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Topic : 06/17 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

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Created on : Thursday, November 08, 2007, 07:39:52 pm
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(Original Air Date: 11/15/07) Dr. Phil continues the story of a young woman who made international headlines when she ran away to Palestine to be with a man she met on the Internet when she was just 16. Katherine was stopped by the FBI and brought back home, but two years later and now an adult, she’s left the United States again to be with Abdullah, the man she says she loves and wants to marry. Katherine’s terrified family thinks she is being brainwashed, and may never be allowed to return home. They say they’ve witnessed Abdullah’s violent temper when he’s verbally abused her over the phone. Now, in an exclusive interview via satellite, Dr. Phil speaks with Katherine and Abdullah together. Is Abdullah lying about letting Katherine return home? Is this couple already married? Talk about the show here.

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November 15, 2007, 9:06 pm PST

Katherine

After watching the show today, I just had to  sign up to just be able to comment on what is going on with the situation with Katherine and her so called boyfriend.  I saw absolutely no respect from the guy towards anyone not even Dr. Phil.  Abdulla ( or whatever) never looked into the camera, no eye contact, he was slow to speak, he skirted around answering some very important questions.he just didn't seem to be with it.   It was very hard to understand what he was saying, to me it just sounded like he was grunting, was he on something?
What kind of parent pays for a young girl to sneak away from her family, her country, her safety to go to a place where life isn't so respected, a place where a beautiful young girl could disappear, forever? If the parent is this disrespectful, how can the son be trusted ?  I have worked with children for the last 12 yrs. and many times I think  boy the old saying is true...'The apple doesn't fall to far from the tree.' This must be Katherine's Mom worst nightmare. Please Dr. Phil bring Katherine home. I really feel for the family. I sure hope the outcome is good.

 
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November 15, 2007, 9:11 pm PST

11/15 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

My mom married a guy from egypt that claimed he had millions of dollars but it all was in egypt..they have been married now for about mabie 4 years.I know that HAtE is a strong word but i never felt tthe way i feel about him.. I hate him he has done nothing for my mom or me..he is the biggest lier i have met.he does have a job now that he has had for almost a year i think....he live an a apartment with my mom and his 19 year old son. he told me that he wold take care of my mother and I... but still waiting for that care... i think he just used my mom to get his son into america and his self.. he is plainning to take my mom to egypt with him.. but i am scard for her i think he will hurt her and not let her come back to America.
 
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November 15, 2007, 9:13 pm PST

11/15 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

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 I have a strong disagreement on your opinion  about how you view muslims in general. You have failed to understand that all religions have a blood on their hands period. Jews and Christians are no better than Muslims or Buddists.  All religions have killers, criminals, and abusers.  There is no proof that Muslims are more evil than Jews or Christians. In the Middle Ages, Catholic people killed tons of Jews in Spain and Jews had no chose but convert their religion to Christians. If they refused to convert, their punishment was death!   Don't be too gullible with the Media.

  JEWS, OR GENTILES THEY ARE STILL THE SAME CHRISTIAN BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IN GOD, IN WHOM DOES THE MOSLEMS BELIEVE?
 
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November 15, 2007, 9:17 pm PST

Ummmmmmm ~ You're a Woman AND an Adult?

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I hate to sound like the devils advocate, but u never know where u might find love. A lot of Arab men are not suckers, and know very much what they want out of life.  I believe he may love her and she loves him, its just a culture difference. Im dating a man who is very different from myself, and I love him alot, and he loves me. Also we are not to young teens in love but full flege adults. 

Lemme see if I understand you ~ ~ ~ "A lot of Arab men are not suckers, and know very much what they want out of life." ??????? Ummmmmmmm ~ ~ ~ WHAT ARE YOU THINKING????? You are either one severely mixed up WOMAN ~ OR ~ an ARAB Mysoginist Male!!! Otherwise, you WOULD know that any "Rational-Cognitive-Clear Thinking" woman would kind of suspect that being in a relationship with an ARAB man who belittles you by calling you slut, whore, bitch, etc. MIGHT not be the most "wholesome" relationship to be in... Right??? GIVE ME A BREAK!
 
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November 15, 2007, 9:23 pm PST

You are Wrong

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  JEWS, OR GENTILES THEY ARE STILL THE SAME CHRISTIAN BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE IN GOD, IN WHOM DOES THE MOSLEMS BELIEVE?
Muslims believe in a God. Christians and Jews are not the same becasue Christians believe Jesus to be the son of God and Jews do not. There is a difference.
 
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November 15, 2007, 9:25 pm PST

Did Katherine come home

After watching today's show I want to know if Katherine came home as she promised.

 

And she does look scared.  And again I ask why can't that man get a VISA to come to the United States?

 
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November 15, 2007, 9:26 pm PST

DR PHIL, COME ON!!

