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(Original Air Date: 11/19/07) Should you stay in a marriage with your husband if you find out a secret that disgusts you? Michelle thought she had the perfect marriage until recently, when she found out her husband of four years, Wade, was a sex addict and compulsive liar. He admits to cheating on her while she was pregnant, but says since then he's been faithful. Michelle made Wade take an online polygraph test that he failed. Why is Michelle convinced Wade is having an affair, and what proof does she say she has? Wade says there's a simple explanation and wants to take another lie detector test to prove his innocence. When Dr. Phil reveals the results of the second polygraph, will Michelle's fears be confirmed or put to rest? Concerned for the well-being of their two sets of twins, will Michelle decide to divorce Wade or hold on to the hope that their marriage can be healed? Join the discussion.

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November 22, 2007, 9:58 am PST

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I was the first to post a message on this board...before the 3 episodes even aired.  There was a reason for that.  Michelle and her 4 children are in MORTAL DANGER.  After watching all 3 episodes, I am even more convinced of this than before.

 

There have been many posts mentioning that Michelle is co-dependent.  I am not a psychiatrist, however, I could NOT disagree more!  She is scared beyond belief!  Scared for herself and for her children, as well she should be.

 

I was married for 17 years to a man who was a drug addict AND a porn addict.  I gave birth to three sons with this man because I was not aware of his addictions for several years.  Maybe I should have listened to my "little voice" instead of thinking I could change him.

 

I left him 3 different times...the first time he convinced me to come back after only one day, the second time lasted almost a week and the third time was the charm.  I actually took a vacation day, had movers come to take a few things out of the house and move them into the apartment I had rented.  Then I filed for divorce.

 

I am ashamed to say that I did not take my 3 boys (11, 13 & 15 at the time) because I felt that he needed to learn how to be a father instead of trying to be the boys' best friend.  No matter what I said to them, they knew they could go to their dad and he would tell them what they wanted to hear.  I thought they would be OK with him since his mother lived with us and would be there to help take care of them.

 

Then I received a call from my middle son at 6:30am on Dec 15, 1992.  He was so hysterical that I could hardly understand him.  However, I did understand "MOM!  DAD'S DEAD!"  I threw on some clothes and jumped in the car.  I was driving 75mph down residential streets in Houston praying for a cop to stop me.  Of course, they're never around when you really need them.

 

When I reached the house, the paramedics were already packing up their stuff to leave.  I knew then that I was too late.  A Deputy met me at the door and I told him who I was and asked him what had happened.  He told me that my ex had "huffed" Freon 22 (this is the industrial strength freon for those who are not familiar...my ex was  pipe-fitter and had access to it).  Apparently, it killed him immediately because my ex-mother-in-law found him lying totally naked on the floor face down. The freon was still turned on and there was a porn video playing on the VCR.  She screamed and all 3 boys immediately came running.  They saw EVERYTHING!  In fact, my middle son had to turn off the freon.

 

My middle and youngest son then noticed a fireplace shovel shoved between the cushions of his recliner with the handle facing out and a condom on it.  Apparently, he was sodomizing himself while watching the porn and then decided to huff the freon to get high while doing the other things.  There was no suicide note ever found so my belief is that he was just acting on 2 of his addictions, i.e., porn and drugs, and REALLY screwed up.  My 2 youngest sons put the fireplace shovel back and threw away the condom before the police arrived because they didn't want them to see it.

 

Next month marks the 15th anniversary of his death and frankly I am still glad it happened.  However, my sons were in therapy for a year.  The middle one has never really gotten over his father's death...they were very close.  I have always wondered just HOW close they were.  I asked my son if his father ever sexually abused him and he fervently denies it, however, I'll always have my doubts.

 

My middle son REALLY began acting out after wards.  He has been locked up in the Harris County Jail more times than I can remember.  I feel quite sure that he is on a first name basis with all the guards and deputies as well as their families.  He is 28 now and is serving  years in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice.  He is up for parole in March 2008 and is totally convinced that it will happen and he will be out on the street again.

 

Little does he know that I will be at that Parole Hearing in March of next year.  I will not be there to help him get OUT...I will be there to ask that he be kept IN!!!  He needs to serve the entire 2 year sentence.  I intend to tell the Parole Board that my opinion, as his mother, is that he is still a danger to society and that I am in fear of my life should he be released. These are both very true statements and I intend to make them while under oath.

