Topic : 11/26 Katherine Returns

In what Islamic countries do Muslim women have these rights?

I bet that there are not many and the ones that do have these rights for women probably have a treaty with the US.

I know for a fact that Iran has several laws against women. We all know that there are several other countries just like Iran.

Its funny how when Dr Phil was defending black people in the episode about Dog the Bounty Hunter everyone was saying how dare he not have someone on the show to defend Dog. Dr Phil only had black guest and so on. Now Dr Phil is being called a racist because he said that it is a good idea for Katherine to be dating an American.

Everyone wants to acuse Dr Phil of being a bigot.

I think it it is a good idea for Katherine to date an American just so she doesn't take off to another country and make her family sick with worry.

Another point:

Those who think Katherine is in the clear from this guy are mistaken. If Abdullah doesn't get a US visa, he can easily get a visa to Canada and enter the US via Canada to stalk her if he likes. Hopefully he won't get a visa, but it won't be hard to get here if he's determined enough.

  IT IS SO SAD WHAT THIS GIRL HAD TO GO THREW .I UNDERSTAND WHY IT TOOK HER SO LONG TO GET BACK IN THE US.YOU CANT JUST UP AND LEAVE SOMEONE LIKE THAT WHEN EVER YOU WONT TO IT HAS TO BE THE RIGHT TIME TO GET AWAY.HE IS CRAZY AND THAT IS THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO KEEP OUT OF US.I FEEL FOR THIS FAMILY AND HOPE THEY CAN GET THERE LIFE BACK TOGETHER AND KEEP THERE EYES OUT FOR THIS CRAZY FAMILY SO SHE DONT GET HURT.I HAVE TWO DAUGHTERS AND I WORRY ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THIS ALL THE TIME HAPPENING TO THEM IT IS SO SAD.

I am very upset at MOST of the postings on these "Daughter In Danger" Message Boards.  Below is a "dose of reality" for a good many of you who have chosen to write messages without knowing, or even attempting to find out what is going on in that part of the world.

I, personally, am THRILLED that Katherine is home. 

Katie Couric on the CBS evening news had a story tonight about what is going on in the Gaza Strip.  ALL the borders have been closed and NO ONE IS PERMITTED TO LEAVE WHO LIVES THERE.   News Anchor Harry Smith discussed the Middle East Summit: “President Bush will assume the role of Middle East Peacemaker when he hosts the Summit tomorrow (Tuesday, November 27, 2007) at the US Naval Academy in Annapolis, Maryland.  Today (Monday, November 26, 2007) he welcomed the key participants to the White House, Israeli President Omert and Palestinian President Abas.  The President hopes a deal can be worked out before he leaves office in 14 months.  It won’t be easy, though, considering Abas does not control Gaza, THE ISLAMIC MILITANT GROUP HAMAS DOES.   Elizabeth Palmer is covering the increasingly dire situation there.”

The following is a transcription of the news report:

Reporter Palmer:  “Usually food distribution comes in the wake of a natural disaster (as shown on the air which looked like the distribution of food in the aftermath of a massive hurricane, earthquake, tornado, massive fire, or in a war zone).  In Gaza POLITICS are to blame.   Day after day more than a million people need aid just to feed themselves.  People here are preoccupied with survival at the moment.  Every family in Gaza is touched by a crisis.  Like it or not they are also ruled by the Islamist forces of Hamas which took over Gaza in June.  To put pressure on Hamas and to retaliate for rockets fired from Gaza into Israel, the Israeli Government has sealed Gaza Shut.”  She goes on to talk about the Gaza’s main freight route into Israel and how the road “would normally be bumper to bumper with heavily laden trucks, but it is completely closed as is every other border crossing in the Country.  Nothing is coming into Gaza and nothing is getting out.  Not even goods the rest of the world wants...like these carnations (picture of the fields) grown for the European Flower Market but destined to end up dead and rotting in the fields.  ALL OF GAZA’S MAIN BUSINESSES HAVE SHUT DOWN.  For 25 years Mohamed Balal’s Juice Factory hummed along, two-dozen Palestinian workers keeping the assembly line moving.  But a few weeks ago Balal had to let all of his workers go.  A move he worries might help the extremists.”  Mr. Balal: “All of these people who had to stop work, they might become violent as a result.”  Reporter Palmer:  “Nasim Alsawalma was thrilled to be accepted to study engineering in Canada this fall and then crushed to find out he wasn’t going to be ALLOWED to leave Gaza.”  Nasim Alsawalma:  “Not all Gaza is Hamas.  All Gaza is people – human - want to live, want to study, want to work.” Reporter Palmer: “Instead they are locked in to a Country that has become a ‘prison’ trapped between Israel and the Sea.”  Elizabeth Palmer, CBS News, Gaza –

This is just ONE of the latest reports on the news.  Katherine WAS in danger of not being able to leave the Gaza Strip.  When you arrive in Jordon and proceed to the Gaza Strip your Passport is usually confiscated and you are not permitted to leave.  I truly believe the only reason that Katherine was permitted to leave was because of all the publicity on the Dr. Phil Show.  You have to remember all the people from the Dr. Phil Show that were working to get her back here.  Had she been denied permission to leave, or held back for any reason, it would have created an international event due to the nature of the situation. 

So I wish everyone would stop being so ignorant and posting these idiotic statements that have absolutely no clue what they are talking about.  The situation over in the Middle East is very grave and even though the area that Katherine was in may not have been as depressed as what was shown on the news, it does not change the fact that the Gaza Strip is RULED BY HAMAS.  WHY DO YOU THINK THAT ABDULLAH WAS NOT EVEN TRYING TO GET A PASSPORT?  HE KNEW THAT HE WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED TO LEAVE GAZA!!!  It was all lies and manipulation on the part of Abdullah and his family to get Katherine to stay there.  Even some of the Islamic people who have posted messages on this board have admitted that once you marry someone from Jordon, Palestine or Gaza that everything changes, from the way the woman is permitted to dress to what the woman is permitted to say.

