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Topic : 06/24 Banned from the Wedding, Part 2

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(Original Air Date: 11/27/07) Dr. Phil follows up with a family torn apart when the mother was banned from her only son’s wedding. The bride-to-be, Michelle, said she’d rather burn in hell than let her future mother-in-law, Jane, attend the ceremony, and her fiancé, Jay, stood behind her decision. This sent the entire family into a tailspin, with the best man resigning, the aunt disowning the groom and the wedding planner on alert to call 911 if Jane showed up. The big day has come and gone, and everyone returns to update Dr. Phil with the latest. Were they able to bury the hatchet before the wedding? Jane has gone through a rollercoaster of emotions, and Dr. Phil finds out what has her so mad at him, she even wrote him a scathing letter one week after her appearance. Has Jane done a 180-degree turn since? Has Michelle stopped her “campaign of hate mail” as Jane called it and opened up her arms to her husband’s mother? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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November 27, 2007, 3:08 pm PST

11/27 Banned from the Wedding, Part 2

I hope the husband/son (who because of his job isn't shown) is not in a position of power or trusted with the safety of others.  Dr. Phil said it best that he wouldn't want them on a jury. How can an grown man be so whipped by a Barbie Doll.  My 80 year old father has an expression for girls like Michelle.  Its like Jay is brainwashed.  He finds it almost impossible to say the word "I".  I actually watched the show twice today. He only said I when Dr. Phil corrected him.   I do feel Dr. Phil dropped the ball on this one.  Why didn't he speak with Jay alone?  Did Michelle not allow it?  Tell Michelle beauty fades...  I have a great relationship with my only (22 year old) son, but this show scared me to think there are people like Michelle out there that could do to me what Michelle did to Jay's mom.

 
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November 27, 2007, 3:08 pm PST

Time to move on

I watch this show often, and never have I ever been more infuriated...so much so that I took the time to register and write in on this message board.  I sure hope that the "bride and groom" read these boards.  It is so unbecoming to be unforgiving and just plain mean.  Good thing that America and Canada got to see this.  These two have to walk the streets now, with people talking and staring.  They have to live with themselves and I sure hope that they don't end up with regret one day.  There is nothing worse than that pain...perhaps it may be well deserved.  That bride needs to get real.  She clearly has some issues, and America got to see it first hand.  As far as the groom...he needs to get a backbone.  Such a pussy whipped man....who cannot give his mother one ounce of respect.  What kind of man is that?  I call that a mouse, and no woman finds that desirable.....Poor people...they will get what they deserve

 
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November 27, 2007, 3:09 pm PST

Dr. Phil right on the mark!

What a great show! Dr. Phil handled the guests beautifully. He let Michelle hear it!

 

After the last show, I found it ironic that the problems between the bride-to-be and the mother-in-law were related to them being TOO MUCH ALIKE. And with a future groom who didn't have a mouth (much less a spine), all of the chaos and dysfunction could have been anticipated. The son went out and picked a loud, opinionated wife much like his own mother!!!

 

Michelle acted like a spoiled, hateful child during the first show and her own mother should have been ASHAMED of her. Jane was wrong on many fronts, but Michelle was the most annoying, selfish, hateful and spoiled guest on the show! She acted like a rotten 10 year old!

 

Sadly, this newly wed couple will most likely be divorced before they make it to year #5. The way the bride acted on both shows indicates her immaturity and obnoxiousness. The mother is trying to change. The husband is finally speaking up. It is obvious that Michelle, regardless of what she SAYS, would rather have her husband all to herself. However, it will be MOM that will be there when this couple divorces.

 

The only thing that will save this marriage is if hubby keeps speaking up, Jane keeps getting counseling and Michelle grows up and stops demanding to be RIGHT. As Dr. Phil indicated, being "right" can be a very unhappy, lonely place!  If Michelle truly loves her husband and wants him happy, she should acknowledge the importance of mom being in his life. Let's face it, she gave birth to and raised the boy and that bond is much stronger than most.

 

God bless this couple (and Jane). May their marriage beat the odds and may they stop demanding to be right. As Dr. Phil stated repeatedly, they need to learn the meaning of the word "gracious."

 
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November 27, 2007, 3:09 pm PST

I hope this doesn't come out the wrong way.

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Sorry, being a victim of a MIL from Hell I don't agree that Michelle should be gracious.  Write the MIL off as a loss, and don't waste your time or energy!!   That's working for ME!!
If you are a 'victim of a MIL from Hell' then tell your spouse to grow a pair and stick up for you. There's no reason why you should have to live your life like that. If your spouse isn't willing to do that, then as far as I'm concerned, they don't have much respect for your feelings.  
 
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November 27, 2007, 3:09 pm PST

Yahoo, Michelle!

I have to offer Michelle a little support on this one.  While I agree, that she came off a little bratty  on the show, i can't judge her not having walked a mile in her shoes.

I myself have a very similar mother in law (actually, Jane seems like a day at Disney land) Mine went so far as making a nasty comment about my mother dying when she had just gotten diagnosed with Cancer.

I went the opposite route as Michelle.  I went out of my way to be nice to this woman. I tried to love her because of the love and care she gave my son growing up.  As a couple, we did a lot of really nice things for her. Her son always got all the credit and the thank yous ( i guess she didn't know that my husband fought me every step of the way, saying don't do this or that for my family.  They won't appreciate it or they don't deserve it)  I was always the horrible daughter in law and she always had the nastiest things to say to me.