 

When he as 15 years old, I confronted him with the marijuana I had found in his room and he broke my nose.  Then when I picked up the phone to call 911, he grabbed it from me and tried to knock me out with it.  Another situation happened in the garage when I told him it was time to come in the house...it was very late.  That time, he grabbed a knife and came after me with it.  Fortunately, I was close enough to the door that I was able to go inside and lock myself in.

 

I apologize for this long diatribe, however, I am only alive today by the Grace of God.  Between what my ex could and would have done to me had  I not left him and what my middle son has done to me, if it weren't for God looking out for me, I wouldn't be here to type this posting.

 

My entire point is that Michelle needs to get OUT!!!  RIGHT NOW!  TODAY!  She also needs to take her children when she goes and never look back.  Wade has some SERIOUS mental problems and she is not equipped to handle them.  He could do her he same favor my ex did and kill himself, whether on purpose or accidentally.  However, he's too much of a narcissist to do that.  Wade thinks he's the only person in he world who is always right...everybody else is always wrong in his mind.

 

Sheila

I am so sorry that you are let with picking up the peices from that man. You need to go read the definition for co-dependent.
 
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November 22, 2007, 6:33 pm PST

shes a sickie too

OK< but did she have to play sex games with him too? No one told her to do that..and if the FBI guy told her to do that then thats a  BIG problem as well. They had sex AFTER she told him she would help move the body??!!Whats up with that? If shes in such mortal danger then why is she playing sex games with him? Yea, he's NUTS, no doubt about it but she must think shes something really special if she thought he wasnt going to turn on her...shes got her own "thought disorder" and the ones truly paying the price are the children of these two psycho's.
 

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November 22, 2007, 7:30 pm PST

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I am not one to post on sites, but watched the show about Wade and Michelle both days.  I totally get "liar" from him.  I feel he's play acting....and at that is not a good actor.  I don't believe any of his story.  There was a second and I do mean second that I thought post traumatic stress, but - no....just lies.  I also don't believe Michelle.  Her cries (I think I noticed 3 tears) seem fake, she doesn't really seem frightened.  I think they're both attention seekers.  There was a couple several months ago where the husband put a GPS on the wives car, and many other horrible things - those two were real...she was genuinely petrified and he was truly unbalanced.  Will wait and see what plays out on this one for sure.  Anna
 
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November 23, 2007, 6:04 am PST

11/19 A Husband's Shocking Confessions

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I've caught my husband with prostitutes.  He says he's not doing this anymore, but something is telling me differently.   He can't "perform" for "medical" reasons, yet I find porn hidden all over the place.  I don't know how to catch him and I probably just don't have the energy because I don't want to know.   He swears he's doing nothing and that there's nothing wrong with me, yet he rarely comes near me.  Believe me...I take good care of myself and have had numerous offers to stray....it's just not something I can do.  I think he has the same type of addiction....what are the signs???  I don't think he's having an affair, just running around for quick satisfaction.....(still NO excuse).
 
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November 23, 2007, 9:20 am PST

She has issues.

 Was I the only one who watched all three of these episodes in disbelief? OK ,Wade has an addiction to porn and has had an affair, did Michelle really think that he would be any different in the relationship with her than her was with wife #1. I would be interested to know how Wade and Michelle met.  First show she calls him liar and porn addict then takes away his porn, now what happens when a person goes cold turkey, they look for something else to fill the void.  I believe Wade chose to tell Michelle these crazy stories because he got off on it.  She flat out admitted to role playing sex games.

Episode two, Michelle calls Dr. Phil to tell her tale and Dr. Phil tells Michelle to be very careful, he suggested a safe house, but no Michelle chooses instead to file a restraining order, go back to their house and take 2 ambien and pass out.  Oh yea, she has issues.  Also she cuts herself, I don't know if anyone else caught that.  Why can we pick Wade apart but Michelle can act like an idiot and we just ignore it? 

Episode Three, Wade comes to the show to interview again.  Yes he obviously is a sick puppy but from what is hard to tell, maybe PTSS, I am not a doctor.  I do not believe he killed anyone, I believe Michelle has a histrionic personality disorder (again just a guess) and these stories he told her worked to her advantage.  Let's be clear here through this entire ordeal I have never heard anyone discuss Wade ever hurting Michelle or the children.

