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Topic : 06/24 Banned from the Wedding, Part 2

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(Original Air Date: 11/27/07) Dr. Phil follows up with a family torn apart when the mother was banned from her only son’s wedding. The bride-to-be, Michelle, said she’d rather burn in hell than let her future mother-in-law, Jane, attend the ceremony, and her fiancé, Jay, stood behind her decision. This sent the entire family into a tailspin, with the best man resigning, the aunt disowning the groom and the wedding planner on alert to call 911 if Jane showed up. The big day has come and gone, and everyone returns to update Dr. Phil with the latest. Were they able to bury the hatchet before the wedding? Jane has gone through a rollercoaster of emotions, and Dr. Phil finds out what has her so mad at him, she even wrote him a scathing letter one week after her appearance. Has Jane done a 180-degree turn since? Has Michelle stopped her “campaign of hate mail” as Jane called it and opened up her arms to her husband’s mother? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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November 27, 2007, 7:01 pm PST

Karma

Dr. Phil said it best when he said what comes around goes around. Someday those two are going to have children and then they will grow up and GET MARRIED, and if they are boys and they take after they're dad they will have no use for Mom anymore and she will probably have to deal with THE WIFE and boy will she have her hands full if they marry someone like MOMMY!!!!!!

 
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November 27, 2007, 7:03 pm PST

I think my mother in law wants to destoy us

I would love to get along with my mother in law but she makes it impossible!!!  I fell  in love with her son in 1994 at first I thought i t was just physical but soon realized I had fallen in love .. we had our 1st son in 1995 and our second in 2000.  It was probably more rushed than necessary but we are still together and through the good and bad of problems we have learned to lean on one another. It seems that continues to unite us . His mother could care less. Most of our problems honestly stem more from her daugters jealousy and hatred for me. My sister in law denies it but we did not get along through out our school years together (we were in the same class) and she completely hates me for a reason she created .. As I said back in high school we attended the same school and the man she married (after I was already involved with her brother and we have two children) happens to be an ex of mine.  I t would be ok but she is so not mature about... at special dinner she will give me evil glances.  She and him have two beautiful daughters and she hates me so much she will not let us have them over to our house but she always wants rights to my boys.  I think family is important but the last time they were around my son s my oldest was tossed into a 5 ft pool hitting his head.  I was the problem starter to  my motherin law and siste in law .  Go figure.   I would love to know how to deal with this ??  Any suggestions..... I would love one from dr Phi l   So I will pray for an answer thank s for listening to my soap opera problem. 
 
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November 27, 2007, 7:03 pm PST

Banned From The Wedding

I watched most of both episodes. I recently became a mother-in-law for the first time a month ago when my only son was married. I have a wonderful mother-in-law and hope I can be the same kind to my new daughter. That said, Michelle on this show really infuriated me. If she rolled her eyes one more time I would have turned the show off. Talk about utterly disrespectful! She absolutely came across as a pampered princess, used to getting her own way and cutting off anyone who dared cross her. No matter how my mother-in-law behaved, I would never and I mean never treat her in that manner. If I love my husband, it's because of the man my mother-in-law raised; she must be doing something right. Michelle needs to grow up and get over herself in a big way!!!
 
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November 27, 2007, 7:04 pm PST

Topic : 11/27 Banned from the Wedding, Part 2

It is so healing for me to read folks who have had the unfortunate experience of dealing with a mother-in-law who is not a happy person in her own life, and takes it out on her family members.  I have reacted really strongly to this subject because it does bring up much pain.  I, like others here, I'm sure, would LOVE to have a good relationship with my mother-in-law.  But, like someone said, if a relationship is more abusive than positive, you simply have to put some distance between you and them, forgiving them as you do.  My husband, too, is very much on the same page.  In fact, he's the one who's been enduring the abuse his whole life.  It is a sad reality of life, folks.  Don't blame anyone until you know the WHOLE story.
 

