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Topic : 06/17 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

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(Original Air Date: 11/15/07) Dr. Phil continues the story of a young woman who made international headlines when she ran away to Palestine to be with a man she met on the Internet when she was just 16. Katherine was stopped by the FBI and brought back home, but two years later and now an adult, she’s left the United States again to be with Abdullah, the man she says she loves and wants to marry. Katherine’s terrified family thinks she is being brainwashed, and may never be allowed to return home. They say they’ve witnessed Abdullah’s violent temper when he’s verbally abused her over the phone. Now, in an exclusive interview via satellite, Dr. Phil speaks with Katherine and Abdullah together. Is Abdullah lying about letting Katherine return home? Is this couple already married? Talk about the show here.

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November 16, 2007, 8:23 am PST

Follow up show

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 I would love to know also.  I also seen the clip but cannot find anything about it. I'm hoping it will be an episode on next week!

I hope they don't make us wait too long to see what happened after she got home. 

It looked like, from the clip, that she was upset and afraid of him as she was telling how horrible he was to her.  I'm sure she was afraid to say anything negative while she was over there with him.  I would've been!

It's a shame she's having to learn (the hardest way, from what she's been through)  that you don't really know someone till you actually spend time in person with them.  It's the only flaw of meeting people on line.  It's so easy to "fall" for someone you only know through writing.  I'm sure folks who've done online dating sites can attest to this.   You can hit it off great "in writing" or when you just chat, etc. but the chemistry can be all wrong when you finally meet in person.

I met my husband on a dating site.  But I can say, from experience, we were lucky that we were so compatible in person once we met and started actually dating. 

Poor girl....I have a daughter and I can totally sympathize with the mother of this girl.  You can't tell a 18 year old what to do if they're determined and in love.   It's the hardest thing about being a parent is watching them make mistakes. 

 

 
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November 16, 2007, 8:25 am PST

Not shown YET

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I never saw the show where Katherine comes home?  Did she get home?

Kelly

Kelly,

 

At the end of the show Dr. Phil and Katherine made an agreement that if he would send her a round-trip ticket to get home (and then be able to go back when she wants) then she agreed to come home today (Friday).  I guess they have not yet scheduled the show to air yet when she actually does  come home because there was no mention of when it would air.  I'm sure if you keep watching each day something will be said as to wjem the follow-up show will be broadcast. 

 

Marlene 

 
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November 16, 2007, 8:27 am PST

11/15 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

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Let me tell you I too was had a relationship with a man in pakistan and no amount of time will let you know these men play games with you emotions a lie just to get a visa. I went as far as going to pakistan to marry this man and I thought i knew him and all was well I tested and tested repeatedly for over 4 years till I finally went and got married. Upon my return to the states I learn  that this man had been lying to me and was already married to a pakistani woman and went I confronted him he told me yes all he wanted was a visa so he can get out of there and come to the USA so he can be able to provide for his 1st wife and other family members, he also told me that all middle eastern men do this just to get out and will play this game as long as they can if they feel that they have a chance. So i know first hand that this is all a like mostly with the pakistan men

I just have a quick point, Pakistan is not in the Middle East. Pakistan is Asian, they have an entire different ethnic backround then those in the Middle East, traditions, and language.

 
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November 16, 2007, 8:39 am PST

Katherine

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I would just like to say that I think Katherine is a very courageous woman.  She is smart and brave.  I, as a mother of two children understand the concerns of her family.  I as veteran of the US Navy, know the concerns of her being in the middle east at this time, I, as a survivor of abuse understand how hard it is to leave, and feeling scared to death to leave, and I as a woman, understand how it is for a woman to be driven by her heart and her heart alone.  I think Katherine wll go on in life and be successful and find the love she deserves!  I wish her the very best in life!
 
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November 16, 2007, 8:39 am PST

Please Do NOT Give Up on Catherine!

I feel that the family is justified in their concern of losing their daughter Catherine, spiritually, emotionally, and maybe even physically.  I could see the change in her the minute Abdullah joined her on camera.  I also believe that she is starting to see that what she did might not have been the best thing, but is trying to make it work out, to live the fairy tale that he showed her for 2-1/2 years over MySpace.

