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Topic : 06/17 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

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(Original Air Date: 11/15/07) Dr. Phil continues the story of a young woman who made international headlines when she ran away to Palestine to be with a man she met on the Internet when she was just 16. Katherine was stopped by the FBI and brought back home, but two years later and now an adult, she’s left the United States again to be with Abdullah, the man she says she loves and wants to marry. Katherine’s terrified family thinks she is being brainwashed, and may never be allowed to return home. They say they’ve witnessed Abdullah’s violent temper when he’s verbally abused her over the phone. Now, in an exclusive interview via satellite, Dr. Phil speaks with Katherine and Abdullah together. Is Abdullah lying about letting Katherine return home? Is this couple already married? Talk about the show here.

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November 17, 2007, 1:57 pm PST

He doesnt even LUST her!

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THE BOTTOM LINE OF THIS SHOW WAS THAT KATHERINE IS SO IMMATURE. SHE IS NOT SMART AT ALL.  MAYBE HER RELATIVES WANT TO THINK SO, BUT SHE IS JUST ANOTHER IMMATURE, LAZY GIRL THAT IS OBVIOUSLY LOOKING FOR SOMETHING.  THE SOMETHING SHE FOUND IS THAT (WOW) SHE CAN FIND A GUY ON LINE...WHO TURNS OUT TO BE MORE IMMATURE THAN HER. HIS PARENTS SPOIL HIM BY BUYING KATHERINE FOR HIM!  OBVIOUS POINT:  WHY DIDN'T HIS PARENTS JUST GIVE HIM A PLANE TICKET TO COME TO HER???? WHY? BECAUSE THEY WANT HIM TO STAY THERE!!!   THAT BOY (YES...HE'S A LITTLE BOY) HAS A VERY BIG ANGER PROBLEM. HE CANNOT EVEN CONTROL HIMSELF.  HE CANNOT SHOW PEOPLE INCLUDING HIS GIRLFRIEND RESPECT. HE LOSES HIS TEMPER. HE IS SO VERY, VERY  PARANOID. HE HAS NO SELF-RESPECT.  HE IS A BABY!!!  KATHERINE, WHY WOULD YOU EVER BE ATTRACTED TO A BABY LIKE THIS???   THAT IS BECAUSE YOU ARE IN "LUST" NOT LOVE.  YOU BETTER GET AWAY FROM THIS I-D-I-O-T  BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.  INSTEAD OF PALISTINE, WHY NOT GO TO LA OR VEGAS OR NEW YORK.  BET YOU'VE NEVER BEEN THERE EITHER.  YOU COULD HAVE A LOT MORE FUN.  WAY TOO MANY FISH OUT THERE.  HE IS A CONTROLLING JERK.  WAKE UP, GIRL.  YOU COULD DO A MILLION TIMES BETTER.  YOU JUST NEED TIME.  NO GUY DOES THE THINGS TO YOU AND SAYS HE LOVES YOU.  HE DOES NOT LOVE YOU...HE JUST LUSTS YOU.

LUST???? NO......HE has a plan.......There is not even an ounce of love/lust whatever you call it!

"THE PLAN" IS ALL HE CARES ABOUT.

 
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November 17, 2007, 2:36 pm PST

A Walk in Parents Shoes

This is to Kathrine's mother. I have great empathy and understanding how you feel.  I have gone through this with my daughter, more than once. From the poorest section of Romanian mountains to the middle east-There were many other incidents, I cannot discus.  I received phone calls from her at 2:00-4:00AM, my daughter crying. I prayed all the time for her safe return. Only once I made phone calls and arrangements to get her home. It is quite surprising just how much a mother can do,when she puts her mind to it. For there is no greater love in the human world, than a mothers' love for her child. Katherine got pulled into what seemed to be an exciting adventure with someone she trusted. She is young and this is just an adventure for her. True, it is dangerous, but, she WILL have to learn this on her own. Right now, you will be the last person she will listen to. She would listen to a stranger quicker than you. The more you pull- the more she will pull away. All teenagers do this.My daughter was determined to show me- that she could do anything she pleased. They all think their parents don't know anything. My strong advise: Tell her you love her and will try to love him (fiance). Smile...like you are ok with the marriage, if it's done in the US. When she does return, DO NOT YELL, SCREAM OR THREATEN HER- that will push her away again. Just be very sweet, loving, and tell her it was NOT her fault she was conned. When she gets back, she will feel very hurt, letdown and with NO self-esteem. She will need much love. If only our children always walked the path WE wanted them to! But they never will. We can only teach and try to lovingly guide them to the right direction. My prayers are with you and Katherine- also, my daughter sends her prayers. Love and with GOD SPEED!

