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Topic : 06/17 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

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Created on : Thursday, November 08, 2007, 07:39:52 pm
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(Original Air Date: 11/15/07) Dr. Phil continues the story of a young woman who made international headlines when she ran away to Palestine to be with a man she met on the Internet when she was just 16. Katherine was stopped by the FBI and brought back home, but two years later and now an adult, she’s left the United States again to be with Abdullah, the man she says she loves and wants to marry. Katherine’s terrified family thinks she is being brainwashed, and may never be allowed to return home. They say they’ve witnessed Abdullah’s violent temper when he’s verbally abused her over the phone. Now, in an exclusive interview via satellite, Dr. Phil speaks with Katherine and Abdullah together. Is Abdullah lying about letting Katherine return home? Is this couple already married? Talk about the show here.

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November 15, 2007, 1:06 pm PST

upcoming show

I watched the show both part one and two, and at the end of part two they showed a preview of  the upcoming show about when Katherine returns. They show her crying and talking about what really happened in the Middle East. I don't know if I just missed the date, but when is that on? Or didn't they say?
 
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November 15, 2007, 1:07 pm PST

Katherine and Abdullah

I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS GIRL IS 18 but DIDN'T 9/11 TEACH HER ANYTHING? IS SHE TOTALLY BRAINWASHED??

 

IF HISTORY HAS EVER TAUGHT US ANYTHING AT ALL, IT IS THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE EXTREMELY DANGEROUS AND SHE'S IN TO BE FITTED FOR A COFFIN OR WHATEVER THESE PEOPLE DO TO AMERICANS. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY HOMELAND SECURITY IS NOT INVOLVED HERE.  I SAW THE FILM ABOUT MS. MAHMOODY YEARS AGO AND THIS KID NEEDS TO GET BACK TO HER FREE HOME HERE IN THE US AND GO THROUGH SOME KIND OF INTENSIVE THERAPY THAT THEY PROVIDE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN KIDNAPPED. SHE SHOWS SIGNS OF PERHAPS STOCKHOLM SYNDROME, MEANING SHE HAS BECOME ATTACHED TO HER CAPTOR AND SYMPATHIZES WITH HIM AND HID OBVIOUSLY DEMENTED BEHAVIOR.  IF SHE DOESN'T WANT HER LAST MEMORY FOR HER MOTHER TO BE HER DECAPITATED HEAD BEING HELD UP FOR THE PRESS, SHE NEEDS TO COMPLY WITH THE HELP THAT DR. PHIL IS PROVIDING FOR HER.

 
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November 15, 2007, 1:12 pm PST

Today's show

Things like that happen because parents allow their young kids to have a computer in their bedroom with internet and let them do whatever they want and don't check on them it isn't myspace.com fault or internet its PARENTS!!!!!
 
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November 15, 2007, 1:13 pm PST

Visa and Katherines Happiness

Was it just me or was Adullah unable to get his story straight about getting a visa!

 

If Katherine is so happy with Adullah and being with him, then why did she look so miserable. I didn't even see the poor girl crack a smile. It seems like she knows she got herself in a horrible situation and doesn't know how to get out. That is soo Awsome that Dr. Phil is flying her home! I hope once shes home, she'll  change her mind bout him.

 

Can someone tell me where i get updated information on stories if there hasn't or isn't going to be another updated show.

 

Thank You!

 
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November 15, 2007, 1:13 pm PST

This is A Tough Topic!!!!

This is a tough one all around.

 

What I want to know is how do we all feel after seeing the previews for the next part of Bringing Katherine back???

I mean, I'm someone who knows I guess you could say second hand about this. I have a cousin who married a man from the Middle East. We all thought very highly of him. He had been in the country for about 5 years when he and Lori met. They married and had a child. A son. He was pretty much the perfect son in law. He was well educated and became an Engineer taking care of Lori and their son very well.

Like I said, he was the perfect son in law, perfect husband, the whole package.

 

About the time that their son was 3 Aman asked Lori if she would come with him to his country to see his parents. His mother and father had only seen pictures of their grandson and were very eager to meet him in person as well as their daughter in law.

Lori was hesitant at first not because of Aman at all, but because of the things that she had heard about  other women and their stories.

My Aunt and Uncle were beside themselves with worry and fear. They didn't want Aman to feel like they didn't want him to be able to go back to see his family either with his son, but Aman was totally understanding.

In the end though, they did go to the Middle East and were there for vacation for 2 months. Every day that they were gone my Aunt and Uncle lived in total fear that they may not ever see their daughter and grandson and son in law for that matter ever again. I mean, they had this horrible fear and they had known Aman's parents and become relitively close with them through email and telephone. But that fear was still there as evident as it is with Shawn and her family about Katherine.

We were lucky because at the end of the vacation, there was no suprise ambush. Lori and Aman both returned to the United States with their son and they have actually since returned two other times for vacations.

This was in the mid 90's when they took their first trip.

