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Topic : 06/17 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

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Created on : Thursday, November 08, 2007, 07:39:52 pm
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(Original Air Date: 11/15/07) Dr. Phil continues the story of a young woman who made international headlines when she ran away to Palestine to be with a man she met on the Internet when she was just 16. Katherine was stopped by the FBI and brought back home, but two years later and now an adult, she’s left the United States again to be with Abdullah, the man she says she loves and wants to marry. Katherine’s terrified family thinks she is being brainwashed, and may never be allowed to return home. They say they’ve witnessed Abdullah’s violent temper when he’s verbally abused her over the phone. Now, in an exclusive interview via satellite, Dr. Phil speaks with Katherine and Abdullah together. Is Abdullah lying about letting Katherine return home? Is this couple already married? Talk about the show here.

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November 15, 2007, 3:05 pm PST

She needs a good spanking

 

I know Dr. Phil is just trying to bring this girl home, but, I can't help but be appalled at her extreme act of self-centeredness, selfishness, carelessness and stupidity. Will she ever look at herself and realise the cost to our goverment, her family and Dr. Phil for her petulance? She  was clearly raised without some much needed boundaries and good sense. I heard on the trailer that Dr. Phil wants to reach out and choke Abdullah, but I want to reach out and spank her for her ignorance. And, what was that about wanting a round trip ticket? I can only hope she said that as a ploy to make it appear that she would come back. Sheeesh!

 
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November 15, 2007, 3:06 pm PST

11/15 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

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i am so sorry but did i hear him right?!  its OKAY and NORMAL to call the woman he loves a bitch, slut, whore and all that crap?  are you effing KIDDING me right now?  this girl needs to get a reality check if she is fine with him saying that.  that is called verbal abuse.  then he apparently has this home in l.beach but apparently sold it?  there is no proof of this yet she believes him.  this girl needs a good dose of reality sent her way.  this whole entire episode just made me so mad to even hear him talk.  my prayers go out to katherine's family.
Yes Abdullah isn't a very good representative of a most Arab guys. He does seem to have either a problem communicating properly in English, or he lies a lot. I'm guessing he just enjoys lying. He says that calling a women a bitch is normal? Having lived in the Middle East myself I know that calling someone a bitch in Arabic is so highly offensive a woman would never talk to you again if you called her that. Not only that, saying something like that would show how low your class is or social status. No one says these offensive words towards women in Arabic. Cussing sometimes happens but not slanders towards your wife, family member, or mother. That is not the norm at all.
 
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November 15, 2007, 3:07 pm PST

No such country as Palestine!

I'm not sure if anyone has pointed this out yet but there is no such country as Palestine. Why does Dr. Phil keep referring to ISRAEL as Palestine? Also, Israel is not like Iran where the last woman on the show had to escape from because her husband wouldn't let her leave. Israel is a democracy and women have full rights. Granted, the guy is a jerk but he lives in ISRAEL not Palestine and he cannot hold her against her will in that country.
 
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November 15, 2007, 3:08 pm PST

There are good men in the Middle East

I just wanted to share that I am an American with a wonderful Arabic husband.  We both love our cultures and love one another.  It is hard, I won't lie about that and yes we do have extra barriers that others don't have, but ultimately our marriage is so fun.  I love traveling, I love his family and they love me. 

 

I am a super strong woman and have an equal say in EVERYTHING!  Just remember all the women and children who are beat and even murdered in the U.S. due to abusive American men!  You have to watch yourself just being a woman no matter what country you are in! 

 

I know that this is such a scary story and I think that Abdullah is scary, but I hate the fact that it keeps confirming all the stereotypes of the Arab man!

 
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November 15, 2007, 3:08 pm PST

A Daughter in Danger Part 2

Does anyone know when the third part with Katherine on the Dr. Phil show will be aired?  Tomorrow's show is about anorexia and Monday's is about another topic.  Even though it showed a preview with Katherine, it didn't say when it will air.  Does anyone know????? 
 
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November 15, 2007, 3:09 pm PST

Not all changes are positive ones!

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OMG, you did not say that.   Of course peolple, teens, survived wihout it.  They didn't exist.  But times change, technology changes...  These are now reality.  The internet and cell phones are not evil...  Some people can be, but teach children how to take care of themselves.  Don't fight the change.   Open your mind.

You were not responding to me, but I am going to give you my 2 cents worth.

 

Our teen is the only one in her large group who does NOT have a cell phone. She doesn't need to have one. She can use the school phone, if she needs to reach us. We pick her up from school and she is with us. We drop her off at soccer and her coach is her caretaker. We drop her off at tennis and that coach is her caretaker, etc.

 

When she learns to drive, she will borrow my pre-paid EMERGENCY-ONLY cell phone. Too many kids WASTE both time and money on cell phones. ThHey are a huge disruption and distraction in their lives. Many parents have indulged their children and created spoiled, immature young people.

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As for MYSPACE, ANY parent who would never allow his/her teen or child to speak with a stranger SHOULD NOT allow him/her to be on MYSPACE. It's NO DIFFERENT than talking to stangers and asking for trouble! Our teen has a large group of friends and they all converse on-line. They also visit gaming sites together on-line. MYSPACE is off limits. It's out job as parents to make the BEST decisions possible for our children as they slowly and gradually learn to fly!

 

You do not "teach children how to take care of themselves" by giving them too much and giving them things that are often dangerous (ex. MYSPACE). You teach them by being great role models and not indulging their every want.

