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Topic : 06/24 Banned from the Wedding, Part 2

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(Original Air Date: 11/27/07) Dr. Phil follows up with a family torn apart when the mother was banned from her only son’s wedding. The bride-to-be, Michelle, said she’d rather burn in hell than let her future mother-in-law, Jane, attend the ceremony, and her fiancé, Jay, stood behind her decision. This sent the entire family into a tailspin, with the best man resigning, the aunt disowning the groom and the wedding planner on alert to call 911 if Jane showed up. The big day has come and gone, and everyone returns to update Dr. Phil with the latest. Were they able to bury the hatchet before the wedding? Jane has gone through a rollercoaster of emotions, and Dr. Phil finds out what has her so mad at him, she even wrote him a scathing letter one week after her appearance. Has Jane done a 180-degree turn since? Has Michelle stopped her “campaign of hate mail” as Jane called it and opened up her arms to her husband’s mother? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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June 24, 2008, 2:09 pm PDT

Forgiveness

I think all parties on this show need to ask forgiveness as well as forgive.  Forgiveness lets us out  of our own prison. However, I couldn't dream of talking to my mother-in-law in such a manner or her speaking to me in such manner.  I was truly sadden while watching this show.  Whatever happened to respecting our elders? I really pray that this family wounds are healed.  True repentance and forgiveness is crucial for any relationship to be healed. We all need to remember that we do reap what we sow and reaping is much harder than sowing - when the sowing has been so evil.

 

Forgivened 

 

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June 24, 2008, 2:10 pm PDT

06/24 Banned from the Wedding, Part 2

 I just finished watching todays show and I'm angrier that I was after the first one.  How dare Jay allow his spoiled wife control him like this.  As far as I'm concerned he's not a man!!  Everyone makes mistakes and maybe his mom made some but allowing his wife to talk to her like she does is despicable!!  As hard as it may be, I think the mom should step back.  I'm totally on her side but even if her daughter in law accepts her apology she shouldn't trust her at all.  Jay's mom would probably feel like she has to walk on egg shells all the time for fear she may so something else to set the "spoiled witch" off.  Hopefully Jay will realize eventually what his wife has done to him and his mother.  She wants him all to herself and wants his mom out of the picture.  Shame on him if he lets the "spoiled child" he calls his wife get away with it.

Grow up Jay and stand your ground.  You only have one mom.  "Beauty is fleeting, stupid is forever"!!!  That describes your bride.
 
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June 24, 2008, 2:12 pm PDT

Oh my gosh

Jane should run away from these two. All they want is for her to admit that she has been totally wrong and that they are totally right.  Jay needs to grow some balls and tell his wife that he's having a relationship with his mother whether she does or not.  It is obvious that Jane is and has been working very hard to get a better perspective on her past behavior and her future behavior.  The kids are doing no work what so ever and accept no responsiblity for this situation what so ever.  I cannot understand why Dr Phil did not keep asking the kids what they are doing to fix the current situation - are they working with a therapist NO because they refuse to accept that they have any reponsiblity for the past situation - they think it's all Jane's fault. Until they grow up some she should walk away - the daughter in law especially is unwilling to give an inch without a total mia culpa from Jane and I do not believe she owes them that.  The young couple should be ashamed of themselves for not acknowledging  the hard work Jane is doing, for not stepping up to the plate themselves.  Her mother needs to stay out of this.  I agree with Jane that the important thing is not to point fingers and assign blame for the past but to figure out strategies to move forward into the future.  Unless the couple decides to let the healing take place it will not happen. Jane - at some point you are going to have to pull back as hard as that may be because you cannot do all the work in this relationship.  I can only hope that the kids mature enough to accept their own responsbility, put away the past and agree to move forward.  I lost almost 20 years with my own family out of my own immature stubborness thinking I was so right and they were all so wrong.  Luckily we all agreed to put the past away and move forward.  I hope this same sort of healing for this family.
 
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June 24, 2008, 2:12 pm PDT

06/24 Banned from the Wedding, Part 2

She will always be his mother - the bride may not always be his wife.  If his mother dies tomorrow and he does not make up - he will regret it for the rest of his life.    The bride cannot break that family bond.

The son acts like a wimp-he needs to man up.  The bride sat there glaring at the mother-in-law the entire show-she is the problem!!!!!  The bride is controlling the guy with sex and he cannot see anything else-lets tell the truth here.  

Why should the guy have to decide between his wife or his mother?  He should not - there is enough love for all.     The bride does not want the mother-in-law in their lives, she was closed off to Dr. Phil's comments, she sat with arms crossed.  It was just like Dr Phil said,  I won so what - this was the attitude.  The body language of the bride told the whole story.

