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(Original Air Date: 11/19/07) Should you stay in a marriage with your husband if you find out a secret that disgusts you? Michelle thought she had the perfect marriage until recently, when she found out her husband of four years, Wade, was a sex addict and compulsive liar. He admits to cheating on her while she was pregnant, but says since then he's been faithful. Michelle made Wade take an online polygraph test that he failed. Why is Michelle convinced Wade is having an affair, and what proof does she say she has? Wade says there's a simple explanation and wants to take another lie detector test to prove his innocence. When Dr. Phil reveals the results of the second polygraph, will Michelle's fears be confirmed or put to rest? Concerned for the well-being of their two sets of twins, will Michelle decide to divorce Wade or hold on to the hope that their marriage can be healed? Join the discussion.

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July 28, 2008, 5:07 pm PDT

You already know.........

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I've caught my husband with prostitutes.  He says he's not doing this anymore, but something is telling me differently.   He can't "perform" for "medical" reasons, yet I find porn hidden all over the place.  I don't know how to catch him and I probably just don't have the energy because I don't want to know.   He swears he's doing nothing and that there's nothing wrong with me, yet he rarely comes near me.  Believe me...I take good care of myself and have had numerous offers to stray....it's just not something I can do.  I think he has the same type of addiction....what are the signs???  I don't think he's having an affair, just running around for quick satisfaction.....(still NO excuse).

You already know the signs...you are seeing them.

 

You have two choices at this point: either you can ignore your husband's behavior and risk putting your own health at risk (STDs, AIDS....the "gifts" that keep on giving).....OR, you can rustle up some dignity and get the hell out while you can, and work on making your life better. No one will do it for  you.

 

Every day you waste on this abusive relationship is one less day you have to make a REAL life for yourself.

 

Think about that.

 
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July 28, 2008, 6:58 pm PDT

Sex Addiction

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I have watched the program and also read some of the posts relating to it...I understand what this guy is going through,,no its not right what hes doing but it is sometimes out of the persons control and help is not easily found.I also want to point out that it is not only a ""husband""who behaves in such a manner.I live the same life as he does ,up to a certain point..It is a very hard thing to live through and to know how out of control a person can feel. Life gets so focused on sex and how to fullfill your needs that you simply lose sight of anything else in life..Matters dont get easier or even go away but tend to get worst.And i do agree help is needed to get over such a problem,it can not be controlled by the person with the problem.The mind takes over to the point where there is no control left to stop the thoughts from approaching.Help is not always available so the problem only grows worst.I just thought i would give my out look on it and give an opinion from the wife side of living with such an out of control problem..

You have described what it is like to be in the grip of an addiction.  There is help for sex addicts.  You can go to your local or nearby center that treats alcohol, drug, gambling and other addictions and there are also Sex Addicts Anonymous (SA or SAA) meetings which men and women attend to find serenity and freedom from sexual addiction.  There are also SA and SAA meetings being held online, which could be used if there is no meeting in your area.  It is always better to be in a meeting in person, and don't expect to see "perverts" there, they are people like you and I that are willing to take the next step to deal with their sex addiction and the control it has over their lives.  It is possible to recover from sexual addiction and lead sexually healthy lives.  Recovery has worked "miracles" for many of us and I hope you can find the courage to get the help that you need.

 

God Bless,

 

 

