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Topic : 07/28 A Husband's Shocking Confessions

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Created on : Friday, November 16, 2007, 03:39:06 pm
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(Original Air Date: 11/19/07) Should you stay in a marriage with your husband if you find out a secret that disgusts you? Michelle thought she had the perfect marriage until recently, when she found out her husband of four years, Wade, was a sex addict and compulsive liar. He admits to cheating on her while she was pregnant, but says since then he's been faithful. Michelle made Wade take an online polygraph test that he failed. Why is Michelle convinced Wade is having an affair, and what proof does she say she has? Wade says there's a simple explanation and wants to take another lie detector test to prove his innocence. When Dr. Phil reveals the results of the second polygraph, will Michelle's fears be confirmed or put to rest? Concerned for the well-being of their two sets of twins, will Michelle decide to divorce Wade or hold on to the hope that their marriage can be healed? Join the discussion.

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November 19, 2007, 7:24 pm PST

Putting everyone at risk

Is it possible for someone this evil to change?  Yes  It is likely?  No.  The chance that someone like this will change isn't worth the poential risks they bring into your life.  An STD is just one of the many risks that this kind of man brings into your life.   Is the chance that he "might" change worth risking your life?   Nope, never.   If you can't find the courage to do it for yourself, at least do it for your kids.

 

 I've been in a similar situation.  Luckily I realized he was a cheater and used good birth control while I was giving him 2nd and 3rd chances.  I didn't bring a child into that living hell, and I finally learned that I deserved someone who would never cheat, not jus someone who would "try" not to.  I divorced him and spent several years learning how to choose a better partner before I even began dating again  

 
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November 19, 2007, 7:30 pm PST

Serial Killer??

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 Wade cheated on his first wife over a dozen times.  So why did Michelle think she was so special that he wouldn't do it to her also?  Once a cheat, always a cheat, just sneaker! 
But I am proud of Michelle for finally standing her ground.  Go girl!
I agree she was naive to think he wouldn't cheat but now we've gone from sex addict to serial killer???
 
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November 19, 2007, 7:47 pm PST

STAND YOUR GROUND MICHELLE

After 18 yrs basically in your shoes....I left.  I didn't think I could do it....I was getting ready to retire, my house was being bulldozed due to road widing, and my husband was a liar and cheater.  I felt responsible, but I just held my head up high and moved on.  You can too.  I never knew I could be sooooo happy with out all his drama......you will too.
 
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November 19, 2007, 7:48 pm PST

11/19 A Husband's Shocking Confessions

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I say a BIG NO to staying with a man who is a cheater.  I am watching my best friend go through hell.  She found out this summer that her husband of over 34 years has been cheating on her for years and years and years.  He used ALL his vacation time for the year to go and meet women he met online.   He is also a big time porn lover. 

For years I have ignored his remarks about a 3some.... now I actualy hate this man.  And the pain his wife and grown kids are going through breaks my heart.  He even had the nerve to tell my best friend that he never really loved her..... I see a women who had worked all her life for her husband and how broken he has made her.  I am always here for her and I tell her that all the time.  I listen and give her a shoulder to cry on and tell her she was the best wife ever, and she was.  He just lost the best thing in his life.  They are now getting a divorce and selling their home that they both worked soooo hard to have.  My B.F. has worked this one job for years and years and it is slowly taking everything out of her.  She hs worked and worked tons of overtime just to keep their head about water while he just continues to add more and more debt with his endless spending, all for himself.  He has opened more credit cards in his name and run them up too....now she is looking at going bankrupt...

 

To tell you the truth there isn't one man in the world worth giving up your heart too.  I have been married for almost 40 years to a very cold, unaffectionate man....who I have BEGGED for us 'both' to get help.  No he can't be bothered.  He only cares about the kids, and grandkids and spends his retirement in either front of a t.v. or a computer screen.  We retired to travel...and here we sit...day after day.  How sad! 

I would run the other way, if I knew then what I know now.  Life is hard enough....without these selfish men.

 

 

 

 I totally agree with everything you are saying girlfriend.  Men are selfish self-centered childish jerks.  Plain and simple truth.  Its always all about them.  Im better off with out them.  Would rather be alone then to be with someone.
 