 

 
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June 24, 2008, 2:13 pm PDT

Banned from Wedding

Seeing how none of them get along, then why continue to talk bad to one another. Someone has to be an adult in this situation. They need to learn how to share, show respect, and most of all stop the childish behavior. The mother should wish her son well, because we all know as being a mom that no one can take care of their son better then mom. The mother should just sit back, respect their wishes, and we as parents know that if you do not react to bad behavior eventually it will stop. The mother and daughter are acting like children, and I think that it is funny. It is funny to see these adults act like children. Personally, if I was in a situation like that I would just bite my tongue, listen, and show respect. I have a mother inlaw she does not call, only when they need us to do something, and did not call her son on is birthday. Maybe the daughter inlaw just wants the attention, and they say how you treat people is how you get treated. This is my thoughts on the situation.
 
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June 24, 2008, 2:14 pm PDT

Get off the Bride's Case

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Here, here The mother-in-law is the main problem ! Quit dmping on he bride ! She is just responding tothe M-I-L. 

I have a M-I-L just like hers.  It's amazing how similar.  We went through family counseling and she apologized AGAIN but never owned up to what she had done. She played the victim. She had yetto change her ways.  She NEVER would own up to the things she had said or done.  She would say and do things to me when my husband wasn't around in hopes of breaking us apart. She made it look like all of our differences were my fault until my husband caught her in the act of telling me mean and vindictive stuff when she didn't know he was listening.  He was shocked because he never believed me when I told him the things she would do or say because he thought his mother wasn't capable of such horrible acts. She has since tried unsuccessfully to have my children taken away from me because she can't stand the fact that my husband, (her only son) won't take her side. 

 

I feel very bad for the bride and groom because her M-I-L seems to be saying only what she has to say to make herself feel better.  I bet after the show she'll go back to her old ways. Mine did.

 
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June 24, 2008, 2:15 pm PDT

I couldnt agree more

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I have never wriiten my opinion before, but this couple infuriates me!!! That "bride" is the  most spoiled, ignorant, selfish little B---- that I have ever seen! And  the son, unbelievable. I would love to reach through the TV and slap both of them. The girl is the jealous one. She thinks if the son has anyone in his life she will no longer have complete conntrol over him as she does now. I commend the Mom for keeping as cool as she has. She cannot get anywhere with them NO Matter what she says or does. I don't give this marriage any time at all if the son EVER wises up. How long can he look at snotty expression and listen to her phony WHINEY voice, imagine HER with children! Dr. Phil was wrong too. He has fed into their ridiculous accusations and attitudes. I hope the Mom finds the strength to carry on her life without her child. It is very, very sad.
This too was my first time on the boards but I had to vent on this. It is almost like the bride feels like she can't share her husband at all. And the brides mother, if this was my daughter I would have said to her "do you see yourself? YOU look rediculous and sound just as bad!" I feel sorry for the mother and the son. Hopefully he wakes up soon and puts her in her place or divorces her controlling butt.
 
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June 24, 2008, 2:15 pm PDT

06/24 Banned from the Wedding, Part 2

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This girl looks disturbingly similar to Nellie Olsen.

lmao.......

 
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June 24, 2008, 2:15 pm PDT

06/24 Banned from the Wedding, Part 2

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I feel it's time for the bride to grow up and consider her husband's feelings.  She will eventually regret the way she is treating his mother and not allowing her to have a relationship with them.  The mother is just as wrong at what she has been doing and it's time she cut the apron strings and allow her son to live his own life.  If both the bride and the mother would do these things they could have a wonderful relationship of enjoying each other.  I dread to think of what it will be like if and when children are brought into this union.
That man better hope that his mother forgives him and is around to pick up the pieces when his wife get tired of manipulating her because when his wife sees that mom is not playing the game anymore, she will move on to bigger things, like divorce. Clearly, it's all about winning to her and showing somebody. If he was any kind of a man, he would have stepped up a long time ago and got control of the situation. If the shoe was on the other foot the wedding would have been cancelled until he made up with her mom.If the bride is this hateful now, just think about how bad she will be when they have something to fight over like custody of children and household goods.
 
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June 24, 2008, 2:16 pm PDT

Agreed

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She will always be his mother - the bride may not always be his wife.  If his mother dies tomorrow and he does not make up - he will regret it for the rest of his life.    The bride cannot break that family bond.

The son acts like a wimp-he needs to man up.  The bride sat there glaring at the mother-in-law the entire show-she is the problem!!!!!  The bride is controlling the guy with sex and he cannot see anything else-lets tell the truth here.  

Why should the guy have to decide between his wife or his mother?  He should not - there is enough love for all.     The bride does not want the mother-in-law in their lives, she was closed off to Dr. Phil's comments, she sat with arms crossed.  It was just like Dr Phil said,  I won so what - this was the attitude.  The body language of the bride told the whole story.

 

i think the bride is totally unforgiving and I feel sorry for her.  She obviously does not want Jay to have a relationshhip with his Mom.  Watch out Jay!
 
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