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(Original Air Date: 11/14/07) When Shawn’s daughter, Katherine, was only 16 years old, she made international headlines when she ran away to the Middle East to be with 20-year-old Abdullah, whom she met on MySpace -- a man she never met in person but was convinced she was in love with. The FBI intercepted her in Jordan and escorted her back to the United States. Unbeknownst to her family, Katherine secretly continued a relationship with Abdullah via the phone and the computer for two years. After turning 18, Katherine said goodbye to her family and left to be with Abdullah in the war-torn Gaza Strip. Katherine’s family is terrified that she’s never going to return. They think Abdullah is lying to Katherine and possibly even brainwashing her. They say when she calls, something doesn’t sound right. Is she afraid for her life, but unable to tell them? Is she being held against her will? Dr. Phil talks with Katherine via satellite from Palestine, and has some hard questions for Abdullah about his real intentions with Katherine. Join the discussion.

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June 17, 2008, 2:02 pm PDT

i would like to find out what happens on friday

I am just wondering how we are able to keep up with this story.  It is like a mother's worst nightmare and I would just like to know the outcome of it all.  They really didn't sound convincing on her coming home Friday, and if she does, aren't the parents worried that theyre just going to chase her back away when they come on too strong...its a very delicate situation, that really has to be handled in a delicate way...Good luck to the parents and relatives and to Katherine...
 
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June 17, 2008, 2:21 pm PDT

06/16 A Daughter in Danger?

im confused.  were both shows old shows or did the second show just happen today?  i started watching in the middle and i want to know what happened after!!!!
 
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June 17, 2008, 2:22 pm PDT

Did she come home?

I didn't see the original airing of this show, so I don't know the outcome.  Did she come home that Friday as she agreed to?  What has happened since then?  Is there anywhere we can get an update???
 
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June 17, 2008, 2:35 pm PDT

she is too young

 

there lots of thing she doesnt know. First when you married a muslin and you have kids your kids are muslin that is the law. there is no choice.

i hope she realize what she is doing, if she doesnt this will be another movie... like no without my daughter

The culture is so different... woman dont have no rights... kathy ask him what will happend if you have a kid???? would you convert to muslin?

 
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June 17, 2008, 3:15 pm PDT

God Help Her

I moved to be with my husband to Lebanon. After several years of abuse he threw me out on the streets .. I was staying with a friend of mine, When I left I took the family car, as I was the only one who ever drove it. He told the police I stole it. They came to my friends aparrtment with several armed police and hauled myself and my friends son to the police station. There they made this young man sign a statement saying he was having sex with me. I was at the time 42 he was 24 .. I have a son his age .... They then released us. Several months later the police returned to arrest the both of us for adultry. I was home alone so didnt answer the door. Him and I went to the police station to speak with the officer in charge . The police called my husband, he came to the station. After he left the police said he felt I was guilty of the crime and i must stay the night in the jail until the morning when I can see a judge. I saw the judge the next afternoon. The judge said he found me innocent but it was late in the day and it was a long weekend so I have to stay the weekend in jail .. unless my husband was willing to come take me out. Needless to say he wasn't .. he was the one who paid everybody off .. to keep me in ... I stayed 6 nights in the jail, all the while i was innocent. There were many reasons he did this certainly ,, way too many for me to get into here ..

IN CONCLUSION >>> 

American women stay away from arab countries .. you have no rights at all !!!!

you can be jailed for false accusations and the american embassy cant help you .. nobody can ...

 
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June 17, 2008, 3:31 pm PDT

Religious and Ethical

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when this girl was brought back why didn't her parents pay attention to her and what she was doing? why does it matter where the guy is from regardless it is wrong? i am from palestine originally but born in the us and i am from a very safe community. there are dangerous areas and safe ones just like any country in the world. it seems like it is so bad because he is palestinian and muslim. the parents need to focus on their daughter and opening the lines of communication. by the preview it seems like he is palestinian and muslim so he must be brainwashing her wish islam. but i am muslim and we do fall in love just like others. internet relationships are made everyday. obviously she saw something in him to go and see him. and if it doesn't work out she can just call the embassy and they'll pick her up and ship her back. what is he going to do to her? he  can't even get into this country without a visa and they don't give those out to young men anyway. so as a palestinian-american i wish they would focus on why she felt she had to be so secretive maybe its because her parents would have not accepted her relationship with a muslim man from palestine.

