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Topic : 07/30 A Husband's Shocking Confessions, Part 3

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(Original Air Date: 11/21/07) Dr. Phil continues the dramatic story of a husband’s alarming confessions that have brought a marriage to its knees and rocked a television production. Dr. Phil sits down with Wade and Michelle to go over details of the frightening crimes Wade claims he has committed. He says he has raped and murdered several people, though his memories of certain events are fuzzy. Can Dr. Phil get to the truth? While the police and FBI search for evidence, Dr. Phil asks for details. Did Wade carry out these atrocious crimes, or are they just more lies? And why does he have two memories of the same event, with dramatically different outcomes? Don’t miss the shocking turn of events that no one saw coming! Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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November 20, 2007, 5:30 pm PST

11/21 A Husband's Shocking Confessions, Part 3

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my thoughts, exactly!!!

I felt the same thing about her.
 
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November 20, 2007, 6:58 pm PST

11/21 A Husband's Shocking Confessions, Part 3

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OK...I was at the second taping with my mother and I have to say, I agree that the husband needs help.  I agree that he has an anger issue that needs to be dealt with.  I actually believe that he believes that he has committed a crime somewhere, some place and he might have. 

 

No one makes any comments or statements of his military background.  Being married to ex-military...now law enforcement, daughter of a retired probation officer and surrounded by that type of life style all my life, his behavior with regards to the ex-FBI guy was not suprising.  Anyone who wears a uniform is conditioned to NOT look at individuals as the wife stated as "human".  If they stop just for one moment and "feel" anything, I could mean their life.  FAMILY is all you have when overseas, on the streets, anywhere.  The rest is being honorable and completing your mission and/or job the best one can. I would have to say, I understand both sides because WE are not the one experiencing this situation and it's real easy to sit up there and judge.  I will say that if anyone thought I was a danger especially to my children, I would be anger that someone, anyone would not remove them from my home.  That they would allow the possibility of them getting hurt or worse.  His anger came from a place of protection which is what he did for our country.  That is something that not all of you can say you are willing to do. 

 

This show left me feeling that the wife was looking for a way out and weak.  And as for the husband, now that he is on psych meds and open for critism and judgement...broken.  I think is was sad and pathetic to here that his own father handed him a gun and one bullet, that he feels he's not worthy of being a "man" in his family.

 

I hope Dr. Phil really does get to the bottom of it.  I really hope that both parties can find some peace.  But more than anything, those children (all of them) are protected from harsh comments and learn, experience that there are healthy and happy relationships that can be established.

I definitely want to agree with you. NOBODY knows what kind of situation this truly is because they are not in it themselves. I totally understand the position of anger from many people. It is true that if this man raped and killed anyone he should be held totally accountable for his crimes. However, I don't believe any of us have the right to sit here, not knowing the total story, and call this woman stupid or think that her or her husband are less than us. I believe that everyone makes mistakes. Granted some are WAY bigger than others but the point is is that there is a difference between a remorseful person and a cold-hearted killer. This man might very well be a murderer and a rapist, but I believe that he truly is a remorseful person. If he wasn't sorry for what he had done he would never have even brought up the subject of the rape and murder of these people. I believe that he really does love his wife and childen and that he wanted deeply in his heart to receive the help that he knew he needed in order to save his family. Unfortunately, it is too late. I think we should take this as a warning. If you ever think that you have a problem like this, seek help immediately. You might not think it could ever escalate into something this serious but the truth is that you never know. I hope to God that this woman can receive some peace in her life, not only for herself, but for her kids. I also pray that this man receives the same peace, even if it is behind bars. It seems like they have all been struggling for a very long time and they all deserve better, especially the children.
 
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November 20, 2007, 9:16 pm PST

Something Isn't Adding Up

Something doen't add up.  If Wade actually killed the people that he said he did there would have been bodies.  Is this just another sick game that he is playing?  My heart goes out to his wife.  She doesn't deserve to be married to such a sick man like Wade.  She is brite and intelligent and deserves so much more.  I pray for her sake that she can get out quick.
 
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November 20, 2007, 10:16 pm PST

11/21 A Husband's Shocking Confessions, Part 3

I watched both shows and am curious about part 3.  I have questions about both of these people.  The wife OD's on Ambien, calls her husband who she just got a restraining order against, and tells him about it??? He calls her nonstop when she "disappears" but there was no mention of that before...his constantly checking up on her.  There is waaayyyy more to this story

She cuts herself...he cheats...I feel for their kids.  These 2 are both wackos.
 
