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Topic : 06/24 Banned from the Wedding, Part 2

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(Original Air Date: 11/27/07) Dr. Phil follows up with a family torn apart when the mother was banned from her only son’s wedding. The bride-to-be, Michelle, said she’d rather burn in hell than let her future mother-in-law, Jane, attend the ceremony, and her fiancé, Jay, stood behind her decision. This sent the entire family into a tailspin, with the best man resigning, the aunt disowning the groom and the wedding planner on alert to call 911 if Jane showed up. The big day has come and gone, and everyone returns to update Dr. Phil with the latest. Were they able to bury the hatchet before the wedding? Jane has gone through a rollercoaster of emotions, and Dr. Phil finds out what has her so mad at him, she even wrote him a scathing letter one week after her appearance. Has Jane done a 180-degree turn since? Has Michelle stopped her “campaign of hate mail” as Jane called it and opened up her arms to her husband’s mother? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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November 27, 2007, 3:24 pm PST

11/27 Banned from the Wedding, Part 2

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Jay and Michelle and even Jane --- If you are reading this,  I think you need to realize that most of these comments are being left by mothers who are putting themselves in Jane's position...  Not realizing that they may or may not be as possessive and domineering as Jane is.  So take these comments with a HUGE grain of salt.  

Those of us who have had  MILs like Jane can understand your situation and not be so JUDGMENTAL.

I am a mother of two sons and I had a mother in law alot worse than Ms. Jane and I never treated her the way this son  & DIL are treating Jane, and I never woud.  I have a thing called morals and respect for my husband whom I have been married to 30 years and disrepecting his Mother would be disrespecing him. No matter how I was treated.  And in turn he would not disrepect my parents.

 
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November 27, 2007, 3:25 pm PST

LOST MY MOM...I'D GIVE ANYTHING TO HAVE HER BACK

I am sitting here wiping the tears away from this story.  I really believe the bride and groom both are totally out of line on this one.  To be banned from her only son's wedding???  Give me a break.  Where is this girl's conscious???  How can the groom live with himself????  I was always taught that you are to treat your elders with respect, you may not always agree with them, but you treat them with respect.  What has happened to that in this country with our younger generation...That bride sat up there with a smirk on her face as if she wasn't a bit interested in what the mother-in-law had to say, but yet mother in law was trying the best she knew how.  Change for us all is not easy.  Welcoming another into our family is not always easy.  For some it may be easier, but it definitely is a challenge for this family.  Work with the tools you have.  Find one good thing to like about each other.  Bride's mom--how would you feel if you were the one banned for something you said or did, but yet you sit up there like your poor daughter has been abused in some way.  She's a spoiled brat. I recently lost my mom to cancer.  And I see you arguing about this and I'm just riled....one day you will regret.  Dr. Phil, you're right what goes around comes around eventually....I can see in Jane's case, it'll take everything she's got to stay focused on giving this little flamingo everything she wants when she wants it.

 
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November 27, 2007, 3:25 pm PST

You can relax about that one

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I hope the husband/son (who because of his job isn't shown) is not in a position of power or trusted with the safety of others.  Dr. Phil said it best that he wouldn't want them on a jury. How can an grown man be so whipped by a Barbie Doll.  My 80 year old father has an expression for girls like Michelle.  Its like Jay is brainwashed.  He finds it almost impossible to say the word "I".  I actually watched the show twice today. He only said I when Dr. Phil corrected him.   I do feel Dr. Phil dropped the ball on this one.  Why didn't he speak with Jay alone?  Did Michelle not allow it?  Tell Michelle beauty fades...  I have a great relationship with my only (22 year old) son, but this show scared me to think there are people like Michelle out there that could do to me what Michelle did to Jay's mom.

  

    Your son would have to have to had over his body parts to the most hateful person he has ever known, watch her place them in the blender, and give them a thorough grinding.  There aren't many women that meet these requirements.

 
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November 27, 2007, 3:25 pm PST

11/27 Banned from the Wedding, Part 2

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If you step back just a little it's easy to see that the gentleman in this show has married a woman EXACTLY  like his mother.  She's spiteful and cruel and never will let go of the axes she's grinding over all the past troubles.  I think she wants the man all to herself as badly as the mother did.  In a tug of war the one who gets hurt is the son and he'll come to resent his wife as much as he did his mother in the past.  Michelle's behavior is petty and immature.  How about a show five years from now to know how long they stayed together and, if they part, how horribly she treats her husband.  Seems like once Michelle has something against you there's no fixing it....you're the enemy for life.
I thin you are correct in your assessment.  I have thought all along since the first show that he went from one insecure, controlling woman to another.  They both have a need to have full possession of him because of their own personal insecurities and fears.
 