 
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November 17, 2007, 3:03 pm PST

Next Show

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When will the episode air where Katherine is back in the US and discusses the abuse that happened while she was in the MIddle East?
The next show is scheduled to air November 26.
 
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November 17, 2007, 3:37 pm PST

What happened to Katherine?

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A Danger Daughter In Part Phil Two. Just like one part in Doctor House Phil. See you on Thursday Novem-

ber 15th, 2007. Sincerley Your. Russell Vlaanderen.-------------------------------------------------------------------------- 

I thoughtDr. phil was going to have her on so we could see how she is now.  Could I have missed that show?
 
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November 17, 2007, 3:51 pm PST

KNOW YOUR FACTS...

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Dear Dr. Phil

 

I would like to comment on the show about the girl that went to Palestine to be with Abdullah:
I am very disappointed in the way you handled this situation. I believe you were bias and it seemed like the show was more political than ethical.
For one, Katherine is 18 years old and under law, like you said, she is allowed to do what ever she wants.
It was her choice to go to Palestine. She was not kidnapped and she was not threatened to go to Palestine. It is usually glorified when people meet and fall in love when they are in seperate countries. You made it seem like this man is going to do something dangerous to her. We are in a world full of danger. She can be dating someone within the states who can also be dangerous. Second is you made it seem like it was not hard for a palestinian man to obtain a visa when in fact, it is almost impossible. With the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, Israeli's make it very hard for young men to come to the states unless they are married to someone that is a U.S citizen. You do not what his personal situation is, to know why he did not obtain a visa. In order for someone to obtain a visa, you can not have any criminal record with the Israeli government. If he was ever imprisoned, you will never ever be able to obtain a visa. I have friends and family from both genders that do not have any criminal background and tried to obtain a visa, but was declined. Why????? That is a question for Israel and no one knows why they do not give the young ones opportunity to come to ths states. I lived in Palestine for a few years and there are a few facts that you needed to know: One, in Palestine, Katherine and Abdullah are allowed to get married, although she is a Christian and he is Muslim. I think Abdullah is just dieing to come to the states, but he needs Katherine to sponsor him. That is why he told her that they can only get married in the states, Secondly, If she does have a baby. There is no law enforcement that states she is not allowed to bring her baby with. If Katherine goes to the American Embassy, then they will make arrangements for her to take the child with her since she is an American citizen.
I personally did not like Abdullah's personality, but I did not believe Katherine was in danger. They are both naive and do not know whats best for them. They are both young. I believe the goal of the show was to portray middle eastern men in a negative way. Thats why you brought in the woman that fled from Iran. If your show focused on meeting men online from around the world and gave us stories from different countries, then I would not been this upset. I do think Abdullah was definitely lieing, but I do not believe it was for the reasons you made it out to be. I am a loyal fan, but after this show, I lost respect for you and what you stand for. I have always thought of you as a fair man. I was wrong. Thank you

If she marries him there. The husband controls where she goes, AND he has priority "ownership" of any child they have. FACT. The show was not about middle eastern men- it was about the way she got there and the area of the world that she is in, because IT IS dangerous for a young inexperienced woman to be there. Thank God for Dr Phil trying to help. Shame on you.
 
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November 17, 2007, 4:38 pm PST

Part 3

When will part 3 air on TV?
 