So Katherine, be thankful that you were able to get out while you could.  Even though there are some very sick people in America, it is STILL THE LAND OF THE FREE.  That is why you were able to leave here of your own free will.  Had you decided to stay with Abdullah in Gaza your life would have changed drastically once you married and then you would NOT be able to get out.  You family had every reason to be concerned.  The states of affairs in the world today are not to be taken lightly.  There are MANY places Americans should not be going these days, ESPECIALLY GAZA.  I do agree that America needs to be "cleaned up" also, but at least we are not restricted from coming and going as we please and we do have "free will"

I really do not think that Dr. Phil meant the “new boyfriend” comment to be anything more than to point out to Katherine that she could find someone just as easily here in the United States as she could anywhere else, but she is safer being near family and loved ones.

I stated in my post on one of the other “Daughter In Danger” message boards that I know someone who lives not far from the border and there are constantly Air Aid Sirens” going off numerous times throughout the day, on the average of every hour.  When they here the sirens, they stand in a doorway to protect themselves because they never know how close the attacks are getting – and he lives in a GOOD neighborhood and he and his wife both work.  But the say that it is very frightening and they never know what is going to happen.

So Katherine, welcome home!  It sounds like you are beginning to grow up and mature into a woman who will eventually become very responsible, but you are still young and don’t know it all.  Leave the major decisions to your family who loves you and wants to see you be safe and happy.

 When our eldest daughter was 22-years-old, a boy who was known to her only for 4 months had come to our neighborhood and taken her to his house to keep her with him, against our wishes.  She was already above 21 years old and we had no rights. 

Our daughter was raised like a princess, providing her with her family's love,care, the best education and necessities.  However, the boy's family and the boy had brain-washed her and allured her to leave us.  Our daughter blindly fell into the trap.  The boy had cried and told her that he was ashamed of his family and he had a reason to live now as she was in his life.  He also had made her promise that she would not tell us any details about his family.  As soon as he took our daughter from us, he had put a ring on her finger saying that they were engaged.  This prevented any other boys getting interested in our daughter.

It had taken some time for our daughter to notice that the boy's mother had Autism. The boy had hid that fact from her and had asked her not to tell us any details about his family.  When I called his house to talk to my daughter, several times, his father came to the phone and yelled at me saying that my daughter didn't love me and she hated me.  Another time, when I called, the boy came to the phone and yelled at me with filthy language saying, 'I'll f*** you and kick your ass'.  Later, he said that he didn't know that it was me who was on the phone when he said that.  But, it demonstrated what kind of language he used on people.  I did not raise my own children to use any bad words even towards an enemy.  Anyway, he has been very arrogant and disrespectful towards me all the time. 

This boy had quit going to school, after high school.  My daughter said that he was very ambitious.  Yes, he has been ambitious to get things done in the easy way.  He and his family knew that my husband is a physicianand they thought that they would benefit from this.  Our daughter was an undergraduate, when this happened to her.  Until then, she was far ahead of her peers in school.  But, after this incident, she took 10 years to get her Bachelor's degree.  With our guidance and her hard work, she entered dental school and she will be passing out next year, in 2008. But, she has given up her family while having ties with him.  It hurts to think how our own flesh and blood could go against us and join a stranger whom she had got to know only for 4 months.

Our daughter told me that the boy had taken a baseball bat to beat up another boy who was dating his sister, one day.  I have noticed that our daughter is quite afraid of him.  One day, she cried saying, 'How hard I worked for this relationship?  How many times I have thrown this ring on the floor?'  When I mentioned this to the boy, he told me to ask my daughter why did she keep on picking up the ring and wearing again in her finger each time she threw it on the floor. Then, he said that there is a secret that my daughter has never told me and that is the reason she puts the ring back in her finger.  I think he was trying to tell me that there is a reason that she cannot give him up. (She may have lost her virginity from him.)  In that case, his words demonstrated how he had manipulated everything to his benefit putting our daughter in the current situation.  I did not ask him or my daughter what the secret was because I believe that there should not be any reason that would trap her life with a ring.  

At one point, I thought that I should accept him to our family.  I let him come into my house.  He came in and started bossing me around. Once, I invited him to join us to go out for dinner in celebrating our daughter's birthday.  He said that I should have given him more notice.  Three days notice was not enough for him.  I said that if itis important enough for him, he would somehow find a way to join us.   He was very arrogant and rude.  Also, he did not pay attention when I told him that we should meet his family.  When I brought it up, he said that the reason why he didn't care about it was because he did not trust me with his mother.  He said that his mother was simple-minded and denied that she had Autism. 

Finally, I told him that if he could not trust me with his mother, he and I had no business with each other.

I believe it is very wrong and unfair for this boy to trap our daughter by tricking and deceiving her about his background.  When our daughter wasstudying hard for the Dental school Admission Test, he was playing golf.  He had taken $11,000 from my daughter’s financial aid when she was in college.  Now, he is waiting to marry her after she graduates.  My only hope is that our daughter would get a strong backbone to escape from this disaster as soon as possible.

Currently, our daughter is keeping away from us.  She lives in the campus.  His family and he have trapped her and their influence keeps her away from us.  I have been crying with pain for many years.  I just hope that time will provide an answer to this soon, by making our daughter brave and strong to act as a grown up adult to face the boy and resolve the matter.