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November 19, 2007, 7:54 pm PST

11/19 A Husband's Shocking Confessions

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I am interested to hear from any husbands or wives out there who have given their spouse a second chance.  I want to know what the determining factor in believing there is hope and things can get better.  Is it blind faith?  Is it not feeling that there is another option?  Is it understanding the problem better?  It interests me because my wife gave me a second chance.  I don't know why.  I am thankful and will not screw it up, but I would like to know other peoples mentality in a similar situation.  I know that I had to forgive my wife for pain she caused me in the past before we gave our relationship another go.  I know that I pretended to forgive before I actually FORGAVE and moved on.  I know that looking in retrospect is the only way anything makes any sense through the whoel thing.  I know that there is absolutely no way I could have ever had this sort of insight while everything was happening.  I had to realize.  I want to know what makes other people realize.  For me it was just a realization that I had to take my happiness into my own hands.  I had to think to myself that the wors that could happen could never be any worse than what had already happened.  What does everybody think.  I am very young and there are many things in life I have yet to experience.  I feel I learn best from others who are open to sharing.  I have been married for a little over a year and have two wonderful children both of whom were conceived with my wife.  I am looking for some inspiration that there are great things that happen out of crappy circumstances.  Thank you ahead of time for any shared knowledge.  Sorry for the bad typing I am going on about 124 oz of coffee right now :-)

 

Respectfully,

 

Honest Man

Man what an oxy moron There is no such thing as an honest man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
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November 19, 2007, 7:57 pm PST

I read the original post too

Quote From: mommy2nicholas

My point was, the original poster stated that she was a recovering sex addict. The poster I was responding to said that Wade didn't deserve another chance and neither did she as a recovering sex addict. I stand by my post--to judge this woman WAS  judgemental. I was IN NO WAY defending Wade as he is a loser. But the poster was judgemental. Follow the posts backward and I think most would agree.

and I'm sorry but the original poster also said

 

"my advice for Michelle is to find a support group like COSA or SLAA and work on herself, whether she stays with her husband or not!!  GOOD LUCK!!  my prayers are with this couple and their family!!"

 

This would imply that Michelle needs to work on herself as though it is Michelle who has a problem.  This is NOT SO!  The only problem Michelle had was allowing herself to be sucked in by a manic who has also made the claim of being a "sex addict".   I think it's cruel to imply that Michelle needs help except with perhaps the task of getting rid of her *abuser*.  As far as this woman and her being a "recovering sex addict" I still stand by what I originally said too if it walks like a duck & it talks like a duck then it shouldn't be upset when someone says "hey you're a duck"!   This duck acknowledged her husband who is great for standing by her though her ordeal but never a mention of what *she put him through* which I'm sure must have been devistating!  And THAT is what the poster who was "judgemental" was responding to "you & yours have no idea what you put your partner through!"  sounds to me like a partner that is speaking from experience!   And she would be correct in her assesment because if this woman had any clue of what she'd put her spouse through she wouldn't be suggesting that Michelle "work on herself" because she'd realize there's nothing WRONG with Michelle!  There wasn't anything wrong with her spouse either!  If I am a smoker that is something that *I* have to own & I have to deal with & I wouldn't suggesst that my husband go to a support group to "work on himself" because of my actions!  The same holds true for ANY recovering addict!  They're the addict not their spouse! 

 

Judgemental?  well if she doesn't want judgemental she shouldn't be telling a spouse who's husband is a lying, cheating abuser to "go work on herself" & that you can't always blame the man! 

 

 
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November 19, 2007, 8:12 pm PST

IT CAN CHANGE!!!!!!!!

Quote From: ladyteal28

I say a BIG NO to staying with a man who is a cheater.  I am watching my best friend go through hell.  She found out this summer that her husband of over 34 years has been cheating on her for years and years and years.  He used ALL his vacation time for the year to go and meet women he met online.   He is also a big time porn lover. 

For years I have ignored his remarks about a 3some.... now I actualy hate this man.  And the pain his wife and grown kids are going through breaks my heart.  He even had the nerve to tell my best friend that he never really loved her..... I see a women who had worked all her life for her husband and how broken he has made her.  I am always here for her and I tell her that all the time.  I listen and give her a shoulder to cry on and tell her she was the best wife ever, and she was.  He just lost the best thing in his life.  They are now getting a divorce and selling their home that they both worked soooo hard to have.  My B.F. has worked this one job for years and years and it is slowly taking everything out of her.  She hs worked and worked tons of overtime just to keep their head about water while he just continues to add more and more debt with his endless spending, all for himself.  He has opened more credit cards in his name and run them up too....now she is looking at going bankrupt...