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November 27, 2007, 3:26 pm PST

11/27 Banned from the Wedding, Part 2

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Jay and Michelle and even Jane --- If you are reading this,  I think you need to realize that most of these comments are being left by mothers who are putting themselves in Jane's position...  Not realizing that they may or may not be as possessive and domineering as Jane is.  So take these comments with a HUGE grain of salt.  

Those of us who have had  MILs like Jane can understand your situation and not be so JUDGMENTAL.

I am a mother of two sons and I had a mother in law alot worse than Ms. Jane and I never treated her the way this son  & DIL are treating Jane, and I never woud.  I have a thing called morals and respect for my husband whom I have been married to 30 years and disrepecting his Mother would be disrespecing him. No matter how I was treated.  And in turn he would not disrepect my parents.

 
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November 27, 2007, 3:26 pm PST

11/27 Banned from the Wedding, Part 2

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Jay and Michelle and even Jane --- If you are reading this,  I think you need to realize that most of these comments are being left by mothers who are putting themselves in Jane's position...  Not realizing that they may or may not be as possessive and domineering as Jane is.  So take these comments with a HUGE grain of salt.  

Those of us who have had  MILs like Jane can understand your situation and not be so JUDGMENTAL.

I am a mother of two sons and I had a mother in law alot worse than Ms. Jane and I never treated her the way this son  & DIL are treating Jane, and I never woud.  I have a thing called morals and respect for my husband whom I have been married to 30 years and disrepecting his Mother would be disrespecing him. No matter how I was treated.  And in turn he would not disrepect my parents.

 
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November 27, 2007, 3:27 pm PST

Moms

I just recently lost my 21 year old son in a tragic work related accident.  He was my only child.  To see a mother and her son in this type of turmoil saddens me.  We are never promised tomorrow.  There is no greater asset than family.

 
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November 27, 2007, 3:27 pm PST

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I must say I am quite impressed with Jane's behavior today. Her demeanor from the last show to today's is night and day. I was not in the least bit impressed with her last time. I thought she was rude and crass, with an "in your face" attitude. I felt bad for the son and Michelle, and thought that Jane was a bitter, hateful, and altogether miserable person.

 

Today, I was really impressed with her progress. She didn't interrupt even one time, she kept her emotions in check, and her demeanor was so calm. What a turnaround she has made. It is obvious she is making more than a concerted effort to make the necessary changes. This time Michelle acted like a petulant brat, I don't think she nor Jay have availed themselvs to the tools Dr. Phil provided them.

 

I definitely think Jay should reach out to his mother, and I think that the rest of the family should stay out of it.

 
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November 27, 2007, 3:27 pm PST

Wives, there could be many, but there will only be one mother

Michelle needs to grow up = first step is forgiveness. Dr. Phil was on the soft side today, but I do agree with at least one thing he said: what goes around comes around.  Karma will eventually open Michelle and Jay's eyes.  Jay should stand on this issue like a man and acknowledge the different roles these two women play in his life, love them both and stop this nonsense.  The mother has many accusations against her, but she is making an effort to change and have a relationship with her son and wife.  She looked much more at peace during today's show.  I hope she continues to deal with her issues but ultimately finds spiritual contentement, with or without Michelle and Jay. 
 
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November 27, 2007, 3:27 pm PST

11/27 Banned from the Wedding, Part 2

I can honestly say that I have never seen Dr. Phil quite so off the mark as he was on these shows. He gives lip service to support of the mother and gives this couple a complete pass on their own behvavior. Taking them to task for a lack of "graciousness" is a pitiful poor excuse for holding them accountable for their own behavior.

 

Michelle does not want reconcilliation with her mother-in-law, and her verbal and nonverbal communication reveal that to even the most casual of observers.  She wants to "win' and she intends to keep the wedge between mother and son indefinitely. 

 

Her (own) mother is just as guilty as she is.

Someday she will have children of her own, possibly sons.  She may live to regret her spoiled and childish behavior.

 

 

 
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