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(Original Air Date: 11/15/07) Dr. Phil continues the story of a young woman who made international headlines when she ran away to Palestine to be with a man she met on the Internet when she was just 16. Katherine was stopped by the FBI and brought back home, but two years later and now an adult, she’s left the United States again to be with Abdullah, the man she says she loves and wants to marry. Katherine’s terrified family thinks she is being brainwashed, and may never be allowed to return home. They say they’ve witnessed Abdullah’s violent temper when he’s verbally abused her over the phone. Now, in an exclusive interview via satellite, Dr. Phil speaks with Katherine and Abdullah together. Is Abdullah lying about letting Katherine return home? Is this couple already married? Talk about the show here.

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November 15, 2007, 2:35 pm PST

11/15 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

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 I feel that these episodes are only perpetuating a steroetype.  Katherine may be in danger but her story is only one story.  Giving so much attention to this topic is sending a negative message to the American public, fear the Middle East and its people.  Yes there are issues with the Middle East but only showing these stories are only making things worse.  Situations like this are RARE.  Their are millions of Middle Easterners living in the US, US citizens living in the Middle East, and  interatial marragies between these people that are happy, healthy and successful.  Publicizing only the negative stories is creating more misundertanding and separation between Americans and Middle Easterners. Unless you are personally involved in a healthy realationship with a Middle Eastern, the only thing you will know about them are the negative, eagerated things you see on tv.  Again, these stories are encouraging stereotypes and hurting any hopes for a peaceful reationship between the US and the Middle East.  I am glad that Dr. Phil is trying to help this family but I think that showing only one side of this topic is adding to the misconceptions and prejudice that Americans have about Middle Easterners. 
I completely agree.
 
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November 15, 2007, 2:36 pm PST

Not His Fault

 Dr. Phil, it's not the mans fault. Why is okay with you Dr. Phil that he leave his family and come over here, but it's not okay for her to be over there. She is 18 you know. Explain this to everyone.
 
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November 15, 2007, 2:38 pm PST

Is she Crazy!!!

 This girl is stupid and putting her life in danger. She thinks that she is in 'love'. she obviously does not know what the meaning is. Dr Phil gave her a way to get home. She is in a WAR zone and people are going to get killed. She is immature and selfish and needs a good swift kick in the butt. God help her and her Family is in my prayers. Good luck to Shawn and the rest.
 
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November 15, 2007, 2:39 pm PST

I'd like to add to this

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I just wanted you to know that I have so much respect for you and what you are doing. So many parents out there today more or less just write their kids off when they come of age.  That is what my husbands parents did to him when he turned 18 and although he has made it without them, it would have been a lot better if he had had them to turn to when he needed it.

 

I just want to say to you that no matter how many times Katherine tells you to shut up and mind your own business or no matter how many times she's as nasty as she can be to you, don't stop fighting for your daughter.

You are a good mother and this is NOT your fault. No matter what Katherine was going to find a way to speak to Abdullah and eventually to be with him. I know it's hard not to say the things that you feel you need to say and that's fine. Say what you feel because even if she seems to not be listening, she is and it may save her life.

But, most importantly be there for her. Just be there to listen when she needs you because she's going to need you and I think everyone knows that. Abdullah knows that and I think that's what is making him feel so threatened.

 

I just want to commend you and your daughter for the lenghts that you have gone to in order to help Katherine.

You have that gut feeling for a reason and you HAVE to go with it. Katherine will thank you later. I believe that in her heart and her mind, where Abdullah can't get to her, she's thanking you now.

 

Stay strong and put your faith in Doctor Phil. He will do what ever needs to be done in order to bring your baby girl back to you and to safety.

Stay strong and know that you are doing all the right things. A mother has a divine animal right to protect the life of her offspring. You have that right Shawn and I commend you for the way you've handled this whole thing.

You must have an amazing strength. You do even if you don't feel like it right now.

 

Stay strong and keep fighting. I think we all know that it's not going to be easy but that's okay because the reward is great. Your daughter.

 

I hope that I was able to make you feel a little better by writing this to you. I look forward to seeing the end result of this with Katherine home where she belongs and resuming the life that she had before she was manipulated by Abdullah.

