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Topic : 06/17 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

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Created on : Thursday, November 08, 2007, 07:39:52 pm
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(Original Air Date: 11/15/07) Dr. Phil continues the story of a young woman who made international headlines when she ran away to Palestine to be with a man she met on the Internet when she was just 16. Katherine was stopped by the FBI and brought back home, but two years later and now an adult, she’s left the United States again to be with Abdullah, the man she says she loves and wants to marry. Katherine’s terrified family thinks she is being brainwashed, and may never be allowed to return home. They say they’ve witnessed Abdullah’s violent temper when he’s verbally abused her over the phone. Now, in an exclusive interview via satellite, Dr. Phil speaks with Katherine and Abdullah together. Is Abdullah lying about letting Katherine return home? Is this couple already married? Talk about the show here.

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November 15, 2007, 4:46 pm PST

Are you serious!

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He is a bad guy because he bit (YES I SAID BIT AS IN WITH HIS TEETH) and beat her. The preview for the next show showed Katherine crying and telling Dr. Phil what he did to her.
Can you not already see what this man has already dont to this child?  She needed to find out for herself what she wanted and she did and I cant wait for you to watch the next time she is on the show an you can really see what HE didi to her not everyone else we are not taling about everyone we are talking aobu them!
 
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November 15, 2007, 4:48 pm PST

11/15 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

When is the followup show being aired.  They did not mention it on today's program.  Thanks
 
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November 15, 2007, 4:48 pm PST

11/15 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

   I thought this program was pretty interesting. I can't believe how dumb a girl can gets. Katherine is making herself an example of one. She is learning the consequence for going over there and met a stranger that she thought she knew.  She chose not to listen to her family and be a rebel. I think her behavior was pretty immature. Abdullah's actions were all red flags and I'm sure that she realized that her family's right about this guy.

 

   This has nothing to do about religion or how Muslim people live in the Middle East. I have taken many courses on MIddle East so it depends on what is your definiation of " Middle East" means. Turkey is pretty westernized; however, they were the one who create Ottoman Kingdom.  Not every country is the same, but the place I won't want to visit is Iraq, Saui, and Afghanistan. (Maybe Syria).

 

  

 
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November 15, 2007, 4:49 pm PST

11/15 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

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No, at age 16 they don't always know what's right, wrong, appropriate and inappropriate. Many don't have parents who give a flip about them! But if they DO know it, that doesn't mean they use common sense (and restraint) and make good choices. Yes, people should be "responsible for their own actions," but it's up to us parents to make the best choices for our children! TEENS are NOT responsible adults!

 

You are apparently CLUELESS on the emotional development of teenagers. Take that from a high school teacher who has had the priviledge of working w/ them 5 days a week! Teens are naive, immature, too trusting, think they'll live forever and bad stuff happens just to others, they are self-indulgent, they often don't learn from their mistakes, they think they know EVERYTHING, etc.

 

Don't YOU recall being a teen? Haven't you matured GREATLY since then? We all have!

 

I did not blame MYSPACE. It's a tool for those mature enough to handle it. But do not EVER tell me teens should be on it and talking to strangers, which they WILL do. They're curious. They're human. They think they know what's best for them. They are trusting. They see the best in others. And THAT Is what makes them easy prey to PREDATORS! Those "predators" not only include criminals, but lying boyfriends, lying girlfriends and just plain losers.

 

It's very easy for those types to HIDE behind a computer screen; it's NO SO EASY for them to do that face-to-face in school, at work, in church, etc. And YOU know that.

I'm sorry, but if they had parents who ACTED LIKE PARENTS & taught them, then at 16 they WOULD/SHOULD know what is right, wrong, appropriate & inappropriate! And NO, they dont always use common sense, I'm very well aware of that, but teens WOULD learn from their mistakes more if their PARENTS actually MADE them take RESPONSIBILITY for THEIR actions when they dont use common sense, instead of blaming everyone/thing else.

 

I am NOT clueless, I know very well how teens are, I also know how a lot of parents aren't. I'm 21 years old & have seen & heard a lot of things first hand.

 

And YES, it IS just as easy for "predators" to hide who they really are face-to-face in school, at work, at church, etc. They could be very charming ANYWHERE, NO MATTER WHERE THEY ARE (on the net or in public), and anyone who thinks otherwise is in a bit of denial. 

 

Lets stop treating TEENS like spoiled little babies & actually hold them accountable/responsible for what THEY (rightly or wrongly) CHOOSE to do!

