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Topic : 06/24 Banned from the Wedding, Part 2

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Created on : Tuesday, November 20, 2007, 06:04:42 pm
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(Original Air Date: 11/27/07) Dr. Phil follows up with a family torn apart when the mother was banned from her only son’s wedding. The bride-to-be, Michelle, said she’d rather burn in hell than let her future mother-in-law, Jane, attend the ceremony, and her fiancé, Jay, stood behind her decision. This sent the entire family into a tailspin, with the best man resigning, the aunt disowning the groom and the wedding planner on alert to call 911 if Jane showed up. The big day has come and gone, and everyone returns to update Dr. Phil with the latest. Were they able to bury the hatchet before the wedding? Jane has gone through a rollercoaster of emotions, and Dr. Phil finds out what has her so mad at him, she even wrote him a scathing letter one week after her appearance. Has Jane done a 180-degree turn since? Has Michelle stopped her “campaign of hate mail” as Jane called it and opened up her arms to her husband’s mother? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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April 27, 2008, 6:40 pm PDT

Did you even see the show? Not likely...

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Here are some books and one of many internet sites that may help both you and your husband.

 

/A swedish friend

 

Stalking the soul, Marie-France Hirigoyen

 

In sheep´s clothing Understanding and dealing with manipulative people, George K Simon, Jr

Emotional blackmail, Susan Forward (also see "Toxic Parents")

 

Children of the self absorbed A grownup´s guide to getting over narcissistic parents, Nina W Brown

http://groups.msn.com/NarcissismSupportGroupMoralandSpiritualStruggle/links.msnw

 

The info you are trying to provide would be of no value whatsoever to this young woman.  She was extremely and wickedly nasty to her fiance/husband's mother and no matter what the mom did, she had no interest in a relationship with her and did everything she could to successfully destroy the son's and mother's relationship, too.  Michelle was never poorly treated until the show - and although the show was a bit misleading and left out an enormous amount of information, you still should have been able to figure out that the young woman was/is the one in need of intervention, not the mother.

 

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April 27, 2008, 6:43 pm PDT

Get a clue

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I agree I believe this mother has BPD and the DIL even said that she believed this.  BPD is a mental sicknesss and needs to be treated.  How dare this DIL treat this women who raised her huband like garbage.  This Son should have made sure the mother got treatment and was diagnosed.  The MIL behaviour is due to her sickness.  I have antepartum depression when I was pregnant and it was horrible.  I knew something was wrong but could understand anything.  My husband and family treated me like garbage. It is 3 yrs since the AD and I know that it was the sickness and not me reacting.  The DIL has been horrible in not faculitating a proper relationship with a sick mother and her child.  She stepped between them and then attacked her.  What kind of relationship do you expect from your children now?  They understand it is OK to cut off a mother when they marry because you did this.

Trust me, you've diagnosed the wrong person with the pop-psych illness "BPD"!  (only in this case, it was not "borderline"!)  Read these msg boards and you might have a bit of a clue as to who the nutty one was in this threesome...
 
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April 29, 2008, 9:19 am PDT

Cant' Get Any Worse

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I am waiting for Nellie's son to bring a chick home that is just as evil as her or worse! Then she'll have a dose of her own medicine.
OMG Do you really think there is someone more evil than Michelle? That's a frightening thought !!!!LOL
 
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June 2, 2008, 11:55 am PDT

When you marry, you marry the whole family!

When you decide to get married, you are not only marrying that special someone, you are getting the whole family package!  Granted you may not agree or even have the same beliefs, but you have to find that common ground where you all love he same person and want to make his/her world complete.

 

I feel for Michelle, because I had an impossible mother-in-law too.  I did everything I could to keep the peace, and that also ment turning the other cheek.  I would not vent about my husband's mother to him, rather when I needed a outlet I would vent to a friend.  If I would've vented to my husband, he would've just gotten mad at her and put a worse strain on the relationship.  However, I felt for his sake and our children's sake that we needed to remain a family.  Sometimes I would bow out of his family events if things were too much for me to handle, but I never stopped him or the kids from going.

Four years ago, my mother-in-law passed away.  I can honestly say now that she is missed by all, including me.  I also understand her a little more now with a teenage son of my own.  The bond between mother and son is a strong one and if that bond is threatened, I can see how you would lash out and fight to protect it. 

The best advise I have for both Jane and Michelle now is to remember the golden rule...."Do to others as you would have them do to you." Putting yourself in the other person's shoes is sometimes hard to do, but no one likes to be cursed at and called names.....and my mom always taught me that 2 wrongs don't make it right!

