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Topic : 06/24 Banned from the Wedding, Part 2

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(Original Air Date: 11/27/07) Dr. Phil follows up with a family torn apart when the mother was banned from her only son’s wedding. The bride-to-be, Michelle, said she’d rather burn in hell than let her future mother-in-law, Jane, attend the ceremony, and her fiancé, Jay, stood behind her decision. This sent the entire family into a tailspin, with the best man resigning, the aunt disowning the groom and the wedding planner on alert to call 911 if Jane showed up. The big day has come and gone, and everyone returns to update Dr. Phil with the latest. Were they able to bury the hatchet before the wedding? Jane has gone through a rollercoaster of emotions, and Dr. Phil finds out what has her so mad at him, she even wrote him a scathing letter one week after her appearance. Has Jane done a 180-degree turn since? Has Michelle stopped her “campaign of hate mail” as Jane called it and opened up her arms to her husband’s mother? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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June 24, 2008, 3:27 pm PDT

Update sometime next season please!

Please update next season.  I feel so sad for these people.  All of them behaved very childishly. And yet, only Jane has to apologize and follow rules.  I just hope Jay and Michelle don't have children for many years.  He is only 22 and she is probably younger.  They need to grow up alot before any children are brought into this situation.  And Karma is a real B!
 
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June 24, 2008, 3:28 pm PDT

I can relate

First off I have brother that has chosen, along with his wife not to speak to my mom.The reasons are selfish and we have tried to fix things.  My mom not only doesn't see her son but has 3 grandchilrdren that she has no realtionship with.  She became so distraught over this that about 10 years ago she tried to commit suicide.  My brother came to see her in the hospital and upon my Moms recovery an appointment was made for them to meet with a counselor/mediator.   He had some lame excuse and never showed up, hence there is no longer a relationship.
Also, my in-laws chose not to come to my wedding.  My husband felt that we should have nothing to do with them.  I told him that you don't know what the future holds and he should still maintain a relationship with them, all I asked was that they treat me with the same respect I showed them.  Well needless to say, we have been married for 25 years and I have a great realationship with my mother in law and my father in law before he passed away.
Here's how I feel...life is too short and requires too much energy to hold a grudge and to try to remeber who said or did what.  And Dr. Phil siad it all...what goes around comes around.  This young bride does not have children but probably will one day and she could very well get the same treatment from her child.  I think she is controlling.  In my brothers case part of the reason he doesn't see my mom or take the kids to see her is his wife.  Well she can stay home, I think my brother should have been a man and said this is my mom and I'm going to see her.  Look, nobody is perfect and we all have differences, we do the best can as parents.  Grow up and move forward!
 
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June 24, 2008, 3:29 pm PDT

06/24 Banned from the Wedding, Part 2

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I am watching the rerun of part 2  I am a mom, was a mom-in-law, am daughter, was a daughter-in-law.  I have walked all of those roles, including Jay's -- my parents not only did not approve of my first husband, they banned him AND our child from their home.  Be that as it may, my first and continued impression of Michelle is that she is a spoiled brat!  She should have been on Bridezillas, not Dr. Phil.  The world does not rotate around her just because she's a bride.  She is mean, ungracious and controlling.  I feel for her husband -- he is in for a really bad ride.  The emotions Michelle has turned on Jane will be turned on him in the not-too-distant future.  I don't feel bad for Jane, in that she could have behaved better. But she showed a remarkable humility by being willing to go on national television and be publicly reviled by her son and his wife.  Everytime anyone said something critical of Michelle, all she did was come back with more crticism.  She just doesn't get it -- Copernicus already proved that the earth rotates around the sun, NOT around her.  She needs to get over herself and learn some humility.  If she doesn't learn it now, she will learn it later -- and in a much more painful manner.  'nuff said!
I also have just watched the Rerun of Part 2.  I agree with you that Michelle should have been on Bridezillas - rather than Dr. Phil.  She didn't want help from Dr. Phil.  She wanted to go on national television and paint her mother-in-law as some kind of psycho ... but I think that backfired on her.  Despite some postings here that say Dr. Phil didn't "get it" ... I think he did.  How about all those pictures of Michelle rolling her eyes ?  I don't agree with you - however - in feeling sorry for the son/husband.  He is such a spineless creature !  He and Michelle made such idiots of themselves on this show.  They deserve each other.  Mom should walk away -- I wish her well.  I don't believe her son/daughter-in-law want to make any attempt at a reconciliation.  Shame on them !!! ............ I'm not clear on whether or not Jane has other children.  I get the sense this is her only child.  That's really too bad ... He will come to realize a mother's love is unconditional and will come back to Mom when he realizes Michelle is the one who is psycho.  Life is short.  I hope this happens before it's too late.
 
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June 24, 2008, 3:29 pm PDT

Forgiveness is a blessing

I was very sad to see what was going on in this family.  Unfortunately we can sometimes get super righteous.  We all make mistakes over and over.  However forgiveness is golden.  It blesses you more than it blesses the one you forgive.  What if God said you have said you are sorry over and over and you still have done the same thing so I'm done with you.  Many of us would be doomed. 

 

I think all three adults have to take responsibility for their actions.  I will not take sides because wrong is wrong regardless of who has done it. 

 

I can understand the mother wanting to make things right.  Maybe now she realizes that not only will she lose her son but quite possibly never have a relationship with any grandchildren they have.  I pray that she is true and is striving to change not for an alternative motive but because it is the right thing to do.