Good Luck and I wish you all the best, you and all of the rest of your family.

 

Thanks so much...............

 

A. Coulter

I would like you to know Shawn, that when my sister was a teenager, she was doing drugs, was with an abusive boyfriend, and my parents didn't know how to handle it. The only thing my mom really knew to do was to tell my sister every single night before my sister went to sleep, "I love you". Many times my sister swore at her at worst and at best  ignored her. But every single night, mom stayed up and waited for her to come in so she could tell her that.

 That was almost 30 years ago. A lot of that time is a fog for my sister, who is drug free now, but she remembers clearly those three words a child needs to hear no matter what.

Keep up the fight, we're with you!

 
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November 15, 2007, 2:40 pm PST

11/15 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

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I have been following this topic and I must say that I have had my own experience with my ex. I want this beautiful girl Katherine to understand that these things do happen and are not mde up. I had a relationship with a guy who was Palestinian. We were together for 5 1/2 years. It was the worst time in my life. I was separated from my family and friends, not allowed to communicate with anyone except his family. It was a very abusive relationship for me. He would beat me until I was unrecognizable. I was trapped, I have been beaten, kicked, had my head pounded into the corner of a waterbed, had my nose busted and had a gun held to my head while I was 7 1/2 months pregnant. Everything that Barbara Mamoody went through, I went through exept I never left the United States. I did see the movie of her life "Not without my daughter" and I felt everything, every emotion that this movie produced. I had to leave immediately after viewing it as I was sick and could not take it.

 

If you need someone to talk to, I wish I could say I'm here for you....I plead with you Katherine, come home, stay home....your family loves you and cares about you very much. You are in my thoughts and prayers.....

 

Stephanie

well i am married to a muslim iranian, and hes the best husband anyone can have. we are about to have our second child.  we've been together for seven years. we travel back and forth to Iran frequently. He is kind, calm, well mannered, educated and a hard worker. In fact I am the one who yells and argues and he is the one who is calm. I am sick of these stereo types. I have American friends married to drunken "american" men who beat them. Bad seeds can come from any country. You may have been married to a psychopath or had a "relationship" or whatever, and that is sad for you but there are plenty of women married to middle eastern men and are very happy and many women married to american men and miserable. Dr. Phil has shown plenty of nasty american ment. every society has their share of good and bad. This guy hasnt even done anything to her they are just assuming he is a jerk because of where he is from. this is just negative propaganda to make people hate muslims
 
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November 15, 2007, 2:40 pm PST

surprised

Until I saw the preview at the end that the girl actually came home i was shocked to think that Dr. Phil kept saying that they can't hear him in Israel, coz in the phone and internet age I was sure that his family/friends were watching and reporting to abdalah what was being said.  I should've realized that the show was not live.

 

this being said, americans are still very naive even after 9/11 and they cannot see beyond their own ideals and beliefs.  the entire western world does not understand the mind set of the muslim arabs.  women are second class citizens and married women are the property of the husbands to abuse as they see fit, and they usually do.  unfortunately, when a woman is a non muslim she is also abused by the rest of the man's family.  she is treated like a slave and a hostage and considered a peice of s...!

 

Ramalah is a war zone not a "fun" place to be.  the people there hate americans as much as they hate israeli's and as seen many times on the news do not hestiate and even enjoy executing innocent Americans and other westerners as an "example to the world".  the fact that she is an innocent naive girl with romantic notions would do nothing to save her from being a target.

 

i am concerned that this man belongs to a terrorist cell and is using her to get a visa to the USA to commit terror on their behalf.

 
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November 15, 2007, 2:41 pm PST

next show

yes there will be another show but it didn't say when!
 
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November 15, 2007, 2:43 pm PST

Danger Daughter

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A Danger Daughter In Part Phil Two. Just like one part in Doctor House Phil. See you on Thursday Novem-

ber 15th, 2007. Sincerley Your. Russell Vlaanderen.-------------------------------------------------------------------------- 

Dr. Phil,

That girl needs to come home.  I've been there!  He will tell her anything.  He will marry that American Girl. She will get pregnant. His parents will always have control and will control her as well. GET HER HOME!!

Then get her counseling.