 
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June 2, 2008, 12:19 pm PDT

I understand this epi all to well

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I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT EVERYONE FEELS SORRY FOR THE MOTHER IN LAW.  SHE IS NO ANGEL.  I MYSELF AM A DAUGHTER IN LAW TO A WOMAN WHO PRETTY MUCH IGNORES MY EXISTANCE.  SHE PLAYS FAVORITES WITH HER OTHER DAUGHTER IN LAW---OVER THAT OF HER OWN DAUGHTER.  SHE PLAYS FAVORITES WITH HER GRANDCHILDREN.  OFTEN TIMES PEOPLE POINT FINGERS AND MAKE ASSUMPTIONS THAT IT IS THE BRIDES JOB TO MAKE NICE WITH THE MOTHER OF THE GROOM........HOWEVER, IT WOULD SEEM THAT IT IS JUST AS MUCH THE MOTHERS RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE NICE WITH THE BRIDE.  AS FOR THE SON.  MAYBE HE SEES THE PICTURE FOR WHAT IT IS.  MAYBE HE IS SIDING WITH HIS BRIDE TO BE BECAUSE HE KNOWS HOW HIS MOTHER IS AND BEHAVED IN THE PAST.  AS FOR MY HUSBAND AND MYSELF WE SPEND VERY LITTLE TIME WITH HIS FAMILY.  USUALLY DURING THE HOLIDAYS ONLY.  THEN FOR AS SHORT A TIME AS WE MUST.  WE BOTH GET LITTLE ENJOYMENT OUT OF IT.  THERES ALOT OF COMPETITION BETWEEN THE OTHER DAUGHTER IN LAW AND MY HUSBANDS SISTER.  SO TAKE A LOOK AT THE MOTHER OF THE GROOM AND CUT SOME SLACK TO THE YOUNG BRIDE.

I agree i dont think everyone should think that its the brides fault, i understand where the bride to be and the son are coming from,

my boyfriend and I had a simular situation with his mother, (although this mother wasnt half as bad as my boyfriends mother) i see where these two are coming from i dont blame them at all, this women is trying to make everyone feel bad for her i dont

dont get me wrong i dont think that the bride to be should be saying the things she should be saying, grow up and just ignore the women, leave it to the son to deal with her, the son should be dealing with the mother in how he sees fit, the bride to be shouldnt be yelling and telling the mother off and what not she should grow up and take a breath before answering this women, the bride to be should defently grow up and the son should be dealing with all of this.  

 
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June 2, 2008, 12:44 pm PDT

i have a mother in law drives me crazy

I have a mother-in -law. who has to know  what her 27 year old boy is doing at all time's. She has caused so many fright in our relationship. i have left at leased 20 time's But, we always got back together. Now we are happily married after her telling me I was just another  Pieces of ass for me and nothing else. He finely told her to stay out of our business.

 
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June 2, 2008, 2:08 pm PDT

what goes around comes around.....

At the beginning of the show, they stated that Michelle had a child........I hope she doesn't get treated the way she is treating her husband's mother.  This is Jane's only child.....regardless of what has been going on between her and Michelle, Jay should try to help make things between the 2 women in his life better and not take sides.  It appears that Michelle is leading him around and not by the hand. Jane was right about one thing for sure.......How Michelle is treating Jane is how Jay should expect to be treated by her.  Sounds to me like she is a CONTROL freak.  Her way or the highway.  How sad for all involved.  The name calling by all should STOP!  Nothing will be gained by that.
 
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June 2, 2008, 2:35 pm PDT

Act like an adult

 I think they all need to step up to the plate and act like an adult.  I teach 9th graders and they have not had the experience in dealing with these kinds of situations but they would still do a better job in this case.  It makes no sense to fight and keep telling someone what they are doing wrong.  One of my favorite quotes is "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results."  This is exactly what they are all doing.  All of them need to take their own inventory and figure out what they can do to make things better.  If you read the update, Jane has been going to counseling and reading Dr. Phil's books and Jay and his wife will still have nothing to do with her. 

I am really lucky because I couldn't have married into a better family.  However, if my mother-in-law ever said anything to me, I would NEVER say anything back.  That's how a feud starts.  I would have my husband talk to her but I would still do everything in my power to make sure my husband still had a relationship with her.  I would also never deny my children their grandparents.  That is such a shame.  My cousin has this problem with his mother and his wife won't have anything to do with her.  She is still plesant to her when she has to be in the room with her and never says anything back to the stupid things my aunt says to her.  She also doesn't deny her daughters their grandmother.  She would be just punishing her daughters if she did.
 
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June 2, 2008, 2:40 pm PDT

DIL is cruel and immature

What caught me about this situation is that the  DIL said that Jay's mother had an inappropriate relationship with him.  How petty and immature of her.  When I heard that I thought I was back in high school.  I would like to see a mother who doesn't want to hug her son and talk to her son and be a part of his life, especially if he is her only child.  Have Jay tell her that he loves her but she needs to back off a little bit but not that that is an inappropriate relationship.  Get a life and stop concentrating on the petty stuff.
 
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June 2, 2008, 2:53 pm PDT

OMG..Just read update on this

I find this incredible!! Jane has gone to counseling. Great for her!!
What about Michelle?? She does nothing but bitch. Nothing Jane does will ever be enough. It never has been for me with my son either.
God, I'm so sorry for Jane!!!!!
 
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