There's one quick fire way to find out if this boy is telling the truth, and love is based on truth right? ASK HIM WHAT THE STREET NAME WAS OF HIS ALLEGED LAGUNA BEACH HOUSE!!! If he can't answer that then he lied to win the girl over and she will see through him, I can all but bet that was a lie to woe her.
 
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November 15, 2007, 9:30 pm PST

Abuse Follow Up Show NOT SURPRISED

I was not surprised at all to learn that he had abused this poor child .I found the part where he thought that calling a women a bitch and a slut was normal to be profoundly irritating. I can tell by the look in her eyes that there was so much than what she was saying .I know the signs all to well  I know what it's like to be 18 and have someone older promise you the world Only to find out that the world they promised was filled with lies and hurt  that you will have to heal from daily .I have great empathy for this girls family I can't even imagine what they are going through .I'm happy that Dr. Phil is there we all know from watching his show that this story needs a Hero and I believe he is it .I wish he was around for me because I needed one also I get so much from his show daily so in a  way I got my hero as well   Sincerely   Joyphilly
 
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November 15, 2007, 9:33 pm PST

Did you notice?

 Did you notice when Katherine had a chance to talk what she did NOT say?  Like "I am fine - don't worry everythings great, etc.."   Wouldn't a daughter normally say things like that to her family?  She knows they are scared to death for her, but she did nothing to reassure them that she was ok. That was a huge sign to me. That guy seems like a weasel and obviously lies. I am from the midwest too and we never think this kind of thing will happen to our kids, so scary!!

I know it doesn't help to ask these questions now, but why did she have a cell phone after she was back the first time?  Why did they let her talk on the computer for hours a day?  Why did the family even talk to him and take his calls?  I am thinking if they would have cut off contact as much as possible, eventually he would have moved on to someone else.  I have a now 18 year old and know how sneaky  kids can be - especially when they are 'in love' but you have to stay on top of things the best you can.

When is the  3rd part going to air???!
See, this is what I get for staying home sick and watching this show. Now I am all upset and have to Tivo Dr Phil now.  Darn you!!  :)

 

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November 15, 2007, 9:40 pm PST

What's Really Going On??

This is so hard.  I really feel for her family.  And for her--she has no idea what is truly in store for her.  She's still a child, a very immature 18 year old, but she's headstrong, willful, and unless she can get out and come home, soon, she is really going to regret it deeply!!!  Also, she is "soiled" (or spoiled) goods.  No Muslim (male or female) would respect her.  This is one reason he's abusive to her.  Muslim women and girls are "protected", cannot spend time alone with men, in some countries they cannot even talk to a man in public, etc.  She has gone against his custom/culture simply by flying there, being with him, etc.  It's as if there was no one to protect her--i.e. that she is not esteemed.  Apparently, she has low esteem...

 

I've met women who married non-American Muslim men.  One particular case involved a woman who married an Iranian man, who came to the U.S. to go to school.  He disrespected, abused, her, etc. He wanted total custody of their son after the divorce, but it was denied in the courts.  He told her that when the boy turned 10, (said a boy should be with his mother until age 10),  he would "get" him and take him to Iran, that she would never see him again, that she couldn't stop him, etc.  She had the boy's Passport placed in a safe deposit box, had a "safety" plan in place, but was always afraid.  I don't know what happened when ***  turned 10.

 

I've been to the Middle East 3 times, years ago, as a tourist.  Frankly, the average, common person is very nice, though the culture is very different.  I was invited into several private homes.  In one country several men talked "marriage", almost with no preamble.  I simply chuckled--they were just kidding or were trying to get to the U.S.  However, one man really "hit on me" with his family involved, and it was "heady", but I wasn't stupid enough to try to marry him.  While in Jordan once, there was an article in the Amman newspaper about an honor killing, which was illegal at that time.  The males in the family had the nine year old son kill his sister, because he wouldn't be tried as an adult, etc.

 

Since we are in a war on terror, I would not go to the Middle East again.

 

Possible things about this man:

 

1. Maybe He simply wants an American girlfriend or wife, or,

2. He simply wants to come to the U.S, and/or

3.  He could be a terrorist.  He could be intending to use her as a terrorist, though unbeknown to her, of course.  Remember the Lockaby (Scotland) plane bombing?  An unsuspecting  woman was used by a terrorist to carry a bomb on that plane.  This girl is so green that he could strap explosives on her, or he could hand her a bag (with explosives) to carry somewhere and she, along with others would be blown up.  As a blond, she would not be suspected in some places--she doesn't "look like" a terrorist.  I sure hope they don't get into Israel.  I also hope he doesn't come here.

 

In any event, she is going to regret that she was so headstrong; hopefully, she will be alive to regret doing this.

 

Praying for her family.

 
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