Topic : 06/17 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

Quote From: cristo

 I've tried to give Abdullah and his family the benefit of the doubt. I have a number of Palestinian and other Arabic friends, great people. And all except one of my married male friends in this demographic are doting husbands, unlike the stereotype. I thought the whole bit about code-words and brainwashing stuff seemed a little over the top for fear-mongering - as if she was some American hostage in Iran in 1979. Is she brainwashed? No - she's just an immature, impressionable and impulsive girl, who jumped in over her head and was too proud to admit it is a mistake. Is Abdullah some insidious terrorist seeking a green card? No, i think he's just an insecure punk "bad boy" loser, and Katherine could have just as easily latched on to a Mr Wrong just like him lurking in any bar in America.

The really bizarre and fishy thing in all this though, is that Abdullah's dad made the arrangements for her to fly to the Middle East in the first place. For the first thing, it's highly unusual for such a dad to be supportive of his son marrying outside the faith - "why can't you find a nice Muslim girl?", or "Forget her, my business associate has a great daughter i'd like you to meet" etc. But the real clincher, with the strict cultural value of a young woman's propriety, is Abdullah's dad  sending Katharine alone overseas. If he did that with his o own daughter, in his culture that would taint his family honor with shame, and brand her as un-marryable , at best. Why would Abdullah's father invite this "shame" on his family? That makes this really fishy.

Quote From: sheenie

Being a practicing muslim as well as coming from a long line of men who practice islam properly, they know that in islam a woman's divine right is to be treated with respect and kindness.

Every woman no matter what religion needs to be taught that they should ALWAYS be talked to with kindness and respect, this is a basic human right (and God given right). Unfortunatley women don't always know that or arent' raised with those teachings. Some ddin't have an example of a man treating them kindly. Maybe this girl had an abusive father or maybe she doens't know how a man is supposed to treat her. Maybe her mom dates countless men who beat her as well? Unfortunately you only know what you have seen and learned. Some women who come from abusive upbringings think that's how a man is supposed to treat them. They don't know otherwise.

If she is being abused, I hope she realizes she NEVER needs to live lke that and DOES NOT deserve it. No woman does!

Quote From: savednow

1.  I have read the Koran (Quran).  Any translation of the Koran is considered to be corrupted  - it is a fasinating read.  I can post a few of their scriptures, but they are very vile and hateful towards Jews and Christians.

 

2.  You have had your children baptised (Catholics), but are raising them as Muslims.  Dod you let your Preist in on that little tidbit before they were allowed to participate in the sacrement?

 

3.  You are incorrect - Muslims are commanded to convert all to Islam and if someone refuses, they have permission (and are doing Allah a service) by killing them. This is where the 70 virgins in Heaven is promised.   Also, Muslims are allowed to "lie" to everyone EXCEPT other Muslims.

Quote From: sheenie

Being a practicing muslim as well as coming from a long line of men who practice islam properly, they know that in islam a woman's divine right is to be treated with respect and kindness.

Every woman no matter what religion needs to be taught that they should ALWAYS be talked to with kindness and respect, this is a basic human right (and God given right). Unfortunatley women don't always know that or arent' raised with those teachings. Some ddin't have an example of a man treating them kindly. Maybe this girl had an abusive father or maybe she doens't know how a man is supposed to treat her. Maybe her mom dates countless men who beat her as well? Unfortunately you only know what you have seen and learned. Some women who come from abusive upbringings think that's how a man is supposed to treat them. They don't know otherwise.

If she is being abused, I hope she realizes she NEVER needs to live lke that and DOES NOT deserve it. No woman does!

Quote From: anita9456

 I have been to Israel 9 times since April 2000. I have been to Jericho - before the infitada. Jericho is located just slightly to the north and west of Jerusalem not far from the Jordan River. The Gaza Strip is Located down on the Egyptian Border. Been their as well. The West Bank & Gaza strip Belong to Israel. THERE IS NO COUNTRY OF PALASTINE! 
   In 1967  Israel fought a war with Egypt, Jordan and Syria. The active Arab states received aid from Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Sudan and Algeria. The war left Israel with the largest territorial gains from any of the wars the country had been involved in: Sinai and Gaza Strip were captured from Egypt, East Jerusalem and the West Bank from Jordan and the Golan Heights from Syria.
 
Israel also fought from October 6 to October 26, 1973 against a coalition of Arab states led by Egypt and Syria. The war began with a surprise joint attack by Egypt and Syria on the Jewish holiday of Yom Kippur. Egypt and Syria crossed the cease-fire lines in the Sinia and Golan Heights, which had been captured by Israel in 1967 during the Six-Day War.
 
So there is no Palestine (the land belonged to the nations listed)- it is Israel ! 

Yes, Katherine is in danger. She is the hands of a people who have no respect for woman and believe that Christians need to convert to Islam or die. I do not know what Katherine believes, but if she believes that Jesus is Lord, Jesus is the  Messiah and the son of God once they get married she will have to make a choice.  The Muslims are not friendly to woman, Christians and Jews. Their leaders (Yasser Arafat for one) wants to push the Jews into the sea and than go after Great Satan - American. First the saturday people than the Sunday people. Jericho was and I do believe still is where the headquarters of the PLO are, unless after Yasser Arafat they moved it to Ramallah (inswhich is straight North of Jerusalem).
 
I hope and pray you get her out of there!! Abdulla just wants to marry her to get into America. Look at Michigan they have a huge population of Muslims. Hmmmmmmmmmmm? Gee I wonder why he wants her?
 
Oh - one of my Israeli friends told me once that it is not Racial profiling when you look at a certian group of people, but it is "RISK PROFILING"! 
  

 

Quote From: anniekc

 

I met my husband on ther internet and he is from Paksitan. But I also didn't rush and meet him with in months. It took me 3 1/2 years before i agreed and went to paksitan to marry him. It is hard because we have two seperate cultures but i love him so much. This girl and everyone should wait and see because it might be just a crush. I took my time and tested him too