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Topic : 06/17 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

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Created on : Thursday, November 08, 2007, 07:39:52 pm
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(Original Air Date: 11/15/07) Dr. Phil continues the story of a young woman who made international headlines when she ran away to Palestine to be with a man she met on the Internet when she was just 16. Katherine was stopped by the FBI and brought back home, but two years later and now an adult, she’s left the United States again to be with Abdullah, the man she says she loves and wants to marry. Katherine’s terrified family thinks she is being brainwashed, and may never be allowed to return home. They say they’ve witnessed Abdullah’s violent temper when he’s verbally abused her over the phone. Now, in an exclusive interview via satellite, Dr. Phil speaks with Katherine and Abdullah together. Is Abdullah lying about letting Katherine return home? Is this couple already married? Talk about the show here.

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November 15, 2007, 8:30 pm PST

Blame the parents

Also I believe that the parents should have actually sat down with their daughter and talked to her and take her situation seriously. Given her a no right away made the situation much worse. They could of compromised and maybe if Katherine still wanted to go met him then someone from her family could have gone to palestine with her.
 
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November 15, 2007, 8:31 pm PST

11/15 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

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Hello - just watch the evening news or read  a news paper.  There are "honor" killings all the time.  These are especially popular when a young women is raped.  Since she allowed herself to be "raped", the family then kills her, so their won't be dishonored.  This happened about 5 years ago in California.  A young Muslim girl (If I remember correctly she was about 13) was raped by a family member.  The father decided to roll her up in  a Persian rug and throw her into the backyard pool.  Just one example - I can remember seeing women beat on TV for not wearing their burka (sp?), or coming out of their home without their male family member's permission.  They are not allowed to go to school in many countries.  Even in France there was a big whoop-de-do because the men insisted the women wear the appropriate scarves in public.

   It is completely false to assume that they aren't allowed to go toschool in many countries. Where did you get your information from?  Did you know that in Turkey, they encourage women and girls to go school and even COLLEGE too. Believe it or not, but it is fact that Iran has the largest population of women who enrolled university. Don't be so absurd.

 
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November 15, 2007, 8:35 pm PST

Cultural issues

I am a student of the Islamic Culture, and what I saw on the tv today scared me a little bit. Young muslim men do not like being questioned about their household. He has lost his "Wasta", his honor as far as other see him. I hope nothing happens to her. What happens in other parts of the Middle East when men lose their honor is scary. I will pray for her and her family.
 
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November 15, 2007, 8:36 pm PST

11/15 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

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Hello - just watch the evening news or read  a news paper.  There are "honor" killings all the time.  These are especially popular when a young women is raped.  Since she allowed herself to be "raped", the family then kills her, so their won't be dishonored.  This happened about 5 years ago in California.  A young Muslim girl (If I remember correctly she was about 13) was raped by a family member.  The father decided to roll her up in  a Persian rug and throw her into the backyard pool.  Just one example - I can remember seeing women beat on TV for not wearing their burka (sp?), or coming out of their home without their male family member's permission.  They are not allowed to go to school in many countries.  Even in France there was a big whoop-de-do because the men insisted the women wear the appropriate scarves in public.
Oh, for God's sake come on now. For someone claiming to be saved you seem to be fomenting hatred.

I don't know what bizarre news channel you're tuned into that there are reports of honor killings "all the time". And your statement that they're "especially popular" in rape cases totally blows any credibility. All i can say is that you must live in a Taliban-controlled region of Pakistan - because the Taliban is the only regime that could lend credence to these assertions.
 
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November 15, 2007, 8:38 pm PST

11/15 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

I watched both shows and she looked so frightened on part one.  She looked scared but she seemed like she didn't know how to call out for help.  I hope things work out for Katherine.  I hope she gets back to the USA and isn't stupid enough to go back. 
 
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November 15, 2007, 8:38 pm PST

11/15 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

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And, am I crazy, or did Abudullah say that it is "normal" to call your girlfriend names?  Did I hear him say that?

 

My husband has never called me a name, not one time.  I suppose that he likes his teeth where they are.  :)

 Yes my dear u heard him well n i heard him also, Abudullah, sound so crazy as he is ,a real crazy dude without moral ,exhibitng the wicked islamic he is.... looking for a gal to bring him to america, bcos he also told kathrine that if she lives he ll look for another american n when he comes here ,, he ll whip her butt. so why must it be an American gal?