Dr. Phil and the girl's family are only concerned about the young man being Muslim because of the "ownership" a Muslim husband has of his wife and children. There is nothing in the show alluding to racial reasons (he is a native in the Palestinian region) tthat should be considered. The main concern is in regard to Abdullah's Faith/Religion: If she marries him, even in the U.S., his religious right will be to not only verbally, but also physically abuse her. If she has children by him born in his country his right is to keep their children. He can divorce her and send her away without her children. He can also kill his wife if he believes he has religious reasons to do so. He can "make" her stay in his country if she is his wife, and keep her from ever seeing her family again. He can also verbally and physically abuse his children, as a Muslim father, without repercussion, if they live in a Muslim country.

 

The other concern, nearly as great as the first, is that he has lied to her many times already, and verbally abused her in a most unconsionable way, and she is still not dissuaded. That's a true sign of immaturity: She is not yet ready to make such a life altering decision as marriage.

 
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June 17, 2008, 3:56 pm PDT

story so far

as far as I can find on the internet:

   She returned home and told Abdullah via satellite that she was breaking up with him.  She said she found a new friend (boy) who lived here in the US. 

Abdullah recently went on a morning show in his country and stated that she made that up only to make her family happy. He said that he only hit her because she refused to go back to the US when he told her to go.  He said that they were married and she had called in January wanting to return to him, but he told her to wait because he was having monetary problems.  There is a youtube video up of most of the show he was on.  Read the description to get the translation of what he is saying.
 
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June 17, 2008, 3:59 pm PDT

affraid

I am almost sure that this girl will never come home.   she asked for more time and i am sure she will disappear.  I pray that she will come home but she  asked for more time and that just gives her more time to hide.
 
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June 17, 2008, 4:23 pm PDT

Thoughts on the show

As a young American woman who has traveled throughout the Middle East, including Jericho, Abdullah's city in the West Bank (as opposed to the Gaza Strip, incorrectly identified by Dr. Phil as the location of Jericho), I felt very uncomfortable with this show and the characterizations of the Middle East as a dangerous, scary place, and Muslim or Arab men as dangerous and scary people. Certainly there are dangerous parts of the Middle East, and there are, of course, some dangerous people in the Middle East, yet the vast majority of people and places in the Middle East are not scary or dangerous. I felt that the way this show was produced was culturally insensitive, and furthermore, unhelpful in dispelling the negative stereotypes about Arabs and the Middle East that are abundant in our media. I lived in Jordan for nearly half a year, and made week-long visits to other countries in the region. The Arabs I met were, without exception, kind and friendly. I never once had any negative interaction or incident that made me feel worried or fearful. When I traveled to the West Bank, particularly Abdullah's city of Jericho, I was very warmly welcomed by the Palestinians whom I met there.

Of course, there are cultural differences between the U.S. and Arab world, some of which are more pronounced than others, particularly in certain parts of the region. And of course, some women in some parts of the Middle East do not have the same rights afforded to men. Yet, we would be ignorant to assume that all women in the Middle East are downtrodden or to start this show with the premise that Katherine has been held against her will by an Arab man.

While I do think Katherine and Abdullah lack maturity, and perhaps this immaturity and the dangers of internet dating could be subject matter for a Dr. Phil show, I think it was unfair and did a disservice to the viewers to frame this show within the context of an Arab man kidnapping a young American women and holding her hostage in a "war zone".  By the way, millions of Western tourists and Christian pilgrims travel safely to this "war zone" every year to visit Bethlehem, which is also located in the West Bank. Rather than being instinctively afraid or suspicious of the vast region that is the Middle East, try to learn about the many wonderful things and kind people that make up this part of the world. It can be a real eye-opener.


 
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June 17, 2008, 5:07 pm PDT

06/16 A Daughter in Danger?

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 First of all: There is no official country named Palestine. It is either Israel or Gaza strip and Westbank.

Second of all, unfortunately lots of girls from abroad got hooked up with Arabs/Moslims. Here in Israel there are lots of Dutch, Danish, Russian girls who got married with moslims and live here in villages or in the Gaza strip or the Westbank.

It is like my dad used to tell me:
You have to respect every culture, you cannot get married to every culture!

Unfortunately most of these girls can't get out once they are in....... or they'll loose their kids!
Some girls are really happy with the situation.

 Sorry, Palestinian existed before 1948. I understand your life would be better without them, but believe it or not they have rights.

 

I live in Nicaragua, I met a Nicaraguan woman married to an iranian guy. They went  to Iran with their two daughters (9 and 7). My friend and her daughters had to cover their heads once they got into Iranian air. They did not wear it inside the house. They stayed there for 8 weeks and came back. I think the woman with the horrible experience in Iran believes Iran and Palestine ( oops, "there is not such country") are the same. Palestine is different, there are Chiristians over there,(Christian are not allowed in  Iran).

 

Katherine is 18 and she is in love, I agree with Dr. Phil there is inmaturity. I believe calling whore or bitch to the person you are in love with is wrong, and if this is true, this girls should think it twice once she goes back to the USA.

 
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