 

To tell you the truth there isn't one man in the world worth giving up your heart too.  I have been married for almost 40 years to a very cold, unaffectionate man....who I have BEGGED for us 'both' to get help.  No he can't be bothered.  He only cares about the kids, and grandkids and spends his retirement in either front of a t.v. or a computer screen.  We retired to travel...and here we sit...day after day.  How sad! 

I would run the other way, if I knew then what I know now.  Life is hard enough....without these selfish men.

 

 

 

I'll tell you this! I use to think the same thing. I was raised to think men are worthless and told that everyday and it is something I struggle with constantly to break that thought process, but it can change. It was only be the grace of God that everyone in my famiy has been divorced two times each, at least and I have been married over ten years. With Christ, all things are possible. There is a God who knows your pain and sorrow and heartache and wants to bless you and can change your husband. My husband was the coldest, meanest and most vicious person I have ever met, he use to cuss me out and call me names, was physically abusive and it has been way over a year and although we have our disagreements, he would never curse at me, he is loving, affectionate, takes care of our children, does basically anything I ask him to and even when I don't ask he'll run to the store and grab me a Starbucks, cook dinner, watch our children, and goes to church faithfully while bringing his bible and studying it, attending church marriage seminars, etc. I owe it all to the Lord, who is good and faithful to keep his promises. I didn't understand all the suffering then, I am thankful for it now. I can now help others and tell them my story. I don't care how long you have been married, God can change any circumstance.
 
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November 19, 2007, 8:33 pm PST

RUN LIKE FOREST GUMP!

I been married to a compulsive liar for almost 11 years. I hate to say that I ignored the signs and wish I would have gotten out a long time ago when it first started. This lady needs to get out NOW! This guy cannot see wrong from right and I really doubt things are going to get better. Why endanger your body and the lives of the children? She and the children deserve so much better!

 
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November 19, 2007, 8:46 pm PST

11/19 A Husband's Shocking Confessions

My husband of 17 years cheated on me with a married coworker 6 years ago.  I was totally shocked but since I loved my husband and one of the most important things in life to me was my family I tried to forgive and move on.  The woman and her husband separated before I even knew there was an affair.  Apparently he confronted my husband at work.  A year and a half later her husband committed suicide.  Sad as they had two young children. 

I had just begun to trust my husband again and feel a little more secure in our marriage when I discovered he was once again cheating with a married coworker, however she was a couple of years older than our oldest daughter and pregnant with her second child.  (They both swear the baby is her husband's and think I should believe them)

Unfortunately I was not working at the time and had no income at all so felt I had no choice but to stay.  My goal was to become financially independant in order to get out of this mess.  He continues to lie and tell me that he is not having any affairs with anyone but has  not shown much remorse.

We tried counselling and of course he says that doesn't help.  He says he will not open up to a counsellor no matter what.  Had I "kept my mouth shut" no one would have known of the affairs and there wouldn't have been any issues.  He always tries to turn it around to be my fault.  I will admit our marriage was not perfect.  HOwever the only things we ever fought about were the children and his "disappearing" for hours.

I am currently enrolled in college, working toward a degree in order to become independant.  My youngest child will go off to University next year and I should be finished so will move on.  Still so sad that I will have to start over at 50 years old.  Our family will never be that family we all dreamed of.

In hindsite, I believe this man cheated on his first wife and I can think of many times that he probably cheated on me.  How stupid I feel to have believed in and trusted a man like that.

I probably could write a book on all the things from the past but I belieive it is now time to move on and time for my children and I to have a better life.

I feel for Michelle.  She'll be better off without him.  No matter how much help.  Once a cheater always a cheater. They just get better at covering it up and feel less and less remorse.

 
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November 19, 2007, 9:05 pm PST

Michelle & Wade

I hope by now Michelle has escape this madman.   He is one the scariest people I have seen as a guest on Dr. Phil.  He clearly reminded me of Hanibal Lector; his lips curled up in a tight squeeze awaiting to attack his next victim.   Michelle will be in grave danger if she stays with this psycopath, not only for her safety but the safety of her children.  I escaped an abusive husband with nothing more than the clothes on my back nine years ago and I have had an incredible life since then.  I have not remarried or entered into a committed relationship except to love, respect, honor and cherish myself and my life.  Had I stayed I may not be alive to give myself the most precious gift of life, something my possessive, abusive husband tried to steal from me. 

 
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