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Topic : 07/30 A Husband's Shocking Confessions, Part 3

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(Original Air Date: 11/21/07) Dr. Phil continues the dramatic story of a husband’s alarming confessions that have brought a marriage to its knees and rocked a television production. Dr. Phil sits down with Wade and Michelle to go over details of the frightening crimes Wade claims he has committed. He says he has raped and murdered several people, though his memories of certain events are fuzzy. Can Dr. Phil get to the truth? While the police and FBI search for evidence, Dr. Phil asks for details. Did Wade carry out these atrocious crimes, or are they just more lies? And why does he have two memories of the same event, with dramatically different outcomes? Don’t miss the shocking turn of events that no one saw coming! Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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July 31, 2008, 7:02 am PDT

07/30 A Husband's Shocking Confessions, Part 3

the human mind is much like a computer so to speak, it has been programed by god b4 conception, it runs smooth and pure at birth, as it surfs the web of life it gets a virus=evil, that makes it see and think like a computer acts when it gets a bad bug in it, only way to fix it is to turn to god=programmer,only he can fix it,wade fears lousing his family as he should,he needs to turn to god and away from the filth of porn on the net,if all of this were fabricated as a way to keep his wife,I'm sure when he gets out of prison Dr Phil will have a follow up.[ just a bit of food for thought here ya ll ]
 
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July 31, 2008, 7:30 am PDT

Michelle

I think Michelle is handling all this very well. She said she has had to keep a facade for her children. They have four little boys. I have such compassion for her. I am comforted that Wade finally decided to tell her the truth. I think being on the Dr. Phil show helped that. To think that he agreed to come on the show because he lied about affairs & wanted to save his marriage. Suddenly all these stories came out. He is obvioulsy a man with such a deep rage. I wish he is lying about being a rapist and a murderer. But why would he make up such a horrifc story? The police should be able to trace missing people & get to the truth.
I am breathing easier that Michelle and her children are safe. It is very frightening that the ones we love and think we know as well as we know ourselves can turn out to have inner demons hidden beneath the surface.
 
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July 31, 2008, 8:11 am PDT

what ever happened

I AM LIKE THE OTHERS. THIS SHOW WAS SO DRAMATIC THAT EVEN AFTER THIS LENGTH OF TIME IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW IF A BODY WAS FOUND OR IF THIS GUY JUST MADE THIS UP.  IF HE JUST MADE IT UP, HE IS A REAL MENTAL JOB AND MICHELLE NEEDS TO THINK REALLY HARD ABOUT CONTINUING A LIFE WITH  HIM. 
 
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July 31, 2008, 8:15 am PDT

our returning service people

It is time that we as a people demand that our service people receive proper care when returning from combat. I have thought a lot about Michelle's comment regarding people not loved by her husband as not having human qualities. Isn't that what happens when we train our men and women in the services to kill? Do they really think in terms of killing a mother, father, brother, sister, someone’s grandfather, grandmother? I do not think so. What if the non-human regard is turned on by the military but care is not taken to turn it off? Perhaps we need as a nation to regard with the same respect the difficulties in returning to society as we do their service to this country . Give our service people adequate debriefing, treatment when needed and the support and time to adapt to society again.

 
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July 31, 2008, 8:23 am PDT

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Quote From: alsprink

Wade keeps using the Vietnam war as his excuse for the rape and murder flashbacks/dreams.  To me, he seems far too young to have even been in the Vietnam war. 

I'm curious as to his age.....

I believe that man has never told the truth about any of this.

Dr. Phil,  could this possibly be a huge hoax to make you look bad???

I assumed he was talking about the Gulf War. And I don't believe he's telling the truth either. I don't know that it's a hoax to make DrP look bad. I think that he made up the killing stories, after he failed the lie detector test, to throw Michelle off , and take her mind off the cheating. I think that he never dreamed that Michelle would call the show again and get DrP in on it again. I think he painted himself into a corner and is trying to lie his way out of it. Yes, a far out theory, I know. But, think about it, he can claim PTSD, and by the way, I DO believe there is such a thing, just not in Wade's case. There are no witnesses to come forward and no dead bodies because the whole thing was fabricated to begin with, IMO.
 
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July 31, 2008, 8:25 am PDT

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I truly agree that no one in their right mind would leave a woman and her children with a murderer!  As I stated in my last post, as a society who protects children, the state would have or should have went in and removed them.  If a grown woman needed to get bad advise from an FBI Lie detector administrator, then she too, is unable to care and protect the children.

God, I agree wholeheartedly with your response.  If this were all true, Michelle wouldn't have had a choice to allow Wade around her or the children.  Since she placed the protective order, which you can only immediately do if you feel your life is in grave danger; it wouldn't have been easy to lift.  State authorities step in and can press charges with or without the domestice violence victim's consent.  Many abused, battered women want to drop all charges after a physical confrontation, but the state (OHIO) now presses charges irregardless. There is NO way legal authorities would have or should have used Michelle as bait to see if her husband would confess any new information.  What more do they need than him saying he has raped and murdered people?  He would have been taken into custody and held until evidence proves guilt or innocence.  Dr. Phil used these people to boost his ratings.  If those children or Michelle were truly in danger, they would have been in protective custody, NOT on public television.  I know this was re-aired, but back in November, authorities or family members should have quieted, separated, and protected them!  All of them!  I cannot believe grandparents, or family members have not stepped in to ensure the safety of those boys! Neither parent is mentally stable enough to properly love and care for children, or themselves, at this time.  I would like to know what has ever become of all parties involved, including FBI Jack.  I just pray this was an eye opener to law enforcement officials, and battered women.  Wade, Michelle, and the 4 boys need professional aid.  I hope they all received it, which Dr. Phil already said he would pay for, for them.  I hold them in my prayers.

