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Churches and religious organization maintain a tax free status....in soon as they start pushing political candidates and trying to influence a national agenda...they cross the line. Right now, conservative Christians are a huge voting block that want the candidates they endorse or rally their congregants to vote for to be beholden o their religious beliefs. I have a huge problem with that...they are not then a church but a political lobby.

Then what do you say about those who contend that the "morning after pill" (and, for that matter, birth control pills themselves) cause abortions b/c (on occasion) what it does is prevent implantation of the fertilized egg?

 

Merely curious.

 

Prof

Oh yea.  I see this kind of thing a lot.  It's mind blowing.  The parents act more like children then the children.....they get so caught up in the drama it is unbelievable.  They go at each other if 5th graders have a fight.  The girls become friends the next day and the parents plot against each other for months.  OMG !!  They plan outlandish parties to purposely leave the others out but will invite everyone else in the classroom.  One lady had a birthday party that was unbelievable...... complete with chimps and clowns and ponies.  The other Mama didn't behave any better as she "crashed" the party......I don't remember all the details but everybody was talking about it.

 

We call it 'Baby Mama Drama".  LOL....I know the phrase was invented for something different.  But it seems to fit,..............it's very upsetting.

I hope that bully mother gets the book thrown at her -- dunno what sort of criminal charges they could throw at her that would stick, though. It's amazing how the original bully, once confronted, just  "wants an end put to all this." Sure you do, b*tch, when the shoe is on the other foot!

 

Amen on the daughter -- bully parents raise bully children -- unless Mama does get the book thrown at her & daughter learns from the experience.

 

Prof

I am a firm believer in birth control and I had my doubts about the morning after pill. I don't know the morning after pill just does not sound like an abortion to me.

 

I do not think that birth control is the same as an abortion. I also believe in condoms and other contraceptives. I honestly think that the people who do not belive in contraceptives of any kind and even think that male masterbation is an abortion are seriously misguided. Like the family that has 16 children. I think that now that the world is over populated that we no longer have to go forth and multiply like they did back in Jesus's time. If a person wants kids thats fine as long as they can take care of them and I am not just meaning finacially. I am more meaning being their emotionally for each child.

 

Some may find this offensive but I'm sorry it was I believe and this is not a Christian thing either it is what I believe.

I think that if taking birth control and or using the morning after pill will prevent women from having an abortion 2 month later then go for it.

 

It will also keep someone from having an unwanted baby. That could possibly maybe end up being physically abused, or thrown in a dumpster.

BUT I am not talking about PUSHING a candidate, I am talking about just speaking.  Not endorsing, just conversation. 

I can remember when I was going to church, and we had Wednesday night bible study, it was a small group.  I don't see the harm in people talking about such, as long as it is conversation, debate, if you will.  But the pastor didn't even want to go there for "fear" (for lack of a better term) of repercussions.  I guess I understand the point, Because there would be those who would "tell" their congregation how to vote, but I guess I just have a problem with government in general.  I don't want or need big brother in every facet of my life. 

That is a good question.  One I have pondered.  I was always under the impression that the "morning after pill" was basically equivalent to an abortion.  In fact, I work in a hospital pharmacy and I have refused to take the "morning after pill" down to the ER.  I said I couldn't do it because I did not want to in any way shape or form be involved in the death of a baby. 

There is actually 2 different "after" pills.  There is the "morning after pill" (not available in this country legally) and "emergency contraception."  My pharmacist explained it this way:

 

The morning after pill will expell an embryo, will abort the baby.

 

The emergency contraception will prevent the fertilized egg from implanting in the uterine wall.  And it may be taken up to 3 days later.  They are actually birth control pills, just taken in a larger dose.

 

Don't know if this helps, but man it has raised some questions for me.  I have been on B.C.P. for 19 years.  And I am now in a serious dilemma.  To me it would seem that stopping a fertilized egg from implanting may be the same as killing it.  Oh God. Oh God.  Oh boy, I need to do some more research on this, if I have to live with the thought that I may have unknowingly  killed and unborn baby of mine...OH GOD

Yes, there ARE 2 different "after" pills, but I think you are confusing the 2 (and your pharmacist's explanation). Please re-read your 1st 2 paragraphs -- if the "morning after pill" were not available in this country, how could you be in a position to refuse to take it to the ER?.

 

In the USA. "Emergency contraception" and the "morning after pill" are generally used interchangeably. The mega-dose of hormones is, if administered within 72 h of unprotected intercourse, supposed to prevent implantation of a fertilized egg.

 

The French "abortion pill," RU-486, is a different drug & subject altogether. Despite study after study attesting to its safety when used correctly, it is still unavailable in this country legally, as far as I am aware.  

 

Prof

 

Hey I FOUND it!!!

 

Woot hooo!   : )

 

I'm taking a break (I'm a very good boss to myself...LOL)  and will read back a bit on here....

 

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Fredi