Topic : 06/24 Banned from the Wedding, Part 2

THIS  BRIDE WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND THIS MOTHER,S FEELING  UNTIL  SHE IS A MOTHER,  AND I HOPE  SHE  WILL GET HER PAY  BACK  WHEN THAT  TIME  COMES.  I  THINK  THE SON IS A WHIMP,,,  BECAUSE HE IS LETTING HIS NEW  WIFE CONTROLL HIS  FEELINGS  TOWARD HIS MOTHER.  HIS MOTHER WILL BE THERE FOR HIM AS LONG  AS SHE IS BREATHING!!!!  WILL THIS NEW  GRUDGE HOLDING  WIFE??????  SON  YOUR MOTHER  HAS SPENT THE BEST YEARS OF  HER LIFE RAISING YOU,  SO IF  SHE MAKES A FEW MISTAKES,,,,,,GET OVER IT  YOU OWE  HER THAT  MUCH. SHE  WILL LOVE  YOU NO MATTER WHAT  YOU  DO......  AS JUDGEMENTAL AS  YOUR "WIFE" IS  YOU,D BETTER TOE  THE LINE  GOOD LUCK YOU,RE  GONNA NEED IT!!!!

Who does Michelle think she is? It wasn't enough to keep Jane from her wedding, or to imply something sick and inappropriate in Jane's perfectly normal love for her son, but now Michelle's sitting on her high-horse demanding apologies. She won't be happy until Jane gets on the floor and grovels at her feet.

There's something so ugly and backwards about this. At this point in a marriage the young bride is usually trying very hard to please her husband's mother. Michelle should be showing respect for the older woman yet there she sits telling her mother-in-law that her apologies aren't good enough and, "Jane needs to" do this and "Jane needs to" do that.
Whoa girl! It's not your place to tell an older person what she needs to do.

I don't think this couple deserves Jane. I know it would be hard to walk away from a son you've spent 20 years raising but I think that's the only way for now. We all get married in a fever and within a few years the fire usually goes out. In good marriages there is true love and affection on the other side of that burning passion, but those things require mature, giving people. I think Jane's son will want to re-new his relationship with his mother in a few years, but for now Jane is best off keeping her distance. At this point Michelle only wants to win points and make Jane look bad. No matter how much Jane changes, Michelle will keep bringing up the past and claiming that Jane didn't admit how wrong she was.

I hope Jane lets it all go for awhile.

Comeon, this kewpie doll bride is a B!!! she will make sure her hubby has no relationship withhis mother. Look, she already got his best man away from him, surely she will work til the groom has noone but her. She is jealous, manipulative, possesive.and the groom? spineless wimp. he is so under this little goldilocks thumb Im surprised he is able to sit on stage without her propping him up. she certainly pulls his strings. Mom should walk away. thisbride B will rule forever. she will always pick a fight and when they have kids, look out!!

 

 

I can't believe the way Jane's son treated her.  I have 4 sons, who are married and my sons only treat me with love and respect.  They would never allow their wifies to say I could not come to their wedding.  John needs to remember how his mother treated him while he was growing up and if he loved her or not. 

 

You know 50% of marriage fail and he may not make it but Jane will always be his mother.  I don't always say the right thing or do the right thing with my sons wifes' but my sons know I love them and they love me and always look past it.  But of course my sons are married to more mature women who would never treat me in such a disgraceful way. 

 

John you need to grow up also and look at all sides of the issue.  Your wife is very immature and you also need to behave like a man and tell her so.,  I really think you are the problem for allowing your wife to behave in such a disgraceful way.  Not inviting your mother to your wedding will always me very hurtful and can never be taken back.

 

Your wifes mother needs to also look at the way her daughter treats people as she can do the same thing to her own mother.  She raised a very immature daughter with little compassion for others.

 

Missy

 I feel that the mother is making an effort but I see nothing from the son and his wife. I think there were things done and said on both sides and no one is far from blame but when are they going to be accountable for what they have done. For crying out loud the mother has to beg & kiss their feet just for them to say " we will see when and if you have begged enough for our  forgiveness"  Sometimes you just have to walk away and wait it out. If I were the mother I would keep counseling and work on myself. Good luck and best wishes for you all.

I watched my brother make the same mistake in the begining of his marriage and it only continued throughout his marriage with a woman who alienated him from family and friends.   Now all the evil that I saw in my sister-in-law has had time to grow and get even more evil and she has turned it all on him and his life is totally ruinned and so are the lives of his kids.

 

Jay, you are being emasculated.  Just remember the idea you are reinforcing in the mind of your young bride.  The idea that she can be upset with anyone and unwilling to forgive and you have to pay the price for that.  You are also basically showing how much you value your relationship with family (not at all) and how little you appreciate the sacrifices made by your family for you.  You are wrong, Jay.