In closing, shame on the Dr. Phil show for giving this woman a forum for her attention seeking behavior. If Wade hurt someone he should be in jail away from the rest of society, if he did not, he should be receiving counseling, and Michelle has not for one moment put her children's safety first.  I realize that Dr. Phil pays his FBI buddy Jack to do his polygraph tests but perhaps Jack crossed a line.  Wade told her in no uncertain terms where and when he supposedly committed these crimes, the police should have been able to wrap this case up without Michelle AND HER CHILDREN staying in the house playing mind games. Wade was absolutely right for getting angry at Dr. Phil and retired FBI guy Jack for not protecting his children if they really felt he was violent.


 
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November 23, 2007, 12:37 pm PST

I am so sorry Sheila

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I was the first to post a message on this board...before the 3 episodes even aired.  There was a reason for that.  Michelle and her 4 children are in MORTAL DANGER.  After watching all 3 episodes, I am even more convinced of this than before.

 

There have been many posts mentioning that Michelle is co-dependent.  I am not a psychiatrist, however, I could NOT disagree more!  She is scared beyond belief!  Scared for herself and for her children, as well she should be.

 

I was married for 17 years to a man who was a drug addict AND a porn addict.  I gave birth to three sons with this man because I was not aware of his addictions for several years.  Maybe I should have listened to my "little voice" instead of thinking I could change him.

 

I left him 3 different times...the first time he convinced me to come back after only one day, the second time lasted almost a week and the third time was the charm.  I actually took a vacation day, had movers come to take a few things out of the house and move them into the apartment I had rented.  Then I filed for divorce.

 

I am ashamed to say that I did not take my 3 boys (11, 13 & 15 at the time) because I felt that he needed to learn how to be a father instead of trying to be the boys' best friend.  No matter what I said to them, they knew they could go to their dad and he would tell them what they wanted to hear.  I thought they would be OK with him since his mother lived with us and would be there to help take care of them.

 

Then I received a call from my middle son at 6:30am on Dec 15, 1992.  He was so hysterical that I could hardly understand him.  However, I did understand "MOM!  DAD'S DEAD!"  I threw on some clothes and jumped in the car.  I was driving 75mph down residential streets in Houston praying for a cop to stop me.  Of course, they're never around when you really need them.

 

When I reached the house, the paramedics were already packing up their stuff to leave.  I knew then that I was too late.  A Deputy met me at the door and I told him who I was and asked him what had happened.  He told me that my ex had "huffed" Freon 22 (this is the industrial strength freon for those who are not familiar...my ex was  pipe-fitter and had access to it).  Apparently, it killed him immediately because my ex-mother-in-law found him lying totally naked on the floor face down. The freon was still turned on and there was a porn video playing on the VCR.  She screamed and all 3 boys immediately came running.  They saw EVERYTHING!  In fact, my middle son had to turn off the freon.

 

My middle and youngest son then noticed a fireplace shovel shoved between the cushions of his recliner with the handle facing out and a condom on it.  Apparently, he was sodomizing himself while watching the porn and then decided to huff the freon to get high while doing the other things.  There was no suicide note ever found so my belief is that he was just acting on 2 of his addictions, i.e., porn and drugs, and REALLY screwed up.  My 2 youngest sons put the fireplace shovel back and threw away the condom before the police arrived because they didn't want them to see it.

 

Next month marks the 15th anniversary of his death and frankly I am still glad it happened.  However, my sons were in therapy for a year.  The middle one has never really gotten over his father's death...they were very close.  I have always wondered just HOW close they were.  I asked my son if his father ever sexually abused him and he fervently denies it, however, I'll always have my doubts.

 

My middle son REALLY began acting out after wards.  He has been locked up in the Harris County Jail more times than I can remember.  I feel quite sure that he is on a first name basis with all the guards and deputies as well as their families.  He is 28 now and is serving  years in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice.  He is up for parole in March 2008 and is totally convinced that it will happen and he will be out on the street again.

 

Little does he know that I will be at that Parole Hearing in March of next year.  I will not be there to help him get OUT...I will be there to ask that he be kept IN!!!  He needs to serve the entire 2 year sentence.  I intend to tell the Parole Board that my opinion, as his mother, is that he is still a danger to society and that I am in fear of my life should he be released. These are both very true statements and I intend to make them while under oath.

 

When he as 15 years old, I confronted him with the marijuana I had found in his room and he broke my nose.  Then when I picked up the phone to call 911, he grabbed it from me and tried to knock me out with it.  Another situation happened in the garage when I told him it was time to come in the house...it was very late.  That time, he grabbed a knife and came after me with it.  Fortunately, I was close enough to the door that I was able to go inside and lock myself in.

