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Topic : 06/17 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

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Created on : Thursday, November 08, 2007, 07:39:52 pm
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(Original Air Date: 11/15/07) Dr. Phil continues the story of a young woman who made international headlines when she ran away to Palestine to be with a man she met on the Internet when she was just 16. Katherine was stopped by the FBI and brought back home, but two years later and now an adult, she’s left the United States again to be with Abdullah, the man she says she loves and wants to marry. Katherine’s terrified family thinks she is being brainwashed, and may never be allowed to return home. They say they’ve witnessed Abdullah’s violent temper when he’s verbally abused her over the phone. Now, in an exclusive interview via satellite, Dr. Phil speaks with Katherine and Abdullah together. Is Abdullah lying about letting Katherine return home? Is this couple already married? Talk about the show here.

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November 16, 2007, 10:57 am PST

11/15 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

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I appreciate your insight -- you very well may be right. But, did you not find Abdullah's demeanor very rude and condescending? I don't care if he's Juan from Mexico or Bubba from Missouri...this guy acted in a way that was very suspicious to me. If ANY man acted that way, I'd be concerned about other intentions he may have. His eyes were shifty, he was clearly lying about several things, many things he said were downright rude. Do you think it is a cultural difference? His English did seem somewhat limited.

Honestly, yes, the Middle East factor is large because we are engaged in a war in that part of the world, and there has been ongoing fighting in that part of the world for decades.
In my opinion (because obviously I don't know any of the people on the show personally) I do think that Abdullah is not the best guy to be dating Katherine. In fact, I really think both are so immature at this point perhaps neither shouldn't be dating. Abdullah is obviously lying, that's pretty clear. I don't think that he is an "evil" person though, I just think he's lying to impress Katherine and I think maybe he's insecure. I do think that their relationship could work out in the future if they both became stronger, more educated individuals if they really do "love" each other. Western people who marry Middle Eastern people often have good relationships, just as in any culture there are going to be divorces and bad experiences. But as long as both people have respect for each other and are understanding of the other's culture and/or religion dating those from different circumstance would be fine. I do think that Katherine seems weak minded and I do think Abdullah is rude, perhaps they were both just nervous though. Being on tv could make anyone seem different, I hate to analyze them too much not knowing them.
 
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November 16, 2007, 11:02 am PST

Protecting our teens

After hearing this story has reinforced my decision to never let my daughter have a cell phone. Plus she is not allowed near the pc unless me her father or both is right there watching her. My daughter will be a teen in 2 years and i entend to do everything possible to keep her safe from sickos like this.
 

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November 16, 2007, 11:06 am PST

There's no Such...

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I would like to know why Kathryn's mother doesn't take a flight to Palestine and bring her home herself. It is so obvious that Abdullah is brainwashing and manipulating Kathryn into marrying him.

Great Question!  Good idea, except that she can't take a flight to "Palestine".  There's no such place.  But she could take Jordanian Airlines to Amman, then transportation to Gaza.

 
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November 16, 2007, 11:10 am PST

Part 3

At the end of Part 2 they showed Katherine home. When does that air on tv? I tried finding it and I can't.

 

 

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November 16, 2007, 11:19 am PST

In danger

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The christians that are living in palestine are palestinian christians. just like being palestinian muslim. they were born there and live there. being christian or muslim is not being from a certain country. There are plenty of American women and men in abusive realtionships. Why is it that people think arab men are only abusive? Im pretty sure there are more white men in this counrty that beat their wives for damn reason, but no one stereotypes them. She might be in danger because of the man she chose not because he is arab.

She is in danger because he is muslim, and how he has been acting. I'm sure there are tons of muslim men that don't fall into the beating of the wives, and honor killings, but I believe most of those are American Muslims. I even saw a talk show that is in the middle east, a muslim man helping other muslim men on how to correctly beat your wives. Now tell me she isn't in danger. And did you see the preview for the next show.

 

Yes we have men in this country that beat there wives, they are called wife beaters. They are usually very stupid little men that are scared of the big bad world. And I was raised that if a man thinks he can hit you, be better beware of the woman that knows how to pick up a baseball bat and use it. Here in america we are raised that this isn't right or normal, and to fight BACK.

