Topic : 06/17 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

Though I respect your thoughts I disagree with your message. She isn't in danger because he is Muslim, (Islam is a religion it doesn't determine how you are as a person) if she is in danger at all it is because she seems to be a somewhat immature and got hooked up with a lying, controlling guy. These type of men exist in all cultures and places. You say "I'm sure there are tons of Muslim men that don't fall into beating of the wives, honor killings, but I believe most of these are American Muslims." Again I totally disagree. Muslims in Asia, Africa, and the Middle East are generally good people, there are over 1 billion, certainly not even half of them are bad people. I am Muslim and have seen Muslims from both the Middle East and the U.S. There is no difference. Some are educated, some are understanding, some come from wealth, some come from poverty, some are progressive, some are moderate, some are extremely religious, some are even radical in thought. It varies person to person. It has nothing to do with where the reside because there are many even in the Middle East who have access to American and European universities. People are individuals regardless of where they live or what religion they are from, it seems silly to say people even Muslims in the U.S. are good but somehow the same people are bad if they live somewhere else. I don't see the logic...

You are confusing two issues. There is Islam then there is the various cultures and laws in various countries. Some of these laws or cultural issues are actually in contradiction to Islamic teachings.

Islam: Premarital sex is punishable by lashings (worse case scenario). I can provide text/quotes from Quran and Hadith if you insist.

Culture: There are some crazy people out there who take the law into their own hands and go beyond the Islamic rules. These people are in grave error. They are putting their culture ahead of the religion which is prohibited in Islam.

Women have various issues across the world but it depends on many factors: country culture, which class they belong to, the socio-economic issues facing that country, education levels etc. This is not specific to Muslim or Arab countries. This happens in the US, Latin America, Asia, Europe, etc. In Islam, women are not considered second class and do have rights. In some countries there are isues but again these are against Islamic teachings and have come into play for the reasons I have just stated.

Women are not the property of their husbands this is why when Muslim women get married they do not take on the  last name of their husbands. Muslim women have their own identities and for this reason they keep their last names. Look into the history of why "western" women take on the name of their husbands. You will be surprised. This has NEVER been the case for Muslim women. Muslim women have their own lineage and own identities. In some poorer countries among poor uneducated classes women are mistreated and this is an unfortunate situation but do not confuse these cultural socio-economic issues with the religion. They are two separate things. Think about the poorer classes in our own country. Abuse happens everywhere but many women in poor classes in our own society fall victim to many of these same issues and also feel stuck without any way to escape. Not "honor" killings but other abuse. Remember that in this country 50% of pregnant women who die are actually KILLED by their significant other. That is a fact and sad.

First of all, all i have to say is that this girl is brainwashed and she was sucked in by him because i was in the same situation for 2 years. I met a Moroccan man that just made me believe that he was the best and that everything he was saying was true and that he was the only one that understood me. I am 18 an i met him when i was about 15 and a half. He basically changed the way i thought and i was always soo grumpy and i was always cursing at my parents and not listening to them at all. What is different about my situation is that my parents did not know that i was talking to him or how old he was. He is 17 years my senior and i almost married him., He had me convinced that it was okay to marry at a young age and have children and stay at home and take care of the household. He even convinced me that i do not need to go to college because he will be making enough money to support the family. Thank God Almighty that I was smart enought not to do anything without telling my parents on my 18 birthday. When they found out what was going on my father forbid me to see him and that was it. If Katherines mom does not convince her to get back to the  U.S. she will never see  her again. As many have pointed out, once she is in their country, they will decide whether or not she can leave and i can say another thing, as soon as they are married, they will have children, IMMEDIATELY. The best way to talk to Katherine is to lie and tell her that they approve just to get  her back on U.S. soil . Once she is here, just tell her about what she could have done and if she is smart, she will realize on her own what she could have gotten herself into. Also, replying to this :

You are very correct. 

Yes, hind sight is always 20/20, but there is something to be said for not letting children do whatever they want.

Shawn just figured her kid was a good kid and would make the right choice.

I guess this is a lesson that we should all be aware of.  I have a brand new niece and d*mn skippy she won't be allowed unsupervised access to any kind of internet or phone calls.  It's a different world we live in now so we just have to be more nosey about what our kids are doing...even if they are basically good kids, they are still just that...kids.  So, they don't always think things through.

I am praying for Katherine's family.  I saw on that trailer that she made it home.  I wonder if they could get her committed somewhere so she doesn't run back over there.

MY GOD WHAT IS THIS GIRL THINKING.I THINK SHE IS IN DANGER.THAT'S FOR SURE.I REALLY HOPE DR.PHIL CAN GET HER OUT.I FEEL FOR THE PARENTS.I HAD A SISTER THAT WENT TO IRAN AND WE HAD A REALLY HARD TIME GETTING HER OUT.HER LIFE WAS IN DANGER THEN MY SISTER HAD A LITTLE BABY GIRL AND WE HAD TO GET THE BABY OUT TO.BUT WHEN MY DAD STEPPED IN THEN HEADS ROLLED.MY SISTER NEVER WENT BACK THANK GOD.THAT LADY THAT WAS ON THE SHOW THAT SAID SHE HAD TO HIDE FROM HER HUSBAND.I BELIEVE HER BECAUSE MY SISTER IS STILL HIDING.AND IF HE EVER COMES TO CANADA TO FIND HER ILL BE THERE.THIS IS TO CATHERINE'S FAMILY I KNOW WHAT YOUR GOING THROUGH.AND I WILL PRAY THAT YOUR DAUGHTER COMES HOME SAFE.MY ONLY CONCERN THAT I HOPE SHE CAN GET OUT OF THERE ALIVE.I ONLY WISH DR.PHIL HAD OF BEEN AROUND WHEN WE WERE TRYING TO GET MY SISTER OUT OF IRAN.WE HAD TO CHANGE MY SISTER'S NAME AND THE BABY'S TO OUR NAME BEFORE THEY WOULD LET HER GO.AND THEN IT TOOK A VERY LONG TIME TO GET MY SISTER OUT.I REALLY DIDN'T THINK WE WERE GOING TO GET HER OUT. OR EVEN OUT A LIVE THANK YOU DR.PHIL FOR HELPING THIS FAMILY THEY REALLY REALLY DO NEED YOU.THANK GOD FOR YOU DR,PHIL

                                               CUDDLES05

                                                FROM CANADA

When will the rest of the story air? I see he apparently got her back based on the preview at the end of 2