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November 27, 2007, 7:05 pm PST

HOW COULD HE!!

I have never wanted to jump into my TV more then that show today, I wanted to shake that BOY up, How could he let the B_____ talk to his MOTHER that way, I do not care what the Mother did. You do not let anyone talk to your Mother that way. No wonder he did not want his face shown, He might get a spanking for allow that witch to talk like that, I hope she thinks one won today, becauce at the end she is a big fat loser and that marriage will never work!! The more the mother stays away the more the son will hurt for his Mommy. That wife has him whipped for the now but just wait till she turns on him too, he will be running home with his tail between his legs.  when she has kids one day she will understand how a mother feels about her only Son and feel really bad about the way she spoke to her  But it will be to late, she will not be with this man and may not be with any man if they watched this show, Looks will not matter!!!
 

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November 27, 2007, 7:06 pm PST

11/27 Banned from the Wedding, Part 2

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I am a mother in law and I really felt very sorry for the mother of the son. The girl that he was marrying really was very "mean spirited!" I don't know how things could be fixed unless the bride would learn how to respect other peoples feelings! When the children come along, it will only get worse because they have started out on the wrong path. The mother always holds the key to the gate.

I am a mother, not mother-in-law, and I'm disgusted with both the husband and bride's behavior! Talk about "right fighting". And when did they become so innocent in this mess? What I saw from the first episode was embarrassing for both the mom-in-law and the bride but in the second episode, the ONLY change I saw came from the mom-in-law. I also agree that the son was not held accountable or questioned about what they did wrong in the last episode. Even if the mom-in-law had said some nasty things, so has the daughter-in-law yet they have YET to acknowledge their part in it.

 

And you're right also about the mother holding the key to the gate. That poor mom-in-law will be out of luck or have to grovel and play the humiliation game to see the grandkids at the rate that her son and daughter-in-law are going. Shameful!

 

Thank you, Dr. Phil, for at least pointing out that the couple were not being graceful but they weren't being accountable either.

 
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November 27, 2007, 7:07 pm PST

11/27 Banned from the Wedding, Part 2

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First, just because your son marries doesn't mean that you no longer associate with them, unless he is a sissy boy like this one. the guy needs to grow some balls. Part of being mature is respecting your parents, not cutting up flowers to show what a complete baby that you can be. i would be totally embarassed to have given birth to that dork. it is not called cutting the cord to stop keeping in contact with your kids. I guess I am just even more thankful today for my sons' girlfriends. I guess they must have been looking for a mature woman, not a spoiled tramp.
I agree...being a parent is something that never ends, although it does come in different stages throughout life.
 
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November 27, 2007, 7:08 pm PST

Mom and Son Reunion

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I understand the way the wife is acting to her mother-in-law. I am married and my mother-in-law used to live with us and she used to play the victim all the time. I knoe that the mom is not as bad as my husbands mom but she is calling her names and has all these people that are backing her up. What she needs to do is talking with her husband and figure out what is there next step. Do they want to forgive and forget? Or do they want to just not have her in their life anymore. We made that choice. She is no longer in our lives or our kids lives.

Do you really think that Michelle is going to let a reunion happen between Jane and Jay.  No Michelle has the plan to be shed of Jane forever.  This may or may not be Jay's plan but who can really tell because we were blocked from seeing his face or facial expressions and all we saw was the sadness of Jane and the hatred of Michelle.

 

You say that you decided to be shed of your MIL, because you felt that this was the best course.  In a few years you may be able to go forward and have a relationship with her or you may find that your children desire a relationship with granny that has absolutely nothing to do with you.  They will hear your side and her side and they will have to choose.  That is what adults do, they look at all the available information and then make choices that are in their best interest.

 

We got a snapshot of this situation.  We know that her side of the family (they were presumably close to Jay when he was growing up because he asked his cousin to be his best man) are saying that Jay was always very close to his mother.  They are saying that all of this changed when Michelle and he became engaged and now he has banned his mother from his wedding and his life.  They made a choice based on the information available to them and decided to not support this union. 

