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Topic : 12/03 Shocking Teen Trends

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Created on : Friday, November 30, 2007, 01:39:10 pm
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It’s no surprise that teens engage in reckless activities, but kids today are doing much more than sneaking a drink of alcohol. The newest trends can be deadly for your kids -- from street racing to car surfing. Dominic, 18, is obsessed with illegal street racing, and his friend, Justin, boasts that he’s driven 147 mph on the highway! Dominic’s mother, Susan, fears for his safety, but doesn’t know how to control him. Can Dr. Phil get the boys to put on the brakes? Then, 17-year-old Trais was street racing when he accidentally killed a wheelchair-bound mother of two in front of her children. Don’t miss his strong message for Dominic and Justin. And, meet a mom who worries that her 13-year-old daughter spends more time in a virtual online world than in the real one. Can Dr. Phil help the girl return to reality? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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December 11, 2007, 1:23 pm PST

Shocking teen trends-The girl with the computer

Okay I don't think most parents understand how much control they actually have over there children. But can you really blame them, look at the world we live in, we tell children they don't have to listen to there parents. They can do as they please. OH NOT IN MY HOUSE. I was watching a part of The View a couple of weeks ago when they had Bill O'Reilly on the show. And one woman said "But you cant make your child go to chruch" Bill looked at her and said "Oh yes you can, you can make them go, you just cant make them believe". Its so true, you can make your children do alot of stuff, but you just cant and I don't want to control there thinking. Dont we make our children go to school? Dont we make our children do there homework? Make them do there chores? Make them take showers/baths everyday? Then why not take there computer away, make them GET OFF OF IT. If I walked into find my very young daughter on the computer all night, and it wasn't the first time, she would find the computer in the basement packed up. I would go as far as take all the computers out of the home, get myself a personal notebook, and make sure she didn't have access to it unless for homework, which she would have to do in front of me. I think the next generation of parents with teenagers, will be better at handling the internet and there teens. We grow up with the internet and we know what the problems are with it. My sister did have internet as a child or even a teen. He first time on the internet was when she was like in her mid 20's in fact that is when she got her first computer. Now she has a pre-teen and I know she is going to be clueless with what to stay away from. I however will  not be clueless when it when to this. 
 
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December 11, 2007, 1:46 pm PST

12/03 Shocking Teen Trends

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Well its not like the mother went out and paid for a 2nd, car, the son paid for it out of his pocket and he is 18 years old, he doesn't need parent permission for anything. I would think if she just wanted to not fight with her son, that she would then do something to his cars, to make them stop running.
 Dominic didn't pay out of his pocket. He cashed in a savings bond. And, as for being 18-years-old and not needing parental permission, that only applies if he's out their house, living on his own. But, since he's still under her roof, his mother has every right to set boundaries on his behavior.
 
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December 11, 2007, 3:13 pm PST

Was one of those teenagers

  At 18 I had a acurca integra LS V-tec with alot of stuff changed on it. I never raced from light to light or any where some one not in the races could have gotten hurt, i respect people to much for that! I did "street race" though, we would go to a back road, make sure no traffic came in or out, if anything was on the street it was a closed down warehouse, not housing! One night when I was 19, cops came and gave us all tickets for wathcing racing and we had to go to court.

  I always believed I wasn't putting anyone in danger, since we weren't on a road with people. Yet we all stood there next to the cars before take off. That night not only was I there, racing with my dog in the car, I sat next to the road where cars could have lost control and my dog or I could have been killed. I thought kids might have control of their cars but have learned other wise through the years. I grew up on the track and was an idiot for leaving the track!

  I decided now that i am a mother, the track is where I belong, not some abanded road! I think having a child of my own at 21 taught me that! If a car lost control on the track I wouldn't get hurt, so I'm staying there.