 

If in fact Catherine does return to the US,  I hope the family can constructively get her to learn about what she experienced there.  I hope they can get her to open up to them instead of being defensive to their accusations, anger and fears.  Catherine definitely needs to learn more about the customs of different countries.  I hope that she will recognize the opportunity for her to stay here, and if Abdullah really loves her, then he will get up off the couch, get the visa paperwork done, come to the United States, and start acting like the man that Catherine fell for and deserves.

 

Otherwise, he is just as big a loser as a few young guys are around here, and I am sure she could list a few of her own from her high school days as well.

 

Catherine was wrong for going there the first time, and going the second was because she did not get to see him the first time.  Ballsy girl, that one!  I would like to know 2 things though. (1) Why did Catherine not learn more about the country she was visiting, their customs, etc? and (2) Why hasn't Abdullah not tried to leave his own country to visit Catherine in the US?

 

 
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November 16, 2007, 8:45 am PST

Promoting Racism

 

I'd like to know how far this show would have made it if the topic had been "Why young white girls shouldn't marry outside their race or religion."

 
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November 16, 2007, 9:02 am PST

Punishment is DEATH for premarital sex

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premarital sex is NOT punishable by death in Islam. You are confusing adultery with premarital sex. Also, these punishments are rarely carried out. Get your "facts" straight.

Women have no rights,  Women are considered second class people.  Women are viewed upon as the property of the husband. Just like a object in his home. Punishment for adultery is also by death, It is carried out very frequently. You need to get your facts " straight".   You are  the one that's seriously mistaken due to :  

 

 1.Punishment is death (stoned to death) for premarital sex.  This happens frequently.

 

This is not done openly but it is carried out in private and legally. It's actually done more often than people realize.  He also has the right to :  murder, beat, torture, rape and verbally abuse her at any time he wants due to she is considered his property. 

 

It's the same concept as woment being murdered due to something a family member thinks they did to

 " Dishonor the family name".

 

Shawn: Katherine made a statement on the show : "We didn't study that in school." 

 

I personally  feel you are partially to blame for not empowering her & building up her self esteem upon arriving back in the USA when she was 16. 

 

You have allowed her making a poor / uneducated decisions without having all of the facts regarding religious issues resulting in putting her life in danger and sealing her faith to a painful and torturous death. 

 

1. You failed to provided her with an adequate education / or awareness  regarding diversity and religious issues focusing on  inequality to women's rights,  seeking groups such as  Amnesty International  or finding someone (other than you or family members who she thought was an unbiased party ) to speak with regarding the legal treatment / abuse of women in different religions,

 

2. You failed to find and allow her to speak with someone who has personally experienced a friend or family member stoned to death by her husband or some member of the family. and provided other responsibility resources for her to access " professional counseling"  (it's not that difficult to locate these individuals or groups).

 

I don't feel she would have acted on her decision to leave the USA if you would have provided her with the guidance and resources that are available upon returning to the USA when she was 16 or sometime between 16 - 18 years of age.

 

God Bless you both!

 

 

 

 

 

 
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November 16, 2007, 9:13 am PST

You Missed The Point

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as an american born muslium, we are not trying to create world domination its very hard to get papers here if you are from another country.  we just want the freedom to practice in peace without prejudice

All I was trying to tell her was that if she hates it here then she can go back to her home country. Maybe you are not planning world domination but there are a lot of Muslims that are. They have said so.

 

Muslims are commanded to convert all to Islam and if someone refuses, they have permission (and are doing Allah a service) by killing them. This is where the 70 virgins in Heaven is promised.   Also, Muslims are allowed to "lie" to everyone EXCEPT other Muslims.

 

 
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November 16, 2007, 9:36 am PST

Question

I was watching Dr Phil last night and wondering if anyone knows when the final show for A Daughter In Danger will appear.. I am anxious to find out what happened to this girl.
 
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November 16, 2007, 9:46 am PST

11/15 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

 

I would like to know why Kathryn's mother doesn't take a flight to Palestine and bring her home herself. It is so obvious that Abdullah is brainwashing and manipulating Kathryn into marrying him.

 
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