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Topic : 06/17 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

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(Original Air Date: 11/15/07) Dr. Phil continues the story of a young woman who made international headlines when she ran away to Palestine to be with a man she met on the Internet when she was just 16. Katherine was stopped by the FBI and brought back home, but two years later and now an adult, she’s left the United States again to be with Abdullah, the man she says she loves and wants to marry. Katherine’s terrified family thinks she is being brainwashed, and may never be allowed to return home. They say they’ve witnessed Abdullah’s violent temper when he’s verbally abused her over the phone. Now, in an exclusive interview via satellite, Dr. Phil speaks with Katherine and Abdullah together. Is Abdullah lying about letting Katherine return home? Is this couple already married? Talk about the show here.

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November 15, 2007, 2:24 pm PST

11/15 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

 Katherine is really playing with fire, getting involved with an abusive young man. Especially in a Moslem culture. Sure, the abuse might be only verbal, name-calling, right now. But, it could become physical. I'm not saying all Moslems abuse their wives. But, those who do, have the Koran to justify the abuse. It does permit men to beat their wives. Betty Mahmoody, Dr Phil's last guest, was brutally beaten by her husband before she escaped from Iran. But, she had no recourse. Living in a Moslem country. Read her book, Not Without My Daughter. It's an excellent, can't-put-it-down read. Much better than the movie.
 
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November 15, 2007, 2:28 pm PST

Amen!

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Things like that happen because parents allow their young kids to have a computer in their bedroom with internet and let them do whatever they want and don't check on them it isn't myspace.com fault or internet its PARENTS!!!!!

The  fact of the matter is you can't always trust what people say online and to keep you child safe, you HAVE to keep the computer in a room where there is a lot of family interaction. Cell phones are a privledge, not a neccesity. I'd have yanked that immediately if she were my daughter.

Having said all that, It's obvious that Shawn found herself in a difficult situation in dealing with her daughter being the "adult" age of 18 and balancing the fine line between trying to make your child understand what your concerns are without alienating them...very difficult to do, and so I'm not comfortabale at all with blaming the parents in this matter whatsoever. I do have one question. I saw the father on the sidelines but not interviewed nor did I see him on the show. I wonder what the relationship there is?

 
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November 15, 2007, 2:30 pm PST

Where are the men in this family?

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Where are the men in this family?  It is clear that this guy has no respect for women and/or the women of this family.  I am so glad that Dr. Phil is stepping up to the plate as a man for this family.

 

It is clear that this 18 year old is extremely immature, naive and selfish.  She has no responsibility for the outcome of her actions which either way will affect those that love her for the rest of their lives.

 
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November 15, 2007, 2:31 pm PST

Great Job

I thought Phil did a great job of doing the only thing he could do and that was pretend to reason with an unreasonable adult girl.

 

She was stopped at 16.  Great.

 

By 18 it is her choice. 

 

And her plea of 'I didn't know anything about Palestine, Muslim, Middle East,.  I don't believe.  If she is on the internet she knows how to Google..

 

And just from the little I've read, Muslims consider most American girls in the same vernacular as her boyfriend calls her.  And she has proved it by being there, hasn't she?

 

But on the other hand there are many of the same drama's being played out in the US. 

 

 
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November 15, 2007, 2:33 pm PST

She is in danger!

I think her family has every right to be concerned.  it is rare that this relationship does work. and her daughter will be hurt in the end.  my daughter is still involved with someone because they have a daughter together and i fear that he will take her and never let us see her again.  and he constantly told us that we stereotype his people. i have a problem when you illegaly come here and then lie to your advantage.  and abdullah is lying and is abusive.  katherine is young and naive and has alot of growing up to do and he is taking advantage of this!!  be aware and be careful>
 
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November 15, 2007, 2:33 pm PST

part 3

When will part 3 air
 
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November 15, 2007, 2:33 pm PST

stereotype?

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 I feel that these episodes are only perpetuating a steroetype.  Katherine may be in danger but her story is only one story.  Giving so much attention to this topic is sending a negative message to the American public, fear the Middle East and its people.  Yes there are issues with the Middle East but only showing these stories are only making things worse.  Situations like this are RARE.  Their are millions of Middle Easterners living in the US, US citizens living in the Middle East, and  interatial marragies between these people that are happy, healthy and successful.  Publicizing only the negative stories is creating more misundertanding and separation between Americans and Middle Easterners. Unless you are personally involved in a healthy realationship with a Middle Eastern, the only thing you will know about them are the negative, eagerated things you see on tv.  Again, these stories are encouraging stereotypes and hurting any hopes for a peaceful reationship between the US and the Middle East.  I am glad that Dr. Phil is trying to help this family but I think that showing only one side of this topic is adding to the misconceptions and prejudice that Americans have about Middle Easterners. 
You may well feel that this was a stereotypical portrayal of the middle east. However, you can't ignore the fact that  Abdulla's father, when katherine was 16, put her up in a hotel room, and got her on a plane to the GAZA STRIP. That's not stererotypical. There is a war going on there. Forget the rest of it and you still have to get the girl out!! The percieved stereotype is so negligible in light of the rest of the danger she's in! There is no room for "political correctness" in this story.
 
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November 15, 2007, 2:33 pm PST

What a laugh

Abdullah thinks he's going to get a fiance/e visa to come to the U.S. in 7 to 10 days.  For those that come from the Middle East, they are carefully scrutinized moreso than any other country (except for certain others).  It takes about a year and a half minimum to be approved from the Middle East and that is if he even gets approved.  The American girl has to show that she can support him in the U.S. also so he won't be a burden to the U.S. taxpayer (ex - collect welfare).  Who does she think will support the two of them until she or the two of them get a job?  Will it be mommy?  I can go on and on and on about the immigration process.  As for how I know this?  I went through the fiancee visa process coming out of Canada.  Other than this girl would be making a big mistake marrying this guy who lies and treats her with disrespect, someone better inform her of how the process above all works.
 
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November 15, 2007, 2:33 pm PST

11/15 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

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 I feel that these episodes are only perpetuating a steroetype.  Katherine may be in danger but her story is only one story.  Giving so much attention to this topic is sending a negative message to the American public, fear the Middle East and its people.  Yes there are issues with the Middle East but only showing these stories are only making things worse.  Situations like this are RARE.  Their are millions of Middle Easterners living in the US, US citizens living in the Middle East, and  interatial marragies between these people that are happy, healthy and successful.  Publicizing only the negative stories is creating more misundertanding and separation between Americans and Middle Easterners. Unless you are personally involved in a healthy realationship with a Middle Eastern, the only thing you will know about them are the negative, eagerated things you see on tv.  Again, these stories are encouraging stereotypes and hurting any hopes for a peaceful reationship between the US and the Middle East.  I am glad that Dr. Phil is trying to help this family but I think that showing only one side of this topic is adding to the misconceptions and prejudice that Americans have about Middle Easterners. 
I completely agree, it is just away to say, " hey look these damn arabs are kidnapping and "brainwashing" our daughters. There are plenty of American women happily married to middle eastern men and who travel to the middle east and are doing just fine.
 
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November 15, 2007, 2:34 pm PST

Daughter in Danger?

I'm trying to figure out why the Dr. Phil show is trying to muster up concern for a girl who is of age; who has committed no crime (other than being pretty immature) who decides to find a husband in another country--an immature guy who also doesn't seem to have committed any crimes.  Dr. Phil's resources would be better spent on someone in real need of help--not on a silly couple and her hysterical family.
 
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