 
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November 15, 2007, 8:41 pm PST

Young & Dumb

I was very glad to see at the end of the show that she does come home. I feel bad for her. While it is true that there are things about how people are treated being diffrent culture to culture, her young naivety does make her more prone for abuse and brain-washing to happen. With age does come experience. When I was younger and not that many years ago I found myself in a bad situation. Like Katherine, I allowed the jerk to control me. I sincerely hope that she can learn from this and that everyone around her will give the love and support she needs. I wish I could help her, I would tell her that it does get better and that real healthy love is very amazing and worth waiting for. Thanks Dr. Phil, for being there to help show her that good guys do exist and trying to help in any way you can. Sometimes we young girls forget there is good guys out there.
 
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November 15, 2007, 8:45 pm PST

THE REAL TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!

 

 If you think for one second that this man is Innocent you have your hands full!!!!  If you can't tell that he is one of many abusive people out there by the way he talks and he speaks to her and to the family you have something about to smack you in your face!!  I will bet he beats her and does things that she wont even speak of to her family and friends. The  man wont even look into the camera. He uses the excuse how do you say it... This topic has me so mad that l would personally go there myself and bring her back!!!!!!! He should be charge with attempt Kidd napping due to her being only 16 yrs because there is no statue of limitations. You can tell that he has brain washed her and told her that if she leaves he would do things that the normal average person wouldn't even think of. I could go on and on, but Dr.Phil you have the right idea get her in the USA and her family yourself and GOD will take over!!!!!!!!

 
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November 15, 2007, 8:59 pm PST

Thank you for your comments

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I agree with what you have said about Katherine not having any idea about what could happen to her where she is. But, to say that she's the dumbest you've ever seen, I feel that's wrong. She's young and nieve. That's what it boils down to. This man has taken advantage of that and now she's in a terrible situation.

I don't think that bashing her and calling her names is going to help the situation in any way shape of form.

We have all made mistakes some worse then others. She thinks that she's in love and Abdullah has manipulated her in every way that he can in order to make her see what he wants her to see and believe what he wants her to believe.

And as far as keeping her hostage, I believe that in a big way, he has done that.

 

I am with you in pleading with Doctor Phil to do whatever he can to get her out of there before it is too late for her. These next 3 days are going to be scary for her family that's for sure. A lot can happen in 3 days.

And it's obvious why Abdullah hasn't made the arrangements to come to the US. He knows that once the leaves the soil of Palestine he has basically lost control of the situation and he doesn't want that to happen.

This is going to be tough. I have to just say that I will pray for Katherine and her family because I don't think that the nightmare is going to end just by her returning to American Soil but it's a start and a huge one.

Thanks for hearing me out...............

 

Acoult

I think it is important that we show Katherine that we are united in our hopes of her return.  We are on the same internet that they met on. It is possible that they are reading these comments.  Let us not embarrass this girl into thinking  she has no reason to return except to suffer more degregation and, let us not allow Abdulla to capitalize on our comments by convincing her that she would suffer more at our thoughts and comments than where she is.

 

COME HOME KATHERINE!  We have all made mistakes, you can make them to, and perhaps turn a bad experience into a positive endeavor in the future, perhaps helping youths as a future career.  If you are afraid your family will never stop mentioning this, you can simply tell them, after they have vented for a time that you do not want to hear about it the rest of your life; a mistake doesn't have to last forever.

 
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November 15, 2007, 9:00 pm PST

Him Using Her??

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 I think this girl maybe brainwashed why would she stay with a dude that is abusive? I think he is just using her to get a greencard. I am betting dollars to doughnuts she had already elopted with this dude.  Her mom needs to get her daughter out of this quick before something real bad happens to her.

Excuse me- how can he possibly be using Katherine? What purpose is there for him doing that to her?

He has not been trying in any way to get a visa to go to America, so how would he ever get his "green card"? I really think he is just using her for his own pleasure, and not for the sake of marrying her or loving her. I do hope Dr. Phil gets her to come back home, if Abdullah really loves her, then he will smarten up and get his visa. Remember what his name was for "My Space"? He called himself "Psycho". so has anybody explored that idea,  that maybe he is a psycho, and may harm Katherine rather than let her go home? Lets' hope we get some updates on this show, and let us know what happens and what the future holds for Katherine. We all know that girls are very hard to raise, they would rather just do their own thing, without any consequences to pay. I can understand what this mother is going through, the same as I have with my daughter, very stubborn, wanted her way all the time and did not give a darn what her family said. Now, she is using drugs, divorced, remarried, gave up custody of her 3 kids, and the family has nothing to do with her anymore after all the trouble we have been through with her and her using drugs. Thank You

 
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