 

I apologize for this long diatribe, however, I am only alive today by the Grace of God.  Between what my ex could and would have done to me had  I not left him and what my middle son has done to me, if it weren't for God looking out for me, I wouldn't be here to type this posting.

 

My entire point is that Michelle needs to get OUT!!!  RIGHT NOW!  TODAY!  She also needs to take her children when she goes and never look back.  Wade has some SERIOUS mental problems and she is not equipped to handle them.  He could do her he same favor my ex did and kill himself, whether on purpose or accidentally.  However, he's too much of a narcissist to do that.  Wade thinks he's the only person in he world who is always right...everybody else is always wrong in his mind.

 

Sheila

     I cannot possibly, even remotely, begin to understand the hell that you have been through.  It sounds horrific, to say the very least.  Absolutely unfathomable.  I am so very sorry for what you went through then, and the continuing ramifications that you continue to face in the present time.

My prayers are with you.

I do completely agree, 100% that Michelle needs to take what ever steps that are necessary to keep herself and all of her children safe.

I am saddened that this whole scenario, (as seen on Dr. Phil's show) while shocking, is not a terribly unusual situation.  I know it from my own experiences, as well as the other brave people that have shared their story.....

I have read all the responses on the other two episodes' boards, but it is too much for me to keep up with so I continue here. 

Not that it matters, but I think that Wade is a brilliant master manipulator.  I believe he has been deviantly unfaithful to his wife, and that he is ashamed of those actions---whatever they may be. 

Further, I believe, while it is entirely possible that this man raped/harmed/killed someone, I would be much more inclined to believe that the stories of alleged rape/harm/murder are nothing more than elaborate stories to deflect not only the public's attention, but Michelle's attention as well, from the original theme of the series----sexual addiction, betrayal, and infidelity.  This is his real shame.  This is what he has been hiding and lying about.

I could be totally wrong, but it has been my experience, personally, that when a sex addict is in disclosure, they will bring up all possible wrongs, real or fictitious, to steal the spotlight from the TRUE shame of his (or her) betrayals. Shame is the core of all addictions.   Wade could claim to kill 100 people and feel nothing, but it seems that his main fear or shame is the never ending deceptions and betrayals that he has bestowed onto his wife.  That is where the shame-anger-rage-blame cycle seems to show itself.  It is a sick, Narcissistic circle for which I am not sure there is a cure.....but for some pathological reason, people (like myself at times) keep trying anyway.....

I am sorry that Michelle felt that she "had to" have sex with Wade to get the "answers they say she needed to get."  However, living with a sex addict and/or Narcissist who isn't getting the sexual attention, power, and admiration that they command can be its own living hell.  No, it's not right to have sex with someone for the wrong reasons, but at times, (and again, I say it's not right) it is just easier to live through the 90 seconds its gonna take to let him get his rocks off so the other party can have some peace.  Chances are, they are so used to j-ing off they won't last very long anyway.  I know that is sick and wrong in every way, and it should never take place.  I have done this in the years past, (not in the last 4-5 months) and it is awful, degrading, and so many other horrible things.

I REFUSE to accommodate anyone in such a way, but I will not stand in judgement of anyone who has had to for the sake of survival.

In this case, I don't know to what extent to believe either of these parties, but that said, don't be too quick to judge Michelle for 'not playing with a full deck,' or maybe 'a few bricks short of a full load,' as I have read on these boards.  Everything this woman has ever believed in has been shattered.  She has been lied to, betrayed, interrogated, told something only to have it recanted, and vice versa.  Her truths have become lies, and her fears have become reality.  She's been accused of being fake, being dramatic, being blank, being in shock.  I don't know of a script that anyone is supposed to follow with all this going on, and a family to raise at the same time.

She needs to get out---for sure, and she will need a lot of help getting through all of this. 
 