 
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December 11, 2007, 4:39 pm PST

teens racing

this is nothing new. as long as teens (and a number of adults) have had access to something fast on the streets they have taken full advantage of it. before i was born there was a little movie called smokey and the bandit. before that bullit. before that, the beach boys were singing songs about their little gto that could really fly. i bet when a horse and buggy were the main means of transportation there were some kids (and adults) ready to see just who had the fastest horse and most greased up wheels to haul that junk in the trunk. tragedy has often followed these fast cars, yet tragedy happens all around us daily. of course it can be somewhat curbed and the risks those boys were taking were very dangerous and there should be reprimands, but in my opinion, the approach was all wrong by dr. phil. fear tactics generally dont work with a rebellious mind-set and though i doubt those boys were true rebels, they looked like the info went in one ear and out of the other. "say yes and be a good boy and you can go". the monitoring chip was a good idea, but i think that the boy will be getting away with speeding if he chooses to do so and frankly, by his look and demeanor, he probably will. as tech savvy as the younger generations get, i'm sure he could even find a way to by-pass or adjust the settings or possibly even dis-connect the thing.

i dont know of anything that could have possibly been done in order to stop that dangerous racing behavior since it seems almost an archetype to be young and have a fast car, smoking tires into the sunset while the crowd cheers and the person eating your dust jeers. scare tactics for teens driving fast just did not seem like it did anything more on that show than to make a few mothers concerned and for those with that "speed" mentality to just speed off unchanged.

 

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December 11, 2007, 7:19 pm PST

Teen Trend

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 Dominic didn't pay out of his pocket. He cashed in a savings bond. And, as for being 18-years-old and not needing parental permission, that only applies if he's out their house, living on his own. But, since he's still under her roof, his mother has every right to set boundaries on his behavior.

Okay I don't think I made myself clear. It was his bonds, yes they were given to him by his parents. But he can cash them in, buy a car, and his parents never even have to know. That is what I mean, by he doesn't need there permission. Yes he still lives with them, but that doesn't mean they have legal rights over him. Its good that he was open about what was going on, and even showing his parents the speeding tickets (which i'm guessing he either need them to pay for it, or he needed to show them it cause he is on there insurance). I know alot of 18 years old that go on there parents insurance cause its cheaper for them. And really just cause he is living with them, doesn't mean they have rights to tell him what to do. I'm currently staying at my parents home, with my husband and son, should they have a right to tell me what to do more then (we clean this way, and those get put there, and normal household rules). I of course don't go street racing, so its not like I'm doing something dangerous, which would cause my parents to freak out at any age I was and it wouldn't matter if I was living with them or not.

 

But my point was, you cant blame the mother totally for this, he has a right to cash in his bonds, and buy whatever kind of car, its good that she is trying to stop him, but she cant keep him from doing it, I don't think anyone realized that, they said she would be at fault. How he is 18 you cant lock a 18 year old in your house thats called False Imprisonment, and its illegal.

 
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December 12, 2007, 7:31 pm PST

It's not just teens racing that kills

My sister was killed by a young man while she was on her way to work and sitting at a red light. It was on my 26th Wedding Anniversary. The State of Maryland has the weakest driving laws of any States around us. Because he was not drinking or on drugs he was only charged with reckless driving which only carries about a 3,000.00 fine. My family was never able to face him in court to see if he had any remorse what so ever. If these kids only knew what it does to the family left behind. There is always a empty space in your life She was my best friend as well as shared in the Care of my youngest sister who is Handicapp. I'm now left alone to have to deal with the feelings. I don't feel Jail is the answer for these people but I do feel that having to work with support groups and see first hand how they effect the people that are left behind. Our lives will never be the same again.
 