 

We have Michelle's mother saying that Michelle is the innocent party in this and that she was provoked to write numerous emails (even after the other party had withdrawn from the field) and that she supported her daughters behaviour toward Jane.  We then have the two parties on the stage.  In the first show the ladies each were trying to draw blood and Jay sat there impassively letting the ladies fight over him like a bone.  Jane was in full fury and swiping at the unfairness of the situation and wringing her hands in a pathetic rendition of Lady Macbeth. 

 

We were left with the impression of a desperate woman trying to win back the affection of a defected lover.   Dr. Phil suggested that she needed to let go and that a hero was needed.  So Mom agrees to go for counselling.  The first few minutes of todays episode is her greiving reaction to the last show and all the stages that her grief took.  We plot her anger, joys, acceptance and then we are looking to see how the other side has dealt with this in the last 2 months.

 

We see them smiling away at the wedding, while mom and her posse cry at home.  We see Michelle say that this has really been the best of her life save for the fact that she recieved roses from a deranged woman and now she is contemplating a restraining order.  Then to top off wacky she gets a nice poem in the mail.  Can you spell stalker.  And then Michelle says I hate her more today then I ever have.  Has the woman been sending threatening letters, going by her work, leaving dead birds on the seat of her car.  No!  Much worse, she continues to breath.  And while Jane tries to again apologize, she is slapped again and again.  When she tries to get a reaction from her son, she gets the We want you to a acknowledge everything you have said or done and to agree to a laundry list of 15 things before we can agree to even try to mend the relationship. 

 

Jane's counsellor must have been shocked by what happened on the stage.  For the last few weeks she and her client had worked towards a future.  They had agreed that you couldn't live in the past and concentrating on Dr. Phils book, they were building toward a future and asking for what you need.  Jane had obviously started on some sort of antidepressent, and was really positive when she came on this time they would see that she had worked hard and was just looking for a small opening in which to start again.   Instead as we watched she deflated before our eyes.  There was to be no forgiveness and they just wanted her to go home and they would maybe think about starting a diologue with her in a few months.

 

Where does Jane go from here.  Dr. Phil needs to keep paying for her to stay in counselling.  She needs to work toward her mental health and healing herself and forgiving herself for all that has happened.  She needs to stop responding to their emails, and phone calls and she needs to put herself first.  Jay is a grown man and he made his choice.  When he is ready to ask his mother for forgiveness then he can put himself out there like she did.  She should spend the money that she would normally spend on him on herself.  On his birthday she should treat herself to a day at the spa and a night on the town.  Forgo drinking away the pain and indulge in a journal.  Write every hateful and vindictive thing you feel in the book and then burn it.  Turn to the family she has left and let them spoil her for a while.  But above all else, do not contact them unless their is a family emergency and then let someone else do it.  You can't make war when one of the parties surrenders, but that doesn't mean you should spend your life eating crow. 

 

Good Luck Jane.  You were very gutsy to try this.  Whatever happens in the future you will always know you tried to heal this wound. 

 
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November 27, 2007, 7:08 pm PST

11/27 Banned from the Wedding, Part 2

 Watching these 2 shows just had me steaming.  Michelle is an immature, spoiled brat.  How could you treat you're husband's family like that?  And jay?  What a wus!  How can he sit there and let his wife dis resepct his mother?  I am daughter in law AND the mother of a son.  I would never dis respect my husband's family out of sheer respect for my husband if nothing else.  If my son allowed his spouse to dis respect our family, I would be SO disappointed in him. 
Made me sick that Jay sat there and allowed his mother to practially beg for forgivness so she could have her son back in her life while his snotty little bride just kept on and on! 
I can certainly see why MIL calls her a bitch....... 
 
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November 27, 2007, 7:12 pm PST

This Marriage

 I give this marriage 5 yrs.  Jay will wish he had his mommy then.
 
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