 

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November 16, 2007, 11:24 am PST

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How many of you parents, after watching this show, either did or wants to go into there computers and turn off the internet so the kids don't have access to it. It scared me watching this. I know I will have that watch net on my computer so my son, or future daughter, will never be pulled into this. And you best believe I will talk to the parents of my kids friends and tell them they should do the same.
 
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November 16, 2007, 11:26 am PST

Offer for Katherine

My name is Keri. I'm married to a man from Egypt. I can relate to a lot of what I've seen on the last 2 Dr. Phil episodes.  I met my husband online and after 4 years went to meet him and got married.  However in my case he spoke to my family over the phone and internet for one year before I left for Egypt. 
We're living apart because immigration takes some time post 9/11. I wanted to encourage Katherine because I know what its like to have so many people think you're crazy and not understand love from a distance and breaching different cultures.  But from the short clips I saw of Abdullah- I'm worried because I've experienced many types of Muslims.  I would just like to offer to be researched by dr. phil to prove my own story and offer to talk to Katherine if she would like to talk to someone with a similar story who has been in and learning about Islamic culture for 6 years and have lived in the middle east.
 
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November 16, 2007, 11:33 am PST

11/15 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

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I'd like to know why after the first time she left  she was still allowed contact with this guy? Yes, the parents ALLOWED her to continue to have contact, they took no steps other than her word she wouldn't do it and they bought her a cell phone for easy access.

 

I would have immediately changed my phone number, gotten rid of the internet and NOT given her a cell phone. They say they would answer the phone when he called and he was rude or would just grunt, HANG UP. Why hand the phone over to her in the first place?  Put a calling block on  any number outside the U.S. for incoming calls and outgoing calls. I don't have long distance on my home phone since I pay for it on the cell phone. Sure, she could have found others ways to contact him but it would have been harder and he wouldn't have been able to call her 50 times a day. It's the parents responsibility to keep their children safe from themselves and if taking extreme steps to do so means a little inconvenience to the adults, so be it. This is a girl, who at 16 was going to fly half way across the world because she was in love and they trusted that she would stop all contact with him?

 

I do hope this time around there are house rules put in place, she is made to follow these rules and this guy is blocked completely from having any contact with her. Otherwise she will be right back over there, married and living a life of hell.

 

JMO

 
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November 16, 2007, 11:37 am PST

ahhhh!

Albulla or what ever his name is was so rude and arrogant! You could tell that he was in control of the situation and Katherine did not have her own voice. She constantly kept looking at him before she would answer a question. He really did not look right. Not only physically but mentally. This should teach her lesson and a lot of other naive girls. Their culture is completely different than us AMERICANS. Over in those countries it is taught that women are beneath men. The majority of those men look at a woman as his property that is put on this earth to have his children and serve him. It just shows how uncivilized people can be! The aunt was completely right when she told him that in America it is not o.k. to refer to a woman as a bitch...and his response was...ya...it is o.k.!!!! What a Jerk!!!
 
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November 16, 2007, 11:50 am PST

Danger

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After hearing this story has reinforced my decision to never let my daughter have a cell phone. Plus she is not allowed near the pc unless me her father or both is right there watching her. My daughter will be a teen in 2 years and i entend to do everything possible to keep her safe from sickos like this.
I (like many on this post) have been in the Middle East.  I was there as a teenage girl and often look back on the experience with gratitude that I came back alive.  I was protected by my parents (my dad was working there).  I saw enough of the culture to know (even at 17) that danger was lurking around every corner and interested I WAS NOT.  The culture, the men, the boys and everything there spelled KEEP AWAY if you want to stay alive and get home.  I do not know how this girl can be so naieve even after her little experience in the country she is in.  She has seen enough.  And certainly by now, she has heard enough.  If he's not willing to see her in the States, wow, what is wrong with her?  And, she saw the movie (Not Without my Daughter)?  Did she think it was fiction?  I hope that if she does return on the Friday she promised that someone is able to get through to her.  She obviously needs someone outside her family (what teen listens to their family at that age anyway) to paint a very, very clear picture for her.  She apparently needs to see scars.  I am going to give it less than 50/50 that she comes back.  Men over there . . . well, I don't want to say too many things about them.  You almost have to be there to see.  But, it doesn't take more than a day or two and you know to not mess around.
 
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