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November 17, 2007, 4:57 pm PST

The Mother?

Dr Phil

 

There's one thing I don't understand about the Mother (Sean)..

 

Why would she ever let her daughter back on the computer after she came back the first time?  I mean, she said she continued to talk with him over the net..  Did Katherine not live with her mother?  I mean, it seems as if Sean had buckled down on her when she was 16, she would have never went there to live in the first place....

 

Kathy

 
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November 17, 2007, 5:22 pm PST

11/15 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

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Dear Dr. Phil

 

I would like to comment on the show about the girl that went to Palestine to be with Abdullah:
I am very disappointed in the way you handled this situation. I believe you were bias and it seemed like the show was more political than ethical.
For one, Katherine is 18 years old and under law, like you said, she is allowed to do what ever she wants.
It was her choice to go to Palestine. She was not kidnapped and she was not threatened to go to Palestine. It is usually glorified when people meet and fall in love when they are in seperate countries. You made it seem like this man is going to do something dangerous to her. We are in a world full of danger. She can be dating someone within the states who can also be dangerous. Second is you made it seem like it was not hard for a palestinian man to obtain a visa when in fact, it is almost impossible. With the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, Israeli's make it very hard for young men to come to the states unless they are married to someone that is a U.S citizen. You do not what his personal situation is, to know why he did not obtain a visa. In order for someone to obtain a visa, you can not have any criminal record with the Israeli government. If he was ever imprisoned, you will never ever be able to obtain a visa. I have friends and family from both genders that do not have any criminal background and tried to obtain a visa, but was declined. Why????? That is a question for Israel and no one knows why they do not give the young ones opportunity to come to ths states. I lived in Palestine for a few years and there are a few facts that you needed to know: One, in Palestine, Katherine and Abdullah are allowed to get married, although she is a Christian and he is Muslim. I think Abdullah is just dieing to come to the states, but he needs Katherine to sponsor him. That is why he told her that they can only get married in the states, Secondly, If she does have a baby. There is no law enforcement that states she is not allowed to bring her baby with. If Katherine goes to the American Embassy, then they will make arrangements for her to take the child with her since she is an American citizen.
I personally did not like Abdullah's personality, but I did not believe Katherine was in danger. They are both naive and do not know whats best for them. They are both young. I believe the goal of the show was to portray middle eastern men in a negative way. Thats why you brought in the woman that fled from Iran. If your show focused on meeting men online from around the world and gave us stories from different countries, then I would not been this upset. I do think Abdullah was definitely lieing, but I do not believe it was for the reasons you made it out to be. I am a loyal fan, but after this show, I lost respect for you and what you stand for. I have always thought of you as a fair man. I was wrong. Thank you

Why do you think he is lying? 

 
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November 17, 2007, 5:23 pm PST

A Daughter In Danger Part 2

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Yes, my wife and I watched the 2 parts and to show a 3rd part and not say when it airs, just stinks! Anyone know when this concluding show about Katherine will air, please let me (us) know?

 

At 18 yrs old, she is living her fantasy life and for her wanting more time to be there, is just her way of stating, "Abdullah will be mad if I cam home right away".

 

Somebody posted that Part III is on November 26th, but why didn't Dr. Phil announce it?  can anyone confirm this date?  Thanks

 
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November 17, 2007, 5:24 pm PST

what about in English?

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It's not his culture.... As I said in another post calling a women a bitch in Arabic is a very, very serious matter. No women would be called that there, it would not only be a huge insult to her, whoever said it would be considered really low and would probably recieve a punch from the girl's brother/father. This guy just is a compulsive liar, in my eyes, it's as simple as that.

I see it all the time on the internet.

They ARE raised to treat western women that way.

Maybe they just don't let all you "good, chaste, muslim women" hear it.

You know, it's getting  harder and harder to hide the way they think with the clerics sermons being broadcast all over the internet all the time.

I love the internet!

Without it we'd never know that they say one thing to our faces and another behind our backs.

 

 
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