 

Jay, the Bible says if you ignore the wisdom of your parents you will destroy your life.  Your mom tried to give you wisdom, you punished her for it and you are ruinning your life, not hers.  I guess all those family members are wrong and only the little bride is right?  Hahahahaha...that's what my brohter thought.  Whose mopping up my brother's messy life now?  His family, the one he turned his back on to please his controlling wife.

 

This is just a rerun of my brother's screwed up life with different characters.

 

I bet that your little blonde bride sits on the bed and cries until you do whatever it is she wants to keep her pretty little self happy.  I bet you jump through hoop after hoop to keep her happy.  You will go in debt, lower your standards and turn your back on friends and family for her.   I bet she will bite you back so hard with more venom than you've seen yet in your future.  Mark my words it will happen.  I see my sister-in-law in her all over.  She's evil and you are doomed!  You better hope you don't plant seed with her or you are so doomed.

 

I think this girl's mom is not helpful either.  Why does she want to stir the pot and say things like it is just a manipulation.  Jane really held her tongue on this show and even her mannerisms were different.  She knows what she can control and what she cannot.  She is trying.  Her new daughter-in-laws unbending fury at her is just proof of poor character and her mother should be ashamed of her and not pointing the finger at Jane.

 

Where is Jay's dad?  Where is bridezilla's dad?  I can't believe they didn't let her go to the wedding.  Well, now they can be sure she won't support the union b/c she isn't technically part of the covenant! 

 

 Dr. Phil must not of shown everything because the way he was attacking the MIL so heavily I didn't understand why he was being so hard on her.  I believe that if the DIL talks like a B#$%* and walks like a B#$%* than shes a B#$%*.  Whats up with the sons face being blurred out?  The DIL is very insecure because she is searching for a father for her child.  Why didn't Dr. Phil ever bring that point up?  Seriously, the way the DIL was sitting there with the facial expressions and rolling of her eyes was making me ill.  I do feel that the MIL was acting childish with the name calling but I think we are all guilty of doing that a time or two when confronted by someone like the DIL.  I would bet anything that the DIL is the sons first real sexual experience, he went from moms breast to blondies bed.

They need to grow up.  All of them!

I am SO disappointed in Dr Phil.  I don't understand why he doesn't see it...

Jane clearly has Borderline Personality Disorder. 

I have read numerous books about this disorder and members of my own family have it. Upon watching the show the first time, it immediately became obvious to me that Jane had BPD.

I am in no way excusing Michelle's behavior, but her actions are understandable considering the circumstances.  Michelle needs help putting up healthy boundaries and Jane needs to see a psychologist.

Are you kidding me... I read some of the Messages that were left. I totally agree with the lady who said, "it was always "we" not I "  What's wrong with Jay? I think that "boy" needs to grow some balls, and realize that all might be right in the happy honeymoon suite for now... but if this "girl /child" has treating his mother like this ... his turn is next, Michelle seems to already have him by the "pubs" and is steering him her way. 

   The first thing that set me off, was MICHELLE threw away the flowers, not Jay.... this was his mother, and the flowers were mainly a "peace" offering for him. Michelle had NO right to throw away those flowers even if they were addressed to both of them. And in such a immature way, "I cut them up, and threw them in the trash" Where was Jay when this little brat was doing this?

  I'm also wondering why Jay couldn't show his face... does he have such a high profile job that it would/could harm him in someway? If so... Most of those jobs require support of some kind, either money for college, or personal support... hmmm wonder if mom was there during that time. Good bet she was.

  Then you have the girl/child's mama sitting there looking like  I don't know what's wrong with Jay's mom, my precious princess has done all that is right to fix this, we all have.  This of course was while she was glaring at  Jay's mom.

  It all comes down to Jay taking the lead, it's his family... and his wife. If Michelle can't deal then leave her home, but ALWAYS go see your mother, and for heaven's sake, if kids are in the future, DON'T  keep them away from their Grandma.

This episode really made me angry.  Except for the last two minutes of the show, Dr. Phil did not nearly come down on Michelle and Jay as hard as he should have. It takes two to tango, and I think it is incorrect to spotlight Jane as the instigator in this situation.  Michelle has shown herself to be a bitter person who has completely missed the big picture.  It was never really made clear what horrific act Jane comitted to alienate Michelle, but Michelle has demonstrated extreme, abnormal and bizarre reactions to her behavior.  Who bads mouth their future mother-in-law on the web?  Who cuts up flowers sent to one's house?  Until Michelle grows up, I don't think there is any way Jane will be able to resolve her relationship with her son and his new wife.