Concerned from Ohio

 
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July 31, 2008, 8:29 am PDT

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I do not believe Wade murdered or raped anyone.  I believe he thinks he did. I also believe he is suffering from a mental illness.  I think Michelle also has mental probems.  I think she is the attention seeker in the family and is full of it.  I think she is very wishy washy such as when she stated that "Wade was going to go crazy when he couldn't find her". Then she says that she called him when she overdosed..Hello??? Only then to sit on stage on part three and defend Jack's malpractice by saying that "it was more dangerous for her to leave"??? however again it wasn't dangerous for her to call him when she overdosed. Wade went to jail for violating a protection order, when she called him for help. He called 911!

 

I also think Jack is wacked. I can't think of a single reason why he would coach her on sex practices to get information out of him. He says he thought of her as a daughter...hmmmm...so he would coach his daughter on sex practices with a confessed murderer and rapist? I to would be as upset as Wade was if it was my family and kuddos to him for questioning why Jack did not have his wife's and childrens safety as his main concern.

Well, my understanding on the situation with Jack is that, Michelle was trying to make Wade think that everything was O.K., by playing the games, which Michelle knew that Wade would like. Michelle also said that she was not afraid for HER life because Wade had told her that it was different with someone he loved. That he thinks of someone he doesn't love, i.e., a stranger, as nothing worth anything.MICHELLE knows Wade and knows what he likes , SHE was working WITH Jack. They were working TOGETHER to try and gain more information and insight, is what I personally got out of the show.
 
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July 31, 2008, 8:32 am PDT

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Dr. Phil, why have you not given any updates on what's happened with Wade and Michelle since this first aired in November of last year?  This is a horrific story.  What's happened to their children? 
Comments cannnot be made on an on-going investication!! The FBI would have put a gag order on any discussions involving the case. Look at how many women some serial murderers get away with killing before they get caught. It may be a very long time before we hear anything updates.
 
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July 31, 2008, 8:32 am PDT

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Quote From: squeeks01

Being a military family I almost feel let down by people in our country.  Wade may be suffering from a serious condition and most people are quick to judge.  Something traumatic could have happened to him during his childhood and he never dealt with it.  Now as an adult and after being deployed his conditioned has become worse.  PTSD is not something easy to admit to having because of sign of weakness.  He is right in that aspect.  I can relate to him, being in the military and suffering from PTSD is not something that easy to admit, there is a fear of what your fellow members will think.  Will I let them down? Will it harm my career?  Will they see me as weak? Will they think I'm crazy?  My husband has been deployed twice and was on his way for a third time.  I noticed a major change in my husband since he returned from his last deployment.  Long story short we have been struggling with his symptoms of PTSD for a year now and recently my husband was diagnosed with Sever PTSD and his currently being treated by the military.  Thankfully my husband is not as severe as Wade however I think that if we had not reached out for help  things could have gotten worse like and someone could have gotten hurt. 

Wade and wife if you are reading this,

Please get some professional help.  If you love your wife like you say you do dont be afraid of what people are going to say.  YOU have taken the hardest step of admitting you have a problem and asking for help. 

And if something did happen to you during your childhood that makes you hate people.  It 's not your fault!

Let go of the anger and let GOD take control of your life.  He is healer of all and only he can make you a new person.  Believe that if you invite GOD into your life and  to make you a new person he will.  Nothing is impossible with him by our side. 

I will keep you and your family in my prayers!  GOD Bless you!

People lets not be to quick to judge and I recommend AMERICA to get educated on COMBAT PTSD considering how many of our soldiers have had exposure to some type of Traumatic experience. 

GOD BLESS AMERICA!  and lets remember supporting our troops doesn't mean just sending them care packages!  It means being supportive!

And then, on the other hand, Wade just might be a lying, control freak.
 
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July 31, 2008, 9:03 am PDT

Michelle & Wade

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OK...I was at the second taping with my mother and I have to say, I agree that the husband needs help.  I agree that he has an anger issue that needs to be dealt with.  I actually believe that he believes that he has committed a crime somewhere, some place and he might have. 

 

No one makes any comments or statements of his military background.  Being married to ex-military...now law enforcement, daughter of a retired probation officer and surrounded by that type of life style all my life, his behavior with regards to the ex-FBI guy was not suprising.  Anyone who wears a uniform is conditioned to NOT look at individuals as the wife stated as "human".  If they stop just for one moment and "feel" anything, I could mean their life.  FAMILY is all you have when overseas, on the streets, anywhere.  The rest is being honorable and completing your mission and/or job the best one can. I would have to say, I understand both sides because WE are not the one experiencing this situation and it's real easy to sit up there and judge.  I will say that if anyone thought I was a danger especially to my children, I would be anger that someone, anyone would not remove them from my home.  That they would allow the possibility of them getting hurt or worse.  His anger came from a place of protection which is what he did for our country.  That is something that not all of you can say you are willing to do. 

 

This show left me feeling that the wife was looking for a way out and weak.  And as for the husband, now that he is on psych meds and open for critism and judgement...broken.  I think is was sad and pathetic to here that his own father handed him a gun and one bullet, that he feels he's not worthy of being a "man" in his family.

 

I hope Dr. Phil really does get to the bottom of it.  I really hope that both parties can find some peace.  But more than anything, those children (all of them) are protected from harsh comments and learn, experience that there are healthy and happy relationships that can be established.

I agree with you in that  Wade has committed horrible crimes somewhere, someplace.  I understand all what you say about his military background, HOWEVER, he is his own person and needs to take responsibility for what he has done and what he has put his wife through.  He needs help BAD.  I felt sorry for his wife and all what she has been through but at the same time, she needs to get out and get those children AND herself to safety.
 
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