 

I guess the reason that I'm sharing this story is because Lori's story was not a bad one. They had a normal life here but because of the way it is so often in the Middle East, she and her family feared for so many reasons.

Even Aman was very understanding of their concerns.

 

I don't see that with Abdullah. And after seeing the previews for the next show, I know that her family was right. Usually when you have that feeling in your gut like Shawn has, it's their for a reason.

 

I just hope that everything works out.

 

Thanks for reading my message!!!!

 
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November 15, 2007, 1:16 pm PST

Katherine in Palestine

This is a sad situation.  I have lived it right here in the good ole US of A...   There are major differences in the beliefs of people from the Middle East and those raised here, as well as the religious differences.  However, when you set that aside, this man is nothing but a con.  THEY exist everywhere.  A "man" came into my daughters life while she was still in college. She was 22,not 18.  It was a long distance relationship much done by phone.  He took notes of things she said and repeated them later--after she was with him, she found the notes.  He told her everything she wanted to hear.  He would tell her her family would say and do things to come between them, then he manipulated the situation to prove he was right. He would monitor every phone call  He was a high school drop-out mama's boy.  Mom called the shots and told him what to do to manipulate her.  He lied when the truth fit better as does Abdullah.  It was very obvious Abdullah lied about his visa, I am sure he does not have a million dollars unless he stole it.  If I am not mistaken, a video clip on the show showed him cutting hair.  If his family is so well off, why are they not living in one of the mansions in the Middle East--they are fine!!  the jerk my daughter was with moved cross country to convince her he cared.  Called off work all the time as he hated to go there, the people were so stupid.  He was so smart...and it worked for awhile, but as soon as he convinced her to move cross country and live with his family, she started seeing the real him  (the rest of us already knew).  He emotionally abused her and threw things and even held a loaded gun to her head.  He told her noone else would ever want her....he was wrong.  She finally saw the light and got out.  I am sure he still lives with mama.  She is happily married to great guy, with children and a bright future.  When she left to go cross country with the jerk, I feared for her very life--justifiably so...  All is well, but it took some time.  I sure hope from the previews Katherine has seen this and learns a HUGE lesson from this. 

 
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November 15, 2007, 1:16 pm PST

11/15 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

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I really feel Shawn's emotions.  It is so hard when your child takes a direction that is wrong.  In Shawn's case it is so much worse because of the international aspect.  God bless Dr. Phil for his efforts to get Katherine back on U. S. soil. I think maybe she's ready, but doesn't want to make her situation worse over there. I do believe there is abuse --at least mental and most likely physical, there.  I watched 'Not Without my Daughter' and it does look as if Katherine is headed down the same path.I know there will be a follow-up show about the outcome of this event.

 

 

As much as I was glued to the show, one thing that diverted me from the conversations was calling Jill Katherines 'great aunt'.  There is no such thing, any more than there is a 'great mother'.  It would be grand aunt if she is the sister of a grandparent..

You obviously don't know American vernacular.  Jill is Shawn's Aunt and great aunt is what she is to Katherine.

 
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November 15, 2007, 1:19 pm PST

Missing the Point

I do not believe that the reason why Katherine is in danger is bec he is the from Middle East.  No.  The reason she is in danger is bec he lied to her, lied to her family, and (according to the preview for the third installment of the show) has bitten her and kicked her.  On top of that, he has called her vicious names.  It would not matter what country he is from........  the way he has acted and is acting is repulsive.  No man who claims to love a woman would lie to her, to the family, and abuse her.  Would you consider calling her vicious names abuse?  Would you consider kicking and biting her abuse? ...... It doesn't matter how old he is, where he is from or what kind of music he listens too.... if a man is doing this do a woman (or viceversa) it is abuse! 

 
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November 15, 2007, 1:20 pm PST

I did this

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I am so worried for this young woman.  When I began watching Part 1 yesterday, I immediately got  a bad feeling.  I hope she sticks to her word and comes home.  I hope she stays home because there is no good reason for her to be in not only a danger zone, but with a man that obviously cannot be trusted.
I wanted to run away and get married when i was a sophmore in high school.  when i told my parents they were so upset and scared for me.  But, to keep me from running aways my dad signed the papers and we had a tiny wedding - we eloped- and we are still married four years later. but, there is something missing from  this guy, its like he lacks emotions. 
 
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November 15, 2007, 1:20 pm PST

the situation is not under control

i know that i am only 19 years old, but after watching the show about the 18 year old girl going all the way to the mddle east to meet up with some guy she met on myspace, i found myself very worried for her. i do not see how she can be so naive as to think they are going to have this fairy tale life together. i noticed that she did not act as happy as she said she was. the look on her face gave me the impression that she does not want to stay over there. i think that Katherine needs to come back home and if they really love each other, they will survive until he can come to the United States. i really believe that Abdullah is just using her to get a ticket to the U.S. Katherine has a lot of growing up to do before she evev considers getting married. she needs to go to college and get an education, and find out who she is and what she wants in life. i hope she keeps her promise to Dr. Phil, but i have my doubts.
 
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