 
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November 15, 2007, 4:49 pm PST

Do people watch Dr. Phil there?

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in the news about this here!

 

Marian Paroo

Tel Aviv, Israel

 
 
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November 15, 2007, 4:51 pm PST

Ethnocentric

 I watched the show with growing surprise!  America is that great, huh?  Why do some people here think everyone wants a visa to stay here? Also: Why doesn't the family attempt to get to know his culture, the country, or religion better?  I am an immigrant to America, and I see in her mother's reaction the same I saw in my mother's.  She doesn't want me to be in America, and granted, I would have -at least financially and crime-wise- a better life in my homeland.  But yet, I choose to stay: for my American husband, for my daughter.  Have you nay-sayers ever thought about that?  America is not all that.  There is to every country a distinct beauty, a flair, and fascination about it... not just evil as soon as it is called 'overseas'.  But then again, if you don't want to break out of your ethnocentric belief system, you will never understand.
Then Dr.Phil's solution:  great if it works out, but if it don't!  Total loss of trust.  Then she is 'lost' forever. She is young, she has the energy and the lack of responsibilities that she can just dump her whole family.  In my case, my parents didn't 'approve' of my actions.  Every time I speak to my mother, she wants me to come back.  As long that is in her mind, I will never be able to tell her what is going on (really), or talk about my concerns, frustrations, problems, and so on.  It will always turn into: Just come back, we love you, we are family. 
And besides all that: What makes some people think she will be safer back home?  How many domestic violence cases are there each year in America?  And -uh- how many Muslims live here?  Last time I checked America is a country with a big Muslim following.  There are more Muslims in America living right now than there are Muslims in Palestine.  Ever thought about that?  Leave the religion out of it!  Or do I have to mention the Catholic Church and the second-class members (I am Catholic)? Or all those fanatic bible fans? How can you deny Darwinism? Only in America... over 48% of adults deny it... Is that normal?  How many spouses lay dead every year?  She can get a crummy boyfriend just as easy here as in Palestine.  How much inequality is here? Sexism?  Racism?  You really believe she has it better here?  Plain and simple: no matter where you are and with whom you are, you will have the potential for problems. The family makes a return almost impossible, and on the end of the day she is going to stick with him more the more her family dislikes him. Grow up, Mom.  She is a big girl now.
 

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November 15, 2007, 5:00 pm PST

follow show

when is the follow up show on katherine returning home on, they said there would be a show but didnt say when. if anyone knows please post. thank you

 

 
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November 15, 2007, 5:02 pm PST

no generalization please

 i just watched the show and even though abdullah is obviously not honest and immature, i would like to say that bringing the second story with iranian husband and his wife who ran away was not smart at all...

dr phil is a very popular show and we do not need more stereotyping on muslim arabs nowadays.

arabs are just like any other races, some men are great, some are lousy. I just wanted to make that clear.

that could have happen with anybody from any country. katherine needs to set her priorities straight if they r really in love both families should meet amd talk about whats next.

 
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November 15, 2007, 5:03 pm PST

"This is not always true!"

I am married to a muslim man his mother and father had a arranged marriage and his mother is from Palestine.  My husband is not a woman beater in fact he is a very good husband and a good father.  He has never hit me or called me out of my name.  In fact i wear the pants in this relationship i control the money and what i say goes.  This criticism about muslim men is ridiculous!  My father-in-law has to be the greatest  person with the biggest heart.  My brother-in-laws are all very nice to.  Believe me my brother fought in Iraq and i to did believe all of this nonsense about middleastern people but it was my stupidity to how muslim people really are a lot of them are very warm hearted and well mannered people.  I encourage people to learn more about these people instead of creating a bigger war then there already is!
 
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November 15, 2007, 5:04 pm PST

11/15 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

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 Do you think peple have nothing better to do with their lives than to plot a suicude bombing of America?  If he needs a green card it''s certainly not to bomb our country, but to get the hell out of the horrible life in his country.  On the other hand... maybe you are right and we have to lose our sleep over every illegal (and legal) Palestinian and Middle Eastern immigrant that is plotting the demise of our Motherland RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!

you need to get over yourself!  not every  muslim wants to come to the USA.most arab countries are  filthy rich that you would have to be a fool to wanna come and live in the states. when that girl was leaving her family I didn't see someone holding a gun to her head.

 
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