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November 20, 2007, 10:22 pm PST

I-35 ,freaky

This is the strangest thing I have ever seen on this show. I saw the shots of I-35 and thought to myself , this guy is driving on the same highway that I do! I'm glad they are in Iowa. though.There is something not on the level with Michelle. I would have packed the kids and left , put as many miles between me and him as possible and then maybe called Dr. Phil second! If I wanted anyone to know where I was! He confessed to rape and murder and you are in the same house and bed as this man, she must be a hell of an actress or crazy too. Their must be part of her that thinks it is a lie, and she is getting sucked into the attention and drama too.The families are being dragged into the scariness ( like Michelle's mom) and Wade's dad gives him a gun! ( NUTS) I thought I had problems, but wow, everything is relative,huh? I hope one or both get the help they need for their kids... they need a sane, stable parent to raise them.  
 
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November 20, 2007, 10:51 pm PST

What about the children??

Why haven't the children been taken by Child Protective Services??? The mother supposedly ensures that they are safe, but then calls the dangerous spouse when she takes too many Ambien??? And she's back at the family house??

 

How can anyone trust her to protect her children when she uses such poor judgement herself???

 

Who is taking care of the children, maybe the same family members who gave the husband a gun??? The husband isn't stupid, there are only so many people she could leave the children with, he can find them.

 

Please Dr. Phil, get those children out of there. If these people aren't conning you, neither one is competent to be in charge of those children.

 
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November 21, 2007, 3:20 am PST

Wierd

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my thoughts, exactly!!!

I'd bet my last dollar that she is addicted to whatever tablets she's been taking and lying about it just as he is addicted to his lying and sex.  Who would let any man have sex with them after he admitted he raped and murdered other women?  Not exactly a turn on for me I'm afraid.
 
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November 21, 2007, 4:29 am PST

Both of them are NUTS!

I seriously am starting to think they are both absolutely crazy.....

Michelle... what the heck are you thinking???  Taking pills that render you unconcious - with four boys left to their own devices???  Continuing to have intimate relations with someone who 'thinks' they might be a serial rapist and killer, and has choked you 3 times???    If you had any brains at all - which I am truly starting to DOUBT.... you would take the help Dr. Phil offered for safe housing, turn your back and be done with this monster you call your husband.  Wake up and stop being so wishy washy!!!!  And show some emotion - show us your human.  I cannot imagine being told the things you were told about your husbands 'alleged' crimes and sitting stone faced.  I am starting to wonder if you guys are a bunch of actors!!!!

 

Wade - you are one very sick puppy.   You need to be committed somewhere for the safety of the general public - you are a menance to society and a waste of skin.  Whether you did or didn't commit those crimes it doesn't matter - to confess to them shows how sick you are.... and to have fantasies that dominate and demean women???   Good riddance -- you loser!

 
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November 21, 2007, 4:30 am PST

You've got to be kidding!

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I have the oddest feeling that this guy is such a showman sociapath that he is just flat out knowingly lying! I also would not be surprised if his wife is cut from the same cloth. My only clue to the possibilty that she is sociapathic also is when she took all those pills and called him.......duh. Be careful Dr Phil they are hoaxing you.

I am surprised at this particular comment.  Have you not seen the look on their faces, the body movements they've had or anything?  Both of them certainly have issues and I don't believe they are trying to fool Dr. Phil.  He can see past lies and he knows when to "dig".  I am, however, questioning the whole pill thing.  She claims she didn't take them, and he claims she was already unconscience by the time he got there.  That's the part of the story that doesn't make sense.  Knowing they are both suicidal, I wouldn't be surprised if she took them herself.

 

Also, you all think it's so easy to get out of a relationship like this, not that I wish this on anyone but, try living it then come back and let us know how easy it was for you to leave.  It's a horrible situation for her to be in, sleeping with one eye open and constantly worrying about yourself and your family.

 
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November 21, 2007, 5:20 am PST

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Dr. Phil,

My first thought was of how this woman could not see this coming.  Then when she was on the show the second day and showed odd signs of her reaction to her husbands confession, I am not sure it is believable.  There is something more to the story on her part, if I had just found out my husband was a possible killer/raper, my composer would be very different than her's was.  Given the fact that she had told him she was done, how is it she was willing to have sex with him and be somewhat engaging.  I think she needs to be looked at for truth in this story as well.  I am not saying that I think he is not horrible and dangerous, I think there is something more about her.  She didn't seem to show a sign of how she wants to keep herself safe and her children.  I would never have gone to the site of the possible murder with him, especially for the safety of my childrens mother.  She seems to engaged to the drama/story.

 
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