Her son finally decided he wanted nothing to do with his mother after a couple of incidents that occurred with our first born son. Despite the fact that i tried to talk him out of that decision, guess who gets blamed for it both by his mom and his siblings?

I guess what i am trying to say is that sometimes mother in laws are just jealous of their daughter in laws and that we can do nothing right no matter how hard we try.  I see Jane shoot Michelle that same look of utter hatred that my mother in law shoots me and i guess i admire Michelle for not putting up with it.

I look at my wedding video or pictures or just sit and think about all the crap i've put up with and held my tongue about and all things considered, i wish i had been more like Michelle and put my foot down and demanded respect.

So in my opinion, i don't think you necessarily handled it the right way, but way to go Michelle.  I am glad that there are daughter in laws out there demanding respect for themselves.  Realize that you've got a good husband.  Not many men would support you like yours has.  And if you ever need to vent, i am sure we can trade some stories!

Jane, i truly hope you meant what you said on this show today and that you are all able to fix things.  Even in my situation, as angry as i am about the crap i have had to put up with and as angry as my husband is, I never wanted my son not to know his grandmother.  Although he has PLENTY of people on my side of the family who adore him, she is a part of him and i always wanted her to be a part of his life.  Thanks to her stubbornness, that's a situation my mother in law created with my husband on her own. And it's something i can't fix.  Whenever you get frustrated, just think about the potential grandchildren that you may be excluding yourself from whenever you decide to act badly.
 
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November 27, 2007, 3:09 pm PST

11/27 Banned from the Wedding, Part 2

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  An old saying when you are about to marry a man learn what type he is from how he respects his mother.I .
you are absolutely right---her day will come and it doesn't look like it would be much fun either...
 
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November 27, 2007, 3:09 pm PST

11/27 Banned from the Wedding, Part 2

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Whoa there ma'am. If you are equals, why is it "your house" and not our house. While I agree Michelle is likely a lunatic I also agree with dave0589, except that "quiet" is not part of the scripture and subserviant has replaced submissive, which is quite different. And speaking of women I guess being quiet would be a miracle in and of itself. If more men realized the role men were supposed to play in creation we wouldn't be where we are in society today.

As I know this will likely start a riot off the subject I will leave that subject alone, for now.........

Isn't it convenient that the Bible and the men of the church have found a way to exert power over women by saying that's the way it's meant to be? According to MEN!
 
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November 27, 2007, 3:09 pm PST

Michelle and the Mother In Law

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I think the bride could be more gracious, however, in matters dealing with the m-i-l, it is the SON's place to do so.  I married a man while living in Europe.  His mother came to visit him at that time.  To her knowledge, I was merely 'the girlfriend.'  I did not feel it was place to tell her we were getting married the week after she left.  She was furious that she 'missed the wedding.'  Firstly, not my place to tell her.  His.  Secondly, she didn't miss a 'wedding.'  We went to another country, just the two of us.  Not like she was excluded.  Nobody was included other than the two of us.  I made efforts to please this woman, nothing worked.  Gradually, I just backed off and stopped doing things like buying the exact same Mother's Day card for her that I got my own mother.  Getting her son to write one line on the card and sign it himself got nothing but three weeks of arguing between the two of us until I'd usually sign it myself and it often got there late!  HIS fault, not mine.  There are two sides to every story and between the two lies the truth!

I think the young lady Michelle is a brat and has no respect for her MIL. I am not saying that the MIL is

innocent, she added fuel to the fire also but Michelle acts like she is the goddess and you will do as I

say or I'll take my dolls and go home. What Son would bar his own Mother from the wedding? Shame on him, he is a wuss and did not stand up for his Mother at all.  I'd like to be able to see aboout 10 years

from now and see if this marriage survives. I have been a MIL for 16 years and have never had a harsh

word with my DIL. My son picked a gem and I couldn't have picked out a better one.

 

 

 
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November 27, 2007, 3:10 pm PST

I hope the MIL's posting remember their MIL's...

My MIL has been nasty from the beginning-Last xmas at his house everyone gave and recieved presents but under the tree, there was nothing for me... It was humiliating and embarassing and i just smiled and smiled...and inside i was sobbing my heart out. My husband didn't say a word until two days later,( as even I knew the timing was not right) and told her he was absolutely disgusted with her behaviour and to apologize...of course no apology forthcoming she just said oh i hadn't noticed-13 years of this kind of behaviour, people...snide remarks, biting commentary...crikey!

 

Graciousness? Yes you can be most gracious but limit your contact. Christmas is now spent together, and then we go see the in-laws. My parents love him. His dad seems to like me, and I get along well with his brothers. The only girl she ever liked was one that cheated on one of her other sons, and she keeps mentioning her, as in oh superstar loved to cook, superstar loved to garden...augh! The MIL is poison but as long as you know that and your husband knows that, you can laugh together later. For now, smile and seethe but don't let her know how much she gets to you, because she knows. Oh yes the old biddy knows...

 Poor DIL-keep your chin up and be strong. 

 
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November 27, 2007, 3:10 pm PST

11/27 Banned from the Wedding, Part 2

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Jane needs to get a damn life. Find a man. Something!! And her sister is a piece of garbage - no help at all to the discussion.

 

As for the DIL - she is pretty hateful as well. But she has created the life she wants (sans MIL). Now its Jane's turn to create a life - its pathetic.

Jane is creating a life with the help of therapy.  And it is very unfortunate that part of the life that Michells is creating has such a hateful spirit.  If that is the life she wants, THAT is pathetic.  Jane is on the right track.

If "finding a man" helps "get a damn life..." why does Michelle look so miserable?

 
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