Quote From: baeiouyI have been looking at stats from Canada and it is scary that people actually want it. They always say universal health care is wonderful as long as you arent sick.
I am sure if we get it, there would be tons of bars on things, what we can and can not eat etc.
Here are a few stats that I have found from the Canada Health Care compared to the US.
The surival rate for Breast Cancer in Canada is 30% in the US it is 70%.
The surival rate of Prosate Cancer in Canada is 15% in the US is 50%.
The average wait to get an MRI is about 6 months to a year in Canada in the US it is days.
The average wait to get any type of surgery dealing with replacements, such as hip, knee etc you are looking at 18 months to 2 years in Canada in the US 3 months to 6 months.
Not to mention that Canada has agreements with Bording states that they can fly in and take people to the hospital. The Seattle hospitals are looking at 60-100 women a month flying in from Vancouver because they can not take care of them. Not to mention that in Canada the have really no doctors from the country anymore, they actually have to be imported.
Scary if you ask me.
Hi is it Beverly?
I'm just thinking that as your username is B....*vowel*.....
Well, I'm not sure where you got you stats, but speaking as a Can*eh*dian I will tell you that although Universal Health Care is not perfect....it really isn't as scary as you may believe.
The wait times have been reduced significantly. As far as requiring certain tests and or surgery's it basically works up here like a triage situation. Those most in dire need go directly to the front of the line so to speak.
I must say, it's a huge relief knowing that no matter what, no matter how much money I've got in the bank, or what sort of added insurance I don't have to worry about anyone in my household creating a financial burden if medical treatment is required.
Big brow wipe....LOL!
Here's a few stat's from Wikipedia....
I have to take off for the afternoon yet will be back either later this evening or tomorrow and answer any Q's anyone may have.
The Canadian health care system is often compared to the US system. The US system spends the most in the world per capita, and was ranked 37th in the world by the World Health Organization in 2000, while Canada's health system was ranked 30th. The WHO ranking has been criticized by some for its choice of ranking criteria and statistical methods, and the WHO is currently revising its methodology and withholding new rankings until the issues are addressed.[47][48]
Canada spent approximately 9.8% of GDP on health care in 2005, almost one percentage point higher than the average of 9.0% in OECD countries.[28] According to the Canadian Institute for Health Information, spending is expected to reach $160 billion, or 10.6% of GDP, in 2007.[49] This translates to $4,867 per person.
Most health statistics in Canada are at or above the G7 average.[50] Direct comparisons of health statistics across nations is complex. The OECD collects comparative statistics, and has published brief country profiles.[51]
Country
Life expectancy
Infant mortality rate
Physicians per 1000 people
Nurses per 1000 people
Per capita expenditure on health (USD)
Healthcare costs as a percent of GDP
% of government revenue spent on health
% of health costs paid by government
Australia
80.5
5.0
2.47
9.71
2,519
9.5
17.7
67.5
Canada
80.5
5.0
2.14
9.95
2,669
9.9
16.7
69.9
France
79.5
4.0
3.37
7.24
2,981
10.1
14.2
76.3
Germany
80.0
4.0
3.37
9.72
3,204
11.1
17.6
78.2
Japan
82.5
3.0
1.98
7.79
2,662
7.9
16.8
81.0
Sweden
80.5
3.0
3.28
10.24
3,149
9.4
13.6
85.2
UK
79.5
5.0
2.30
12.12
2,428
8.0
15.8
85.7
US
77.5
6.0
2.56
9.37
5,711
15.2
18.5
44.6
If you ask me, that life expectancy differential is rather *scary*.
UHC......like I said isn't so terrible, sure there are aspects that need to be addressed, yet it's a wonderful feeling knowing that we won't have to mortgage our home in order to provide health care for anyone in the family. : )
Have a great day all,
<3
Fredi