He doesn't  even sound smart enough to fill out  the mounds of paperwork it takes to become and American Citizen through  the INS.  I bet he wouldn't call his own mother a bitch.

I know  if you had interviewed  his parents you would get a whole different story.

It's a free ticket for them to come to America.  Apply for Social Security and they get it!!!

I know it happened to me.

He loved me.  He promised me the World.  We married. I went to the INS he swore he married me because he loved me.   He became and American Citizen, it took five years for the papers to go through.   He divorced me in a week. He got a call from his father.  One week later I was divorced!  THEY HAD A LOT OF MONEY!

Now his parents are here in the states.  He owns a business and has  remarried.

 

GET THAT GIRL OUT AND GET HER SOME COUNCELING!  God bless her Mother.

 

Thanks for listening.

 
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November 15, 2007, 2:45 pm PST

The beginnings of abuse

Katherine.....let's put aside the issues of myspace, age, maturity, nationality, disagreement.....

 

When Dr. Phil asked him about calling you abusive names.....His response was "That's normal......"  AT THAT INSTANT.......Your face, your eyes, your demeanor SCREAMED....."What did you just say????"   That, my dear, is a red flag.  It is probably not the first red flag that has come up for you.   At a primal level....your gut, your instinct reacted in an honest way, free of all the opinions, confusion and disagreement occurring.

 

Why is this such a big issue??  Because as a formerly abused person, I can tell you that "Red Flags" pop up quite a bit for us in the beginning of a bad relationship......but we justify them away.  In the beginning, the abusers DON'T scream at us for hours or beat us.  WHEN they do something abusive, they say they are sorry, they'll never do it again, they LOVE you, If you hadn't done X,Y,Z-they wouldn't have said/done the abusive act!   "THEY ISOLATE YOU FROM YOUR FAMILY AND FRIENDS!!!!!  Fast forward days, weeks, months or years later and we are caught in the trap of an abusive relationship that hurts us and our children.  And we may or may not be able to escape from it.  BUT 99.9% of the time, all abused women will tell you.....there WERE red flags!

 

LISTEN TO YOUR HEART AND SOUL!!!!  PAY ATTENTION TO THOSE RED FLAGS THAT ARE POPPING UP!!!    Your instincts are 99.9999999% percent correct......listen to them!! It will save you years of pain and heartache with an abusive man!!!!

 

From experience,

Mgrlady

 
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November 15, 2007, 2:46 pm PST

Most of the Muslim Religion is To Hate

Quote From: bmshah

 I feel that these episodes are only perpetuating a steroetype.  Katherine may be in danger but her story is only one story.  Giving so much attention to this topic is sending a negative message to the American public, fear the Middle East and its people.  Yes there are issues with the Middle East but only showing these stories are only making things worse.  Situations like this are RARE.  Their are millions of Middle Easterners living in the US, US citizens living in the Middle East, and  interatial marragies between these people that are happy, healthy and successful.  Publicizing only the negative stories is creating more misundertanding and separation between Americans and Middle Easterners. Unless you are personally involved in a healthy realationship with a Middle Eastern, the only thing you will know about them are the negative, eagerated things you see on tv.  Again, these stories are encouraging stereotypes and hurting any hopes for a peaceful reationship between the US and the Middle East.  I am glad that Dr. Phil is trying to help this family but I think that showing only one side of this topic is adding to the misconceptions and prejudice that Americans have about Middle Easterners. 

i do not fear them but I do not trust any of them. Even the ones that claim to be peaceful I do not trust. They are raised believing that women are inferior to men. It is not against the law there to beat your wife. They beleive American women to be whores, sluts, and bitches. If I were to go into any yahoo chat room I would be constantly getting messages from middle eastern men want me to do dirty things on the web cam. To them that is all American women do. Muslims want to dominate the world starting with Europe. Many of the muslims that here in America hate it here and everyone that is not like them. They are the ones that can preach against Christians, Jews, and the president, but if a Christian said anything about their religion they would claim racism. Muslims are the ones that I am almost totally prejudice against. I believe they want to kill anyone who is not like them. I have yet to meet one Muslim who believes otherwise. If I ever do I might change my opinion about them but until then this is what I believe.

 
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