Quote From: honeyeightI was the first to post a message on this board...before the 3 episodes even aired. There was a reason for that. Michelle and her 4 children are in MORTAL DANGER. After watching all 3 episodes, I am even more convinced of this than before.
There have been many posts mentioning that Michelle is co-dependent. I am not a psychiatrist, however, I could NOT disagree more! She is scared beyond belief! Scared for herself and for her children, as well she should be.
I was married for 17 years to a man who was a drug addict AND a porn addict. I gave birth to three sons with this man because I was not aware of his addictions for several years. Maybe I should have listened to my "little voice" instead of thinking I could change him.
I left him 3 different times...the first time he convinced me to come back after only one day, the second time lasted almost a week and the third time was the charm. I actually took a vacation day, had movers come to take a few things out of the house and move them into the apartment I had rented. Then I filed for divorce.
I am ashamed to say that I did not take my 3 boys (11, 13 & 15 at the time) because I felt that he needed to learn how to be a father instead of trying to be the boys' best friend. No matter what I said to them, they knew they could go to their dad and he would tell them what they wanted to hear. I thought they would be OK with him since his mother lived with us and would be there to help take care of them.
Then I received a call from my middle son at 6:30am on Dec 15, 1992. He was so hysterical that I could hardly understand him. However, I did understand "MOM! DAD'S DEAD!" I threw on some clothes and jumped in the car. I was driving 75mph down residential streets in Houston praying for a cop to stop me. Of course, they're never around when you really need them.
When I reached the house, the paramedics were already packing up their stuff to leave. I knew then that I was too late. A Deputy met me at the door and I told him who I was and asked him what had happened. He told me that my ex had "huffed" Freon 22 (this is the industrial strength freon for those who are not familiar...my ex was pipe-fitter and had access to it). Apparently, it killed him immediately because my ex-mother-in-law found him lying totally naked on the floor face down. The freon was still turned on and there was a porn video playing on the VCR. She screamed and all 3 boys immediately came running. They saw EVERYTHING! In fact, my middle son had to turn off the freon.
My middle and youngest son then noticed a fireplace shovel shoved between the cushions of his recliner with the handle facing out and a condom on it. Apparently, he was sodomizing himself while watching the porn and then decided to huff the freon to get high while doing the other things. There was no suicide note ever found so my belief is that he was just acting on 2 of his addictions, i.e., porn and drugs, and REALLY screwed up. My 2 youngest sons put the fireplace shovel back and threw away the condom before the police arrived because they didn't want them to see it.
Next month marks the 15th anniversary of his death and frankly I am still glad it happened. However, my sons were in therapy for a year. The middle one has never really gotten over his father's death...they were very close. I have always wondered just HOW close they were. I asked my son if his father ever sexually abused him and he fervently denies it, however, I'll always have my doubts.
My middle son REALLY began acting out after wards. He has been locked up in the Harris County Jail more times than I can remember. I feel quite sure that he is on a first name basis with all the guards and deputies as well as their families. He is 28 now and is serving years in the Texas Department of Criminal Justice. He is up for parole in March 2008 and is totally convinced that it will happen and he will be out on the street again.
Little does he know that I will be at that Parole Hearing in March of next year. I will not be there to help him get OUT...I will be there to ask that he be kept IN!!! He needs to serve the entire 2 year sentence. I intend to tell the Parole Board that my opinion, as his mother, is that he is still a danger to society and that I am in fear of my life should he be released. These are both very true statements and I intend to make them while under oath.
When he as 15 years old, I confronted him with the marijuana I had found in his room and he broke my nose. Then when I picked up the phone to call 911, he grabbed it from me and tried to knock me out with it. Another situation happened in the garage when I told him it was time to come in the house...it was very late. That time, he grabbed a knife and came after me with it. Fortunately, I was close enough to the door that I was able to go inside and lock myself in.
I apologize for this long diatribe, however, I am only alive today by the Grace of God. Between what my ex could and would have done to me had I not left him and what my middle son has done to me, if it weren't for God looking out for me, I wouldn't be here to type this posting.
My entire point is that Michelle needs to get OUT!!! RIGHT NOW! TODAY! She also needs to take her children when she goes and never look back. Wade has some SERIOUS mental problems and she is not equipped to handle them. He could do her he same favor my ex did and kill himself, whether on purpose or accidentally. However, he's too much of a narcissist to do that. Wade thinks he's the only person in he world who is always right...everybody else is always wrong in his mind.
Sheila
I cannot possibly, even remotely, begin to understand the hell that you have
been through. It sounds horrific, to say the very least. Absolutely
unfathomable. I am so very sorry for what you went through then, and the
continuing ramifications that you continue to face in the present
time.
My prayers are with you.
I do completely agree, 100% that
Michelle needs to take what ever steps that are necessary to keep herself and
all of her children safe.
I am saddened that this whole scenario, (as
seen on Dr. Phil's show) while shocking, is not a terribly unusual situation. I
know it from my own experiences, as well as the other brave people that
have shared their story.....
I have read all the responses on the other
two episodes' boards, but it is too much for me to keep up with so I continue here.
Not
that it matters, but I think that Wade is a brilliant master manipulator. I
believe he has been deviantly unfaithful to his wife, and that he is ashamed of
those actions---whatever they may be.
Further, I believe, while it is
entirely possible that this man raped/harmed/killed someone, I would be much
more inclined to believe that the stories of alleged rape/harm/murder are
nothing more than elaborate stories to deflect not only the public's attention,
but Michelle's attention as well, from the original theme of the
series----sexual addiction, betrayal, and infidelity. This is his real shame. This is what he has been hiding and lying about.
I could be
totally wrong, but it has been my experience, personally, that when a sex addict
is in disclosure, they will bring up all possible wrongs, real or fictitious, to
steal the spotlight from the TRUE shame of his (or her) betrayals. Shame is the
core of all addictions. Wade could claim to kill 100 people and feel nothing,
but it seems that his main fear or shame is the never ending deceptions and
betrayals that he has bestowed onto his wife. That is where the
shame-anger-rage-blame cycle seems to show itself. It is a sick, Narcissistic
circle for which I am not sure there is a cure.....but for some pathological
reason, people (like myself at times) keep trying anyway.....
I am sorry
that Michelle felt that she "had to" have sex with Wade to get the "answers they
say she needed to get." However, living with a sex addict and/or Narcissist who
isn't getting the sexual attention, power, and admiration that they command can
be its own living hell. No, it's not right to have sex with someone for the
wrong reasons, but at times, (and again, I say it's not right) it is just easier
to live through the 90 seconds its gonna take to let him get his rocks off so
the other party can have some peace. Chances are, they are so used to j-ing off
they won't last very long anyway. I know that is sick and wrong in every way,
and it should never take place. I have done this in the years past, (not in the
last 4-5 months) and it is awful, degrading, and so many other horrible
things.
I REFUSE to accommodate anyone in such a way, but I will not
stand in judgement of anyone who has had to for the sake of survival.
In
this case, I don't know to what extent to believe either of these parties, but
that said, don't be too quick to judge Michelle for 'not playing with a full
deck,' or maybe 'a few bricks short of a full load,' as I have read on these
boards. Everything this woman has ever believed in has been shattered. She has
been lied to, betrayed, interrogated, told something only to have it recanted,
and vice versa. Her truths have become lies, and her fears have become
reality. She's been accused of being fake, being dramatic, being blank, being
in shock. I don't know of a script that anyone is supposed to follow with all
this going on, and a family to raise at the same time.
She needs to get
out---for sure, and she will need a lot of help getting through all of this.