Quote From: michaelacDo you know what "in context means"? It means IN ARABIC, with the explanation from the scholars (people who are studied in Islam, jurisprudence, fiqh, Arabic language, history, etc) based on the hadith that show when the verse was revealed and what was happening when it was revealed. That is the context I am talking about not the verse that comes before and the verse that comes after the one Valeria is referring to.
The "hunting of Jews" is based on a specific battle fought between the Muslims and a specific Jewish tribe. This is an established historical fact and anyone who has actually studied Islam knows that this was not a mandate for all time but for a specific tribe who broke a treaty with the Muslims. Do you want me to find the actual hadith on the subject? BTW, I am not hiding the fact that God commanded those to fight against this tribe but it was a specific case as I mentioned.
I already posted tons of stuff on beating women. It is ludicrous and not supported by the Quran or any hadith. Period.
There is also no text about "killing infidels" in the Quran in fact it talks about the EXACT opposite. I have also posted several statements on this with verses from the Quran. Search my name and you can see those.
No one Muslim omits verses from the Quran. This is considered leaving the fold of Islam. That is definitely NOT what I am saying or have said in these posts.
The Quran is the revelation given to Muhammad in Arabic anything else is not the Quran. This is a major difference between Islam and specifically Christianity as you mentioned. We do not have the right to attempt to change Islam because we might not like something. This then turns from worship of God to worship and following one's own desires.
As a convert, I can tell you that people convert after VERY serious study. It is not a lifestyle you adopt just for a change in atmosphere, to snag a man or whatever crazy ideas people may have out there. It is about true belief and when we have questions we can ask a knowledgeable person whether at the mosque or otherwise and there are always answers to those questions. Those answers are based on PROOF. There is a huge emphasis on this in Islam. No one can say something about Islam without textual evidence. The textual evidence is Quran and hadith (recorded sayings and actions of the Prophet).
I am also a convert and was absolutely outraged at the comment as well - I have nothing to add to your comment except that as a convert myself, that simple fact that thq Quran was not changed even one SINGLE accent since the time of the Prophet (Peace be upon him) was so unique and beautiful.
To the original poster - Where people get off changing the Bible and Torahs I have no idea. Why would you change something that was sent by God in your own belief? What, God messed up and you want to be more catered towards? Come on, we all know that isn't sensical.
Even in Hadith, there is a very strict 'coding' system where scholars of hadith basically look at each person the narration was related by (chain of narrators) and categorize it from 'Weak' to 'Sahih/Perfect' Only the strong ones are actually used for rulings in law. Why would Muslims take what has been perfected by God and change it? Just so we can get some pork or have some alcohol? Or maybe it would be so we can have pre-marital sex (Which BTW, last I checked, is till unlawful in Christian theology as well) - Uh, NO! Muslims chose to cater towards God, after all, He created us. Our parents have rights over us, so do our spouses and friends and children, does God not have rights over us? Thnk about it. What is praying 5 times a day? What harm does THAT do? Considering He is the creator, I thinkI can take out 20 minutes of my day and pray. i don't think it is much....
Funny thing is, Dr. Phil never once mentioned ANYTHING about the fact he is Muslim - it was you, the viewers who have shown your bigotry on this board and made this an anti-Muslim conversation. It is sad that Americans have every resource in the world and pride themselves on their level of understanding, acceptance and eduation about other cultures, yet you chose to remain ignorant of the #2 largest religion in the world. You allow big corporatioins and news casts to tell you about the world around you. It truely is a shame.
(Original Air Date: 11/15/07) Dr. Phil continues the story of a young woman who made international headlines when she ran away to Palestine to be with a man she met on the Internet when she was just 16. Katherine was stopped by the FBI and brought back home, but two years later and now an adult, she’s left the United States again to be with Abdullah, the man she says she loves and wants to marry. Katherine’s terrified family thinks she is being brainwashed, and may never be allowed to return home. They say they’ve witnessed Abdullah’s violent temper when he’s verbally abused her over the phone. Now, in an exclusive interview via satellite, Dr. Phil speaks with Katherine and Abdullah together. Is Abdullah lying about letting Katherine return home? Is this couple already married? Talk about the show here.