 
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July 28, 2008, 7:29 pm PDT

my h is a sex addict

oh my gosh, watching this was like looking at my life a year ago. after 2 years of thinking something was going on with my husband and questioning him about affairs, going to counseling, etc, i found out last summer he was a sex addict. just like michelle and wade, he told me i was paranoid, insecure, etc. well, we both started seeing certified sex addiction therapists, i saw one that treated spouses while he saw one who treated teh addict. i was desperate to keep my family together. we were  married 12 years with 3 small children. we had so many problems getting pregnant, i was so happy that we were even able to have a family. we went thru years of fertiltiy treatments. just like wade, my husband swore he would do whatever it took to keep our family together. the therapists recommended inpatient treatment because he was continuing to lie and act out, he agreed initially, then backed out. this went on for 6 months. i didn't tell anyone, i suffered in silence. he switched therapists 4 times, they all told him the same thing. when i realized he would rather be an addict than be with his family, i filed for divorce. we have been in the divorce process since january.   since filing for divorce, i have found out so much more that he has done. basically he is a pathological liar and the therapists are saying he is a sociopath. he is dragging out the divorce and being so hateful. i have heard that he wants to blow my fu....brains out, wishes i was dead, etc. i wasn't scared until the other night when he brought the kids home. he made a big scene adn it scared me. he sees my kids one night during the week for 2 hours, and one day on the weekend, no overnight visits and he has supervision. i don't know what is going to happen on the show tomorrow, but i do know what it is like to be scared. i have told people that if anything happens to me, he did it. i am having a hard time convincing my attorney that i am not a woman scorned and he has serious problems. i don't know what will happen, but my main concern is my children who are now 2, 3, and 9. if you saw my husband or knew him, you would be shocked. he comes from what i thought was an upstanding high society, well respected family. they are well to do and college educated. my husband is attractive,clean cut, very intelligent, charming, and a manipulator. he owns his own successful accounting firm and is active in church. even people closest to us had no idea and are shocked. his family does not believe any of this, therefore they are enabling him and he will never get help. 

 

i can honestly say i am glad i filed for divorce. initially i did it with my therapists recommendation so that he would hit rock bottom. well, he didn't. he took his ring off and moved out that day. we have not had a conversation about it or our marriage since. if i had known that he would have done that, i dont' know if i would have had the strength to file those papers. i really wanted my marriage to work. well my marriage never would have worked. my husband is a very sick man. i am grateful to be away from him and that my children are not going to grow up in a home with someone like him.

 

thank you dr. phil for doing this show. i don't think sex addiction gets enough exposure. like an earlier post i read, most people think it is someone with a high sex drive or a husband whose wife doesn't satisfy him. it is sooooo much more than that. i didnt' even know there was such a thing, until i found out about my husband.

 
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July 28, 2008, 7:39 pm PDT

what gives

I've been watching this show for a long time and I cant believe how stupid these women are!! Why even bother with these losers?? They let men take advantage of them and continue to stay and put up with it. Do they have no self respect??? Do they not think they deserve better??? It irrates me to no end.

This guy is a total loser!! He's a sorry excuse for a man and he deserves nothing but the worst. WHY DOES SHE EVEN BOTHER TO FIX THINGS?!?!?! Its so incredibly screwed up.  Men like that have no respect for anyone but themselves. If she wants to put up with that then I guess she deserves what she gets. The only reason he does this is BECAUSE SHE ALLOWS HIM TO DO SO. She lets him walk all over her and then she complans about it.   GET A DIVORCE!!!!!!! And don't just say you will and fall back on your word as soon as you get home and let him sweet talk you into coming back. DON'T EXPOSE YOUR CHILDREN TO THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Geesh, WHERE IS THE COMMON SENSE?!?!?!?!

 
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July 28, 2008, 8:02 pm PDT

been there done that - and left him over it

She should divorce him as quickly as possible. He's going to do it again and again - I know - I was married to a porn addict - a good man in other ways - but an addict nonetheless. They never change. Now it's his 2nd wife's problem - no longer mine. I'm happily remarried to a man who simply does not understand the appeal of porn.

 

This guy on the show is a congenital liar. She's better off w/o him. They say they'll change - but they won't - they'll just get sneakier and sneakier about hiding it. She'll never be able to trust him about anything - the porn, the cheating, the lying, whatever else he's done - serial killing? I havent seen the 2nd show about them yet but that was the allusion at the end of tonight's show.

 