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December 13, 2007, 8:48 am PST

12/03 Shocking Teen Trends

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Okay I don't think I made myself clear. It was his bonds, yes they were given to him by his parents. But he can cash them in, buy a car, and his parents never even have to know. That is what I mean, by he doesn't need there permission. Yes he still lives with them, but that doesn't mean they have legal rights over him. Its good that he was open about what was going on, and even showing his parents the speeding tickets (which i'm guessing he either need them to pay for it, or he needed to show them it cause he is on there insurance). I know alot of 18 years old that go on there parents insurance cause its cheaper for them. And really just cause he is living with them, doesn't mean they have rights to tell him what to do. I'm currently staying at my parents home, with my husband and son, should they have a right to tell me what to do more then (we clean this way, and those get put there, and normal household rules). I of course don't go street racing, so its not like I'm doing something dangerous, which would cause my parents to freak out at any age I was and it wouldn't matter if I was living with them or not.

 

But my point was, you cant blame the mother totally for this, he has a right to cash in his bonds, and buy whatever kind of car, its good that she is trying to stop him, but she cant keep him from doing it, I don't think anyone realized that, they said she would be at fault. How he is 18 you cant lock a 18 year old in your house thats called False Imprisonment, and its illegal.

You missed a lot of people's points, including Dr Phil's. You can't lock an 18-year-old in the house. But, you sure as hell can kick him out.
 

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December 13, 2007, 12:33 pm PST

teen trends

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You missed a lot of people's points, including Dr Phil's. You can't lock an 18-year-old in the house. But, you sure as hell can kick him out.

Where did dr phil ever say that "kick him out". Maybe I just missed that, not sure how that would of solved the problem. But i'm happy Dr Phil was able to change the young mans mind, I hope it stayed changed. But what would solve kicking him out, if let say this didn't change his mind? You think that would stop someone doing something reckless? You have to open there eyes to the dangers of it, not just cut them loose as if they are not important to care for. As a parent you just doesn't end when they turn 18, you just have to get more creative in being a parent , cause grounding will not work on a 18 year old, and niether will just simply taking the car away.

 

I personally would have made an appointment with the local police department and have them show my son of 18 year olds, the real ugly dangers of street racing, i'm sure they have a lot of stuff they can show you. And they never mind helping families out in stopping these behaviors.

 

Anyways didn't you say parents have control over there children after they turn 18 and while still living in the house, now your saying you don't have that control mmmm...

 
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December 13, 2007, 6:46 pm PST

It's all over the world

I live in Australia and it happens here too. Just last week 4, 17 to 19 years boys were killed in a car accident and the police found they must have been travelling over 160km/h (100mph) how & why it happened, they say the car was racing their friends car which was driving next to them at the time.

 

They see it as a entertaining, exzilerating and macho and that "drove" them to start racing. That is what makes all people raceon the street, not just young adults (18 year olds). Can it be stopped maybe, can it be controlled maybe not. But the only way to stop it continuing into the next generating is by showing the next generation that "speed kills" and racing is no different

 
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December 18, 2007, 11:53 am PST

12/03 Shocking Teen Trends

Quote From: tiffany_2007

Where did dr phil ever say that "kick him out". Maybe I just missed that, not sure how that would of solved the problem. But i'm happy Dr Phil was able to change the young mans mind, I hope it stayed changed. But what would solve kicking him out, if let say this didn't change his mind? You think that would stop someone doing something reckless? You have to open there eyes to the dangers of it, not just cut them loose as if they are not important to care for. As a parent you just doesn't end when they turn 18, you just have to get more creative in being a parent , cause grounding will not work on a 18 year old, and niether will just simply taking the car away.

 

I personally would have made an appointment with the local police department and have them show my son of 18 year olds, the real ugly dangers of street racing, i'm sure they have a lot of stuff they can show you. And they never mind helping families out in stopping these behaviors.

 

Anyways didn't you say parents have control over there children after they turn 18 and while still living in the house, now your saying you don't have that control mmmm...

 You're reading things into my posts that were never there. I never said anything about having, or not having, control over anyone. But, whether a child is under, or over 18, parents still have some control over what happens in their house. When it's in their name and they're paying for it. Living with parents, after turning 18, is a privilege.
 
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