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November 23, 2007, 8:49 pm PST

Jack is wrong

Jack, the former FBI guy, said that he treated her like he would have his youngest daughter. Give me a break! What's up, do you hate your youngest daughter. Jack (employed by the show) was giving Michelle dangerous advice. Even if he didn't think Wade had done anything, he must still be sick to think he did, or even if he just made it up he is sick and dangerous. Dr Phil cut off the discussion between Wade & Jack (ex-FBI) because Jack was failing to make any sense about why he would suggest Michelle do this and Wade was making sense (even though he as extremely mad). The wife is sick (she cuts herself, takes an overdose, calls the husband and plays "mind/sex" games with him knowing he has confessed to murder/rape. Dr. Phil did not stress enough her sickness or the fact that she desperately needs psychiatric help regardless of her husband's problems. She and the husband don't need to be around those four boys at this time. Dr. Phil should have said he would contact Department of Children Services to have them look into the boy’s situation. The boys are in danger (if not physical, then definitely emotional danger). The 3 hours leading up to the end was so explosive and then wham! NOTHING. I agree with someone else who said that this show should not have aired until more results were in.

 
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November 24, 2007, 8:59 am PST

Thank you for your sentiment

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I am so sorry that you are let with picking up the peices from that man. You need to go read the definition for co-dependent.

I truly appreciate your sympathy for what my three sons and  I have been through.  I am stuck in the "anger stage" of the grieving process and am not sure if I will ever progress.  My greatest hope is that my ex-husband and his father are now burning in the ninth realm of hell.  My ex-husband's father was killed in a car accident the day after my ex died.  He knew about the death because I called him to tell him even though he had always hated me with a passion.  I knew he didn't hate "me"...he would have hated anyone who took his only child away from him.

 

My ex and I both belong to the Living Bank (a great organization for those interested...their URL is http://www.livingbank.org) so when the funeral home picked up the body, we never saw it again.  There was a memorial but no burial.  There was absolutely NO reason for his father to fly to Houston.  He would not have been able to see his son and there was no funeral planned.  The only reason he came was to take my three boys away from me. Our Blessed Lord decided that was not going to happen and took care of the problem.  I will believe that forever.

 

I'm not sure that I could actually be considered co-dependent by the strict definition of the term; however, I will agree that I stayed WAY longer than I should have. The first time I left him, the boys were 2, 4, and 6. Had I divorced him then and not allowed visitation rights to him, the boys' behavior may have been different.  At least they would never have been subjected to finding their father naked and dead on the floor.

 

However; I'm sure you've heard the saying "Hindsight is always 20--20".  There are so many things I would change in the past had I known what the eventual outcome would be but that is not within my power.  At this point, I just trust in Our Lord to guide me along the right path and do what I can to be a good influence for my three sons and twin grandsons.

 

Thanks again!

 

Sheila

 
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November 24, 2007, 9:14 am PST

Thank you!

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     I cannot possibly, even remotely, begin to understand the hell that you have been through.  It sounds horrific, to say the very least.  Absolutely unfathomable.  I am so very sorry for what you went through then, and the continuing ramifications that you continue to face in the present time.

My prayers are with you.

I do completely agree, 100% that Michelle needs to take what ever steps that are necessary to keep herself and all of her children safe.

I am saddened that this whole scenario, (as seen on Dr. Phil's show) while shocking, is not a terribly unusual situation.  I know it from my own experiences, as well as the other brave people that have shared their story.....

I have read all the responses on the other two episodes' boards, but it is too much for me to keep up with so I continue here. 

Not that it matters, but I think that Wade is a brilliant master manipulator.  I believe he has been deviantly unfaithful to his wife, and that he is ashamed of those actions---whatever they may be. 

Further, I believe, while it is entirely possible that this man raped/harmed/killed someone, I would be much more inclined to believe that the stories of alleged rape/harm/murder are nothing more than elaborate stories to deflect not only the public's attention, but Michelle's attention as well, from the original theme of the series----sexual addiction, betrayal, and infidelity.  This is his real shame.  This is what he has been hiding and lying about.

I could be totally wrong, but it has been my experience, personally, that when a sex addict is in disclosure, they will bring up all possible wrongs, real or fictitious, to steal the spotlight from the TRUE shame of his (or her) betrayals. Shame is the core of all addictions.   Wade could claim to kill 100 people and feel nothing, but it seems that his main fear or shame is the never ending deceptions and betrayals that he has bestowed onto his wife.  That is where the shame-anger-rage-blame cycle seems to show itself.  It is a sick, Narcissistic circle for which I am not sure there is a cure.....but for some pathological reason, people (like myself at times) keep trying anyway.....