 
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July 28, 2008, 8:09 pm PDT

way to go

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oh my gosh, watching this was like looking at my life a year ago. after 2 years of thinking something was going on with my husband and questioning him about affairs, going to counseling, etc, i found out last summer he was a sex addict. just like michelle and wade, he told me i was paranoid, insecure, etc. well, we both started seeing certified sex addiction therapists, i saw one that treated spouses while he saw one who treated teh addict. i was desperate to keep my family together. we were  married 12 years with 3 small children. we had so many problems getting pregnant, i was so happy that we were even able to have a family. we went thru years of fertiltiy treatments. just like wade, my husband swore he would do whatever it took to keep our family together. the therapists recommended inpatient treatment because he was continuing to lie and act out, he agreed initially, then backed out. this went on for 6 months. i didn't tell anyone, i suffered in silence. he switched therapists 4 times, they all told him the same thing. when i realized he would rather be an addict than be with his family, i filed for divorce. we have been in the divorce process since january.   since filing for divorce, i have found out so much more that he has done. basically he is a pathological liar and the therapists are saying he is a sociopath. he is dragging out the divorce and being so hateful. i have heard that he wants to blow my fu....brains out, wishes i was dead, etc. i wasn't scared until the other night when he brought the kids home. he made a big scene adn it scared me. he sees my kids one night during the week for 2 hours, and one day on the weekend, no overnight visits and he has supervision. i don't know what is going to happen on the show tomorrow, but i do know what it is like to be scared. i have told people that if anything happens to me, he did it. i am having a hard time convincing my attorney that i am not a woman scorned and he has serious problems. i don't know what will happen, but my main concern is my children who are now 2, 3, and 9. if you saw my husband or knew him, you would be shocked. he comes from what i thought was an upstanding high society, well respected family. they are well to do and college educated. my husband is attractive,clean cut, very intelligent, charming, and a manipulator. he owns his own successful accounting firm and is active in church. even people closest to us had no idea and are shocked. his family does not believe any of this, therefore they are enabling him and he will never get help. 

 

i can honestly say i am glad i filed for divorce. initially i did it with my therapists recommendation so that he would hit rock bottom. well, he didn't. he took his ring off and moved out that day. we have not had a conversation about it or our marriage since. if i had known that he would have done that, i dont' know if i would have had the strength to file those papers. i really wanted my marriage to work. well my marriage never would have worked. my husband is a very sick man. i am grateful to be away from him and that my children are not going to grow up in a home with someone like him.

 

thank you dr. phil for doing this show. i don't think sex addiction gets enough exposure. like an earlier post i read, most people think it is someone with a high sex drive or a husband whose wife doesn't satisfy him. it is sooooo much more than that. i didnt' even know there was such a thing, until i found out about my husband.

you'll never regret leaving him - mine was like yours, and a military officer as well. Everyone believes I left him because of what he told many of them, that I "just didn't feel cherished."  You're g-damn right I didn't - knowing he couldn't keep his d*** out of his hand and his eyes away from porn. He always made me feel "less than" - but said it didn't have anything to do with me, it was just something he "needed."  He can tell people what he wants but at the end of the day, he has to look at himself in the mirror and know exactly why his marriage ended - because of the porn and the lying about it.

 

So mourn the end of your marriage but know that you are better off w/o him. God bless.

 
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July 28, 2008, 8:17 pm PDT

07/28 A Husband's Shocking Confessions

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Maybe if more women took care of their husbands they would not stray!  After 25 years with the same man, I can still say the sex is hot and passionate like the day I met him.  I have NEVER told my husband NO and he has NEVER strayed.

 After 25 years with the same man, I can still say the sex is hot and passionate like the day I met him. 

Yeah... but what does he say???

 

 
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July 28, 2008, 9:34 pm PDT

No Way !!!!!

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I think, michelle must follow her heart no matter what!!!

No, she should not follow her heart, because this is why she got into this situation.

Women  who love to much and follow their heart, overlook the serious symtoms of

an abusive relationship. I have done the same, all my live I have hoped that there would

be a change in my husbands behaviour and we could save our marriage and get back to

normal. Now after 36 years I filed for divorce and I am very sad that so many years of

my live were waisted. Most of the sex addicts will not change, that's a fact.

Get out of this marriage and run as fast as you can without turning back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    

 
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July 29, 2008, 3:23 am PDT

This show couldn't have come at a better time!

Michelle,

Thank you soooooo much for being brave enough to share your story with the world. Your husband is my husband to a T. In fact, there were at least five times when you said, word for word, the things I constantly scream at my husband. One thing in particular that stands out in my mind is when you pleaded with him, "Are you trying to drive me crazy?"

The moment that just absolutely broke my heart was 7 months ago when my husband admitted to me that sometimes he keeps the conversation going in circles on purpose just so he doesn't have to deal with what I'm saying. The look you had on your face, I have had on my face so often it defines my marriage. I guess the destruction that these men bring to our spirits is just collateral damage to them, totally worth the price of maintain their illusion of control. Being a person with a lot of compassion I just don't understand how someone can do that to another person.