 

Teens don't need to be distracted and wasting money with cell phones AND they don't need to play with fire when it comes to MYSPACE. I am not only a parent of two, I am a high school teacher. I have seen and heard it all! Teens are emotionally immature and it's our jobs as parents to care for them.

 
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November 15, 2007, 3:10 pm PST

WHATS WRONG WITH DA TRUTH

THIS GIRL & ALOT JUST LIKE HER HAVE  4 MANY YRS BEEN STUPID & NAIVE ABOUT OTHER CULTURES,ONCE SHE MARRIES IT IS MUSLIM (LAW) THAT SHE CONVERT,ONCE THIS OCCURS SHE MUST BE SUBSURVIANT 2 HIS DEMANDS OR SUFFER THE WRATH OF MUSLIM LAW(VERBAL ASSULT,HATRED,DEGREDATION,BEATINGS,PERVERSIONS & ON & ON,)PLEASE WOMEN OF AMERICA STOP BELEIVING ITS ALRIGHT TO IGNORE DIFFERENCES IN CULTURES & PRETINED U CAN MAKE SOME SORT OF CHANGE IN THE WORLD(WAKE UP )
 
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November 15, 2007, 3:12 pm PST

Missed their chance

The family had almost 2 years from the time she first left to the second time to stop her.  They could have done something then, if they really wanted to take the time to do it.  They let it go on and the love got stronger.  Now she's 18.  She made her own decision.  She's obviously serious about how she feels about the guy.  She's not brainwashed.  She is just the type of person that is willing to give alot of herself for love and acceptance.  Besides, that dude is too dumb to brainwash anyone.  He sounds like he might be a little on the slow side.  And it's not just the language barrier.  He looks slow too.  Watching them interact on camera showed me that he's not controlling and that she probably has more influence over him than he over her.  He does seem kinda mean and to have short patience.

 

The girl would do the same for a guy that lived in Ohio or California or in her home town, if she felt like she loved him.  She would let  any man she loved treat her badly or call her names.  That is where she needs help.  That is where the family failed to empower her with the appropriate values.  The only way she can figure it out is by going through stuff like this.  Let her get her heart broken, that's how you grow up.  You have to make mistakes.  People can't coach you through life and make you do this or that because they feel its the right thing.  You have to decide what you feel is right, even if others don't agree.  This is how you learn.  She is choosing the life she wants to have.  I think it is worse for her family to treat her like she's an idiot, because for the rest of her life she'll feel like she can't make her own decisions.  She'll always take the role of naive victim.  I think they should lay off of her.  If they get her home they should go to McDonald's eat a Big Mac, take her shopping, give her some advice and let her decide what she wants to do. 

 

 

 
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November 15, 2007, 3:12 pm PST

are you serious???

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Would everyone be so upset if Abdullah was a guy named Pierre in France?  Granted he comes from a different culture, but these things can work if both families are supportive.  I wouldn't want my child in a war zone, but I don't think Abdullah is the devil incarnate like it seems he's being portrayed.  Couldn't this be as simple as two young people falling in love and wanting to be together no matter the obstacles.  Didn't Shakespeare write about this very thing in Romeo & Juliette?  I was married to an Israeli and now am dating a Bosnian Muslim.  Islam can be positive as long as the religious person isn't an extremist, same as in Christianity or Judaism.  I wish for all involved happiness, and a long life in peace.  Salaam, Shalom.
there is a very big difference between a Pierre from France and an Abdulah from "Palestine".  and if you were married to an Israeli you should be well aware of this!!!  There is also a big difference between a Bosnian muslim and a palestinian one.  With all due respect I wonder if you are one of these girls who guys marry for a green card and once they get it pass her on to the next one and whi is just too naive to realize she is being used but believes she is really in a new once-in-a-life-time romance.  Unfortunately, I know some girls like that and you sound just like them!
 
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November 15, 2007, 3:13 pm PST

Dr Phil, PLEASE stop the baby pictures!

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i think that she wants to leave, but doesnt want to make him mad for fear of loosing him. i also think they reason why he has not come to america or got his green card is because his family feels the same way her family does. "I don't want my son in a different country with a family i don't know." I strongly think that the parents of these families should speak with one another and come to mutual agreement.  His family should come over here with him and her family should go over there with her.

 

Two weeks isn't enough time to know someone to marry them. I got married after two years of being with someone, seeing them on an everyday basis, working with them in the same work place. Spending all my free time with him. You think you know everything about someone and three years later, and a little bit older, I now realize, I knew nothing.

 

You can fall in love in a second, but just because you love them doesn't make them the one to be with.

 

Kathrine---- You can do better, and you deserve better.  Don't waste your youth on someone that doesn't truly respect you. And don't waste your life looking for love. Indulge yourself in a hobby. Like babysitting or ice skating or playing with puppies and kittens. And no matter how old you get, Never let anyone keep you from feeling good about yourself or being young at heart.

WHY is Dr. Phil and his staff still allowing naieve parents to post the photos of their adorable babies and children???!

 

Dr. Phil, go to some of the law enforcement training I have been to (and my husband, too) and see how these images are copied, then morped to show sexual objects in children's mouths and hands. Then these images circulate thru the Internet, often ending up on the computers of perverts who get off on them.

 

NO parent should EVER post his/her daughter or son on the Internet, regardless of how cute or handsome that child is (and, of course, the baby in this post is simply gorgeous:).

 

Parents, PLEASE listen before your child becomes a nameless victim!

 
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