I am sorry that Michelle felt that she "had to" have sex with Wade to get the "answers they say she needed to get."  However, living with a sex addict and/or Narcissist who isn't getting the sexual attention, power, and admiration that they command can be its own living hell.  No, it's not right to have sex with someone for the wrong reasons, but at times, (and again, I say it's not right) it is just easier to live through the 90 seconds its gonna take to let him get his rocks off so the other party can have some peace.  Chances are, they are so used to j-ing off they won't last very long anyway.  I know that is sick and wrong in every way, and it should never take place.  I have done this in the years past, (not in the last 4-5 months) and it is awful, degrading, and so many other horrible things.

I REFUSE to accommodate anyone in such a way, but I will not stand in judgement of anyone who has had to for the sake of survival.

In this case, I don't know to what extent to believe either of these parties, but that said, don't be too quick to judge Michelle for 'not playing with a full deck,' or maybe 'a few bricks short of a full load,' as I have read on these boards.  Everything this woman has ever believed in has been shattered.  She has been lied to, betrayed, interrogated, told something only to have it recanted, and vice versa.  Her truths have become lies, and her fears have become reality.  She's been accused of being fake, being dramatic, being blank, being in shock.  I don't know of a script that anyone is supposed to follow with all this going on, and a family to raise at the same time.

She needs to get out---for sure, and she will need a lot of help getting through all of this. 

Thank you so much for your empathy and thank you even more for your prayers. One can never have too many people praying for them.

 

I did not mean for my long story to take away the emphasis on ensuring Michelle's and her children's safety.  I just wanted people to know what really CAN happen when they're dealing with a sick puppy like Wade.  I don't know if Michelle would be considered "co-dependent" by a psychiatrist; however, my "little voice" tells me that she is.  The fact that she allowed herself to be forced to have sex with Wade just because he demanded it and she was trying to "keep the peace" tells me that she may really have some co-dependency tendencies.  At the very least, she doesn't seem to respect herself very much.

 

My MAIN question is WHY ARE SHE AND HER CHILDREN STILL WITH HIM??????????  Dr. Phil has offered her refuge and she has yet to accept it!  My greatest fear is that the next time we hear an update on this story, it will be that Michelle and her four boys were all shot and killed by Wade.  That would be the ultimate tragedy and I pray with all my heart and soul that this will not happen.

 

Michelle...if you are reading these postings, my advice to you is to TAKE YOUR BOYS AND GET OUT NOW!  Wade is SICK and he will never get better with you and the kids there to coddle him!  Let the professionals handle it...it is beyond your capability and you are MUCH too close for comfort!  If you don't care about yourself, at least care about your sons!  I am praying for you and those babies!

 

Sheila

 
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November 24, 2007, 5:13 pm PST

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I truly appreciate your sympathy for what my three sons and  I have been through.  I am stuck in the "anger stage" of the grieving process and am not sure if I will ever progress.  My greatest hope is that my ex-husband and his father are now burning in the ninth realm of hell.  My ex-husband's father was killed in a car accident the day after my ex died.  He knew about the death because I called him to tell him even though he had always hated me with a passion.  I knew he didn't hate "me"...he would have hated anyone who took his only child away from him.

 

My ex and I both belong to the Living Bank (a great organization for those interested...their URL is http://www.livingbank.org) so when the funeral home picked up the body, we never saw it again.  There was a memorial but no burial.  There was absolutely NO reason for his father to fly to Houston.  He would not have been able to see his son and there was no funeral planned.  The only reason he came was to take my three boys away from me. Our Blessed Lord decided that was not going to happen and took care of the problem.  I will believe that forever.

 

I'm not sure that I could actually be considered co-dependent by the strict definition of the term; however, I will agree that I stayed WAY longer than I should have. The first time I left him, the boys were 2, 4, and 6. Had I divorced him then and not allowed visitation rights to him, the boys' behavior may have been different.  At least they would never have been subjected to finding their father naked and dead on the floor.

 

However; I'm sure you've heard the saying "Hindsight is always 20--20".  There are so many things I would change in the past had I known what the eventual outcome would be but that is not within my power.  At this point, I just trust in Our Lord to guide me along the right path and do what I can to be a good influence for my three sons and twin grandsons.

 

Thanks again!

 

Sheila

You are very welcome. I know what it's like living with someone who was like Wade. The only difference is he never "confessed" to a murder. He did try to murder me, because he was molesting my daughter and didn't want me to find out. I was very co-dependent and I still have the traits, which is why I am alone.

 

I hope that you know deep inside that your ex and his father will both be facing God. Take comfort in that, since they didn't see human justice,God's judgement is far worse and permanent than human justice could ever be.

 
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