Anyway, I could go on and on, but my point is that 4 days ago I told my husband I was moving out. It is a very hard decision, but I felt I had to choose between my health and my marriage. I cannot suffer through anymore of this stress. I can actually feel my thyroid palpitating when I get so insanely frustrated and angry.

Speaking of which, I was thumbing through Dr. Phil's book Relationship Rescue last night, which I read cover to cover before, and in the chapter on Bad Spirits, of course, is a very acurate description of our husband's passive aggressive behavior.  I know the purpose of the book is not to find a way to point out all of your partner's flaws, but when you think you are going insane it is a great comfort to read something so concrete and know that what you are feeling is, indeed, real. The phrase I plucked from the book that so perfectly describes living with someone like this is, "It's like trying to nail jello to a wall."

 

I haven't actually moved out yet because I need to find an apartment first, but I keep second guessing myself, which I think is natural. Tonight, my husband asked me what I was thinking and I said, " I'm wondering if I'm making the right decision. I'm wondering if this is the best way to fix things." Twenty minutes later when we were having an absurd conversation during which he was trying to explain why when he omitted something really important and then later threw it in my face when I was upset about what I thought was the truth, that he was lying when he said he told me the truth at that moment because he wanted to be honest with me, when in fact he told it to me to rebuff what I was legitimately upset about. (Do you see? Do you see how this could drive a person insane?????)That's when I remembered that I was not moving out to try to save our relationship, but to save myself.

Good luck to you, Michelle. I hope you find a way to do what you need to do for yourself and your children and keep reminding yourself that you and your kids are the most important thing. If your husband is anything like mine, every conversation you have with him will reinforce your feelings once you decide to leave.

 
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July 29, 2008, 8:23 am PDT

i was i a simular situation

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I truly empathize with the wife on this show. I understand how she's feeling. When children are involved ending a marriage becomes complicated. My husband has lived his life very similarly and it doesn't get better. He simply lies more. My husband has the added touch of religion. He will send me lots of religious e-mails. He has been born again more than anyone I know. I have asked him for a divorce, but he refuses. I sent him papers and he states that there isn't a notary, the papers are packed away, or he put them in the trash. The story changes everyday. He has been in Iraq for 1 year, 7 months. During this time I have received e-mails and phone calls from other women stating that he has had sex with them, gotten another woman pregnant and she had an abortion. He always has a story to contradict what they are stating. To add to this, immediately before initially leaving for Iraq he came home intoxicated. He received a text message from a woman. When I confronted him he became extremely violent. Since that day I have the added fear that if I say or do the wrong thing that he may take it upon himself to harm me or even kill me. The night before he left he held a knife to my stomach and told me that he was going to kill me and then himself. All I could focus on was the fact that our six year old son was asleep upstairs and how to keep him from going upstairs. I would like to say that it would be simple to leave him, but we have a son with special needs. I have tried to go back to work several times, but have been unable to find a childcare provider who is willing to keep him. Our son has autism and he has a difficult time transitioning into new settings. He is a beautiful little boy and I worry about caring for him on my own. I can only imagine how the woman today is feeling. I believe I heard that they have two sets of twins. Caring for them and having to deal with her husband's deceit has got to be overwhelming. My heart goes out to her.
i was married into a family that was like wade. i was stupd enough to build my house right in the middel of them.  knew i wasnt myself but i could not figue out what was wrong with me. i knew my sweet wife who went to church and was a r.n. could not have anything to do with it. then she started setting up acidents for my daughter to have. and i would wake up every morning with a terrible headach. i woud tell my sweet wife about my headach and she would say well i am glad you told me that. i could not figure out what she ment by that statement, until i had to go to he e.r.and when i got home she looked at me and said that i deserved to live after what i lived through last night. i asked her what she ment? she said she had been doseing me up fo a while. she told me i shoud have died because she wanted everything i had. my daugter was not home that week end,so she knew nothing about it. later on a week or so later i was  taking my daughter to school and my daughter looked at me an said dad i beleve mom put something in m food last night. i felt sick. this was our daughter. the only child we had. so this can become very dangerous very quickly. sorry for the spelling my keys are sticking.after this i got my daughter out of the siuation. but the whole family was like this. so i think its a learned behavior.
 
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