 

I understand the daughter-in-law and the son's point of view and even their hesitation in believing that mom is trying to change.  However, they should at least give her another try.  Forgive and start new.  If she then shows she was deceitful then they will have to step away from the relationship.  Even in forgiveness you still have a right to say I forgive you but I can no longer allow you to hurt me so I'm going to have to step away.  Especially when a situation causes you to step outside of your character.

 

There is no good in constantly going back rehashing or reliving the wrong that was done in the past. 

 

This relationship will not get better over night but with forgiveness, love, and respect for one another it can grow into wonderful relationship.

 

Tomorrow is promised to no one. 

 

I will continue to pray that there will be some sort of peace to come out of this and that all three can move on without all the anger and resentment.

 
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June 24, 2008, 3:31 pm PDT

Disgusted

This girl, the bride, is so immature and self centered.  At some point she needs to grow up, and the son also.  She needs to take responsibility for her part in this situation.  No one is completely innocent.  It is time to step up and grow up.  Realize that this is family and that you need to forgive and move on and trust again, if you never do that then you may as well hide in a cave somewhere and never come out.
 
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June 24, 2008, 3:31 pm PDT

06/24 Banned from the Wedding, Part 2

I think Jane needs to step away from this couple and let them come to her in the future. In the mean time, she should fill her time with volunteer work, hobbies, other family and friends, travel, reading. When Michelle writes a nasty email, Jane should delete it without even opening it. If she gets ugly telephone calls and messages either don't answer or immediately delete them.

Michelle only engages her because Jane allows it - it gives Michelle a "high" of feeling in power. I guarantee Jane that if she moves on with her own life and fulfills it in other ways, Michelle and Jay will come crawling back with their tails tucked between their legs.

I can understand that not everyone loves their m-i-l and personalities clash; however, no one has ever been accused of being too graceful or too polite.

The loser in all this will be Jay. Michelle will soon tire of being able to control him so easily and will move on to another man, and the pattern will repeat itself. Hasn't she been married before anyway? Jay will end up alone without his family or his wife unless he gets a backbone.

If the best man, cousin, mother and other family/friends refused to come to my wedding, that would be a GIANT RED FLAG!
 
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June 24, 2008, 3:33 pm PDT

06/24 Banned from the Wedding, Part 2

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How very sad that Michelle does not see that she is the real problem.  I think she is jealous of her mother in law........she appears to be very self centered and insecure.  Jay needs to remember his mother gave him life, and a mother's love will never die.  He will regret it one day if he does not move forward with his relationship with his mom.  Michelle, I will pray that God saves a place for you in heaven, cuz if not..........I know where you will be.

My mother died at age 51, when I was 28 and my four kids were all under the age of 9.  I miss her every day, and no matter what I would cherish more time with her.

I think it was a terrible thing that Jay and Michelle did, by not allowing her to be at the wedding.  She is the reason Jay is here on this earth. Michelle, how very selfish of you...............may God forgive you.  What you did was very hateful, and hate brings on misery.

Do you enjoy being this way???

Enough said, as this whole situation makes me very sad.

I couldn't agree more.  I had her pegged as a trouble maker as soon as I saw her face.  Yes - a persons character does show  on their face.  The son has no guts. I raised 3 sons and they certainly wouldn't disrespect me the way he has done his mother.  I doubt very much the marriage will last anyway.
 
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June 24, 2008, 3:33 pm PDT

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Ok, this is bothering me.

I want to know why they aren't showing Jay's face on the episode. What does he do and why is it so confidential that they must hide his face?
I ALWAYS wondered that too! I posted that same question last season when this first aired. Some suggested he may be an air marshal or in law enforcement, but it always bothered me a lot that he got to hide and everyone else was out there in the open.
 
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June 24, 2008, 3:33 pm PDT

Spoiled Rotten Brat

I just finished watching the show and I have to say that it actually made my skin crawl to listen to Michelle.  What was worse though, was the fact that Jay sat back and allowed this to happen.  Michelle talks about how she was so angry that her mother-in-law sent a dozen roses to her house before the wedding.  GROW UP you spoiled rotten brat!!  Take a step back and think of how you would feel if the shoes were on the other foot Michelle.  How would it make you feel to have a son who married someone that cut you completely out of their lives????  THIS IS HER SON!!!!!!!!  She was in his life way before you and hopefully she'll be able to forgive him and be back in his life long after your gone.  You are spoiled, hateful and just plain evil to do the things you are doing to this family!!  All I can say to you Jay is shame on you.  You actually came off looking worse on the show than anyone.  You are that afraid of your wife that you turn your back on your own mother.  It's obvious she loves you tremendously, or she would have just written you out of her life by now.  I feel sorry for her.  At least she's making an effort.  I can't believe the two of you actually made a checklist of things she has to do before you allow her back in your life.  I couldn't even finish watching the show because the two of you are so ridiculous.  Dr. Phil is so on target.  KARMA will come back to bite you someday.

 

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June 24, 2008, 3:34 pm PDT

The young woman has no idea - does she?

And how come no one who loves her is stepping up and telling her she's showing her ugly side? What good is a husband if they can't tell you you have a booger hanging off fo the end or your nose? Is he afraid she